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Post by rooattendee07 on May 9, 2007 22:31:49 GMT -5
As the lot of you may know, there's controversy as to whether or not the fans of a particular band would dimmer the bonnaroo experience. Namely, The Police and Tool.
There's already been enough talk as to whether or not tool fans would pose a threat to the experience. I, for one am a tool fan and some believe that the stereotypical tool fan would create a blatant, unwarming enviroment. The key word here is stereotypical. You cannot stereotype tool fans for I believe they are one of the most diverse communities. We are not your anger provoking meatheads.
As for The Police, people believe they will attract close-minded old men stumbling around in walkers and wheelchairs with the select few hitting stoners over the head with their cane cracking the ol' "When i was your age..." It's no doubt that the Police may attract an older crowd. But I'm not picturing old guys hooked up to an oxygen tank being wheeled around by an RN. This is just another stereotype. Now I'm no avid Police fan, but I do believe The Police hit their peak and became popluar in the early 80's. So this would mean the average fan would be more of a middle aged guy. And who's to say some of these "older" guys don't know how to have a good time or appreciate the music in all it's entirety. I've had some good times hanging around with older guys and some of them are probably the coolest guys you'll ever meet.
So as to whether or not any type of fan would ruin the bonnaroo experience, is ridiculous. The only thing that could ruin it is you. You just have to have the right attitude. I have no doubt in my mind this will be one of the best experiences of my life.
I have no worries because of this logic and hopefully this isnt taken the wrong way. Im not even quite sure what stereotypical means in this case and I use the word lightly here. The "stereotypical" fans are the ones that will pay $200 to see the police and $55 to see Tool in an arena setting. Not saying that those people wont be at Roo or some people from Bonnaroo wouldnt pay to see them in an arena either. Even is there are a few in attendance, everyone knows that when you step on that farm or are surrounded by 60,000 other people at a show you realize its all about the music and age/background/race/status suddenly disappears. I mean we have electronic acts and there isnt a discussion of an overload of ravers and hip hop acts, but we dont worry about thugs. I think roo is the one place stereotypes are left at the main gates. How much fun can a mosh pit be if there are 2 of you in it? Tool is not a band that envokes pits if thats what we're worried about.
Post by rooattendee07 on May 9, 2007 22:51:40 GMT -5
ooh i'm not worried. i've had my fair share of moshing after attending a few lamb of god concerts so if there was any, it wouldn't really be an issue for me. i agree with you when you say everything gets left at the gates. once your inisde roo, everyone is family.
Speaking as one of your 'middle aged guys', I was going to be there anyway (As I was in '05 and at Coachella in '04 and '06) and I think we're underestimated. Sure some have mellowed out and rolled over to American Idol listening, but those won't be the ones at Roo. If someone really is there only because of the Police, they're more likely to be excited to be there - they've left the kids at home, taken a few days off work and thrown down a wad of cash. Believe it or not, we had hippies and frat boys back in the 70s, the sight of a few wooks or some drunken jocks might be more familiar to us than you think.
As for Tool, when they played Coachella last year, the Tool fans certainly tried to take over the message boards and there were a lot of them at the event (judging by the T-shirts). But what I noticed most was that they seemed to be bored and unadventurous. I stood by four guys in Tool shirts during the Sigur Ros set and they just talked through the whole thing, not even taking time to try and listen. However, as has been said before on these boards, Coachella is an easy drive from LA, you've got to go out of your way to get to Roo, so I'd expect a crowd more willing to enjoy the whole weekend.
"As for The Police, people believe they will attract close-minded old men stumbling around in walkers and wheelchairs with the select few hitting stoners over the head with their cane cracking the ol' "When i was your age..." It's no doubt that the Police may attract an older crowd. But I'm not picturing old guys hooked up to an oxygen tank being wheeled around by an RN." I think if someone actually believes this they have much bigger problems in life. To be honest, i know nothing about Tool or their fans, and i came to the conclusion pretty quick that it was doubtful they would ruin my good time. What ccrgmac mentioned would bother the hell out of me, especially at a show like Sigur Ros, but hopefully the inaccesibility of Roo would make that less likely, and if not then i can just move. I feel like people said this about Dave Matthews back in '04 and '05 and that never really panned out.
one of my friends brought upa good point. tool is playing the first real day of the festival. assuming there will be some meathead tool fans there, what are those guys going to do the rest of the festival? they are going to get drunk and start some problems. but hopefully it won't be too much that it ruins the vibes for lots of people. as for the police fans, they won't be a problem at all.
I wasn't going to add to this topic because I think it's just silly.
I AM a HUGE Tool fan. I LOVE the Police. Lets just say I can wait to be a part of this party experance. I don't believe in negative experances. I've seen my fair share. I went to Eden fest 07 and woodstock 99. I was never apart of that either. I think stupid people are everwhere. So just to say that a tool fan will ruin the party is the same as a WSP fan.
We could only hope that people don't get stupid becuause it always ruins it for the future.
Those wonderful people that put on the party every year enjoy to continue it. . I'm sure they are wonderful hosts.
This is my first Bonnaroo. I hope it's not my last. I'm really excited.
Please don't be hard on tool fans. We are people too.
You have nothing to worry about the're a good rock band. If you check them out from a distance. I bet you will be impressed. They are really talented. (ps The band HATES!! moshers. I've been to their show. They discuraged it big time when I seen it last.)
Post by oleander124 on May 10, 2007 10:59:29 GMT -5
I just gotta say that saying any one band's fans will ruin a festival is pure crap. Every individual is different, and to say that they will ruin anything because they are a fan is close-minded and stupid, IMO.
The majority of the people coming to this know what they're getting themselves into...which is 4 days of camping in extreme temps with 80,000 other people. I doubt anybody is going to Bonnaroo just to see one band. I wouldn't.
As for the police, my boyfriend is 36 years old (turning 37 during the festie) and he love the police! Most of the people who like them aren't "old" (when did 50 become old?) and are there to have a good time....just like me and just like you.
Again, I think saying one band's fans will ruin Bonnaroo is pure cuh-rap!
I just gotta say that saying any one band's fans will ruin a festival is pure crap. Every individual is different, and to say that they will ruin anything because they are a fan is close-minded and stupid, IMO.
The majority of the people coming to this know what they're getting themselves into...which is 4 days of camping in extreme temps with 80,000 other people. I doubt anybody is going to Bonnaroo just to see one band. I wouldn't.
As for the police, my boyfriend is 36 years old (turning 37 during the festie) and he love the police! Most of the people who like them aren't "old" (when did 50 become old?) and are there to have a good time....just like me and just like you.
Again, I think saying one band's fans will ruin Bonnaroo is pure cuh-rap!
I wanna know when 35-40 became "middle aged". Most fans of the Police are actually in this group - we were the ones in high school while The Police were popular.
I just gotta say that saying any one band's fans will ruin a festival is pure crap. Every individual is different, and to say that they will ruin anything because they are a fan is close-minded and stupid, IMO.
The majority of the people coming to this know what they're getting themselves into...which is 4 days of camping in extreme temps with 80,000 other people. I doubt anybody is going to Bonnaroo just to see one band. I wouldn't.
As for the police, my boyfriend is 36 years old (turning 37 during the festie) and he love the police! Most of the people who like them aren't "old" (when did 50 become old?) and are there to have a good time....just like me and just like you.
Again, I think saying one band's fans will ruin Bonnaroo is pure cuh-rap!
i don't think it's crap. i think it's totally possible that fans of one band could ruins things for others. do i think they are going to ruin the entire festival for everyone else? no. but i do think some problems will arise. when you have a band as big as tool and as out of place at this festival things are bound to happen. i believe tool is definitely out of place, but i am also excited that they will be there. i am a tool fan myself and i know there are lots of tool fans that are cool. but there are definitely some that are not. so when we talk about tool fans, those are the ones we are speaking of. to say they don't exist would be naive
Post by Sköldpadda on May 10, 2007 11:13:20 GMT -5
Most of the killjoy Police fans just aren't willing to camp in a hot-ass field for four days just to see the Police. Same with the meathead Tool guys. I heard dozens of people saying they were going to Bonnaroo after the lineup announcement, and lo and behold, now they just aren't gonna be able to make it.
It takes a certain kind of commitment to endure four days of suffering in exchange for pure unbridled enjoyment, and that is what keeps us safe.
Post by oleander124 on May 10, 2007 11:18:38 GMT -5
sangreal said:
i think it's totally possible that fans of one band could ruins things for others. do i think they are going to ruin the entire festival for everyone else? no. but i do think some problems will arise.
so, what are these "things" that tool fans could ruin? just curious...
i am a tool fan myself and i know there are lots of tool fans that are cool. but there are definitely some that are not. so when we talk about tool fans, those are the ones we are speaking of. to say they don't exist would be crap.
I never said that "non-cool" fans don't exist. EVERY band has "non-cool" fans. It all comes back to the individual and their mindset.
Post by canexplain on May 10, 2007 11:20:21 GMT -5
bos1969 said:
oleander124 said:
I just gotta say that saying any one band's fans will ruin a festival is pure crap. Every individual is different, and to say that they will ruin anything because they are a fan is close-minded and stupid, IMO.
The majority of the people coming to this know what they're getting themselves into...which is 4 days of camping in extreme temps with 80,000 other people. I doubt anybody is going to Bonnaroo just to see one band. I wouldn't.
As for the police, my boyfriend is 36 years old (turning 37 during the festie) and he love the police! Most of the people who like them aren't "old" (when did 50 become old?) and are there to have a good time....just like me and just like you.
Again, I think saying one band's fans will ruin Bonnaroo is pure cuh-rap!
I wanna know when 35-40 became "middle aged". Most fans of the Police are actually in this group - we were the ones in high school while The Police were popular.
minor point .. the police broke up at the end of 1984 .. thus 23 years ago .... so i think most people who originally liked the police are 40+ ... cr*****
i think it's totally possible that fans of one band could ruins things for others. do i think they are going to ruin the entire festival for everyone else? no. but i do think some problems will arise.
so, what are these "things" that tool fans could ruin? just curious...
i am a tool fan myself and i know there are lots of tool fans that are cool. but there are definitely some that are not. so when we talk about tool fans, those are the ones we are speaking of. to say they don't exist would be crap.
I never said that "non-cool" fans don't exist. EVERY band has "non-cool" fans. It all comes back to the individual and their mindset.
what could they ruin? like i said, they will be there for 2 more days after tool plays. they will get bored and drunk and start stuff. and also like someone else was saying happened at coachella, they will be loud and obnoxious during other bands. and right before tool plays there will be a mad rush towards the front and they don't care that there will already be people there. and during the tool show there will be more pushing and running into people, possbile moshing. all of these things are the norm at tool shows. some of those people will be there.
Post by oleander124 on May 10, 2007 11:27:03 GMT -5
It always comes down to the individual.
A Flaming Lips fan (like myself) could ruin it just as easily as a fan of another band. I just think it's stupid/naive/crap to assume a fan of one particular band would ruin anything. It's close-minded, IMO.
Post by Sköldpadda on May 10, 2007 11:28:19 GMT -5
I thought that it had already been established that moshing is NOT the norm at Tool shows...there have been multiple documented cases of Maynard and Co. actually stopping a show until people stop moshing.
Besides, like I said, all the douchebags that were all pumped about Bonnaroo when Tool got announced, at least all the ones I know, they've already all backed out. When you get into the logistics, it's easier (and cheaper) for them to just go see Tool on one of the tour dates.
A Flaming Lips fan (like myself) could ruin it just as easily as a fan of another band. I just think it's stupid/naive/crap to assume a fan of one particular band would ruin anything. It's close-minded, IMO.
it's not. you're just being naive. i like all types of music and all types of bands i go to lots of shows.. and there is definitely a difference from one crowd to another. flaming lips fans are not like tool fans. tool is going to bring the type of fans that bonnaroo has never seen. or, people that have laid off of doing these type of things before will do it now, because there are more of them there to do it.
Post by Sköldpadda on May 10, 2007 11:33:03 GMT -5
sangreal said:
oleander124 said:
It always comes down to the individual.
A Flaming Lips fan (like myself) could ruin it just as easily as a fan of another band. I just think it's stupid/naive/crap to assume a fan of one particular band would ruin anything. It's close-minded, IMO.
it's not. you're just being naive. i like all types of music and all types of bands i go to lots of shows.. and there is definitely a difference from one crowd to another. flaming lips fans are not like tool fans. tool is going to bring the type of fans that bonnaroo has never seen. or, people that have laid off of doing these type of things before will do it now, because there are more of them there to do it.
I thought that it had already been established that moshing is NOT the norm at Tool shows...there have been multiple documented cases of Maynard and Co. actually stopping a show until people stop moshing.
Besides, like I said, all the douchebags that were all pumped about Bonnaroo when Tool got announced, at least all the ones I know, they've already all backed out. When you get into the logistics, it's easier (and cheaper) for them to just go see Tool on one of the tour dates.
well, i have been to 4 tool shows and the only one that didn't have a pit was an ampitheatre show. it was all seats, so you can't mosh. but i can bet there was probably some moshing back on the lawn. i have never seen or heard anything being done to stop it.
Post by oleander124 on May 10, 2007 11:40:41 GMT -5
sangreal said:
it's not. you're just being naive. i like all types of music and all types of bands i go to lots of shows.. and there is definitely a difference from one crowd to another. flaming lips fans are not like tool fans. tool is going to bring the type of fans that bonnaroo has never seen. or, people that have laid off of doing these type of things before will do it now, because there are more of them there to do it.
I'm not being naive. This is my opinion, and I happen to believe it ALWAYS comes down to the individual.
You also have to consider the venue...I seriously doubt any fan would pay over $200 and camp for 4 days in that heat just to see one band and start trouble with other people.
i'd just chill out if i was yooooze. no one bands gonna ruin roo
no crazy fans are gonna be there, that just wanna see tool
the police fans are pretty cool, just chill older peeps
cillax dude
i'm totally relaxed. i'm just warning people. and informing people because if they believe it won't happen, they are wrong. i have came across a few people that are going mainly for tool, believe it or not.
