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"Rusty" Schweickart did actually fly in space on Apollo 9, but was unable to complete the majority of his assignments because he suffered from space sickness
Does his name mean anything to anybody?
Also, sts 9 has been brought up... I wish that was it, so that I could get back to work
C.C. Williams and Charlie Bassett, as well as Ted Freeman all were selected at astronauts, but died during test flights.
There was not apollo 2 or 3, and apollo 4-6 were all unmaned, maybe that has something to do with it..
1. A trip to space - means exactly what it says 2. A trip to space thwarted - a space mission that failed or didn't accomplish what it set out to do - most obvious that come to mind for me are Apollo 13 and the Challenger 3. Thwarted by a speckled lad's demise - has to refer to JFK because he set out to put Americans on the moon with the Apollo space program and had freckles (speckled) as a kid (lad)
The answer's gotta be somehow tied to Kennedy and the Apollo space program. I know most of us already figured this but I'm just trying to make some sense of it personally and trying to redirect us to this.
Gary C. tweeted that this was on the right track, except for the 3rd step. So where can we take it?
What is the explanation for the STS9 guess? I don't feel like reading the last 10 pages.
Eastkyroo brought it up at first and then we were both looking into it. Here's what I posted a while ago:
Good find. There may be something here.
A trip to space thwarted by a speckled lad's demise. A watershed moment otherwise
The STS-9 shuttle launch was delayed for a month due to a nozzle problem that necessitated moving the vehicle back to the Vehicle Assembly Building where the nozzle was replaced.
Not sure how a nozzle problem has any connection to "speckled lad" but we could say that the nozzle's demise cause this space trip to be thwarted.
Then after they finally got to space it was considered highly successful having proved the feasibility of the concept of carrying out complex experiments in space using non-NASA persons.
Rusty Schweickart was supposed to do the first EVA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra-vehicular_activity) but couldn't because he got space sickness. He was supposed to test the Portable Life Support System that would be used to walk on the Moon.
Space sickness could've been his demise. Gary could've been saying that the first part of what natedogg said in #2 was correct, meaning the mission didn't accomplish what it set out to do.
This, from Wikipedia, might help. It's what happened as a result of his getting space sickness:
"The time Schweickart spent post-flight studying space sickness contributed to his missing assignments on Apollo lunar missions. Schweickart instead served as backup commander for the first Skylab space station mission, which flew in the Spring of 1973. Following the loss of the space station's thermal shield during launch, he assumed responsibility for the development of hardware and procedures for erecting an emergency solar shade and deploying a jammed solar array wing, operations which saved the space station."
Dealing with rusty Schweickart i found this on wikipedia.
Schweickart was also due to perform an EVA, the first of the Apollo program, to test the Portable Life Support System that would be used to walk on the Moon. The original plan was for him to transfer from the Lunar Module to the Command Module using handrails on the LM. Schweickart began to suffer from space sickness on the first day in orbit forcing the postponement of the EVA. Eventually he improved, and instead of the transfer, he performed a standup EVA outside the Lunar Module while Scott stood up in the hatch of the Command Module.
The time Schweickart spent post-flight studying space sickness contributed to his missing assignments on Apollo lunar missions. Schweickart instead served as backup commander for the first Skylab space station mission, which flew in the Spring of 1973. Following the loss of the space station's thermal shield during launch, he assumed responsibility for the development of hardware and procedures for erecting an emergency solar shade and deploying a jammed solar array wing, operations which saved the space station.
Schweickart was awarded the NASA Distinguished Service Medal, and the NASA Exceptional Service Medal in 1973.
I don't see anything that I could link to any bands, though.
Plus I'm not sure that the space trip was thwarted. Just Schweickart didn't get to do what he had set out to do.
EDIT: Yea the first time I read it, i didn't think it applied. But I figured, and info could prove helpful.
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Rusty Schweickart was supposed to do the first EVA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra-vehicular_activity) but couldn't because he got space sickness. He was supposed to test the Portable Life Support System that would be used to walk on the Moon.
Space sickness could've been his demise. Gary could've been saying that the first part of what natedogg said in #2 was correct, meaning the mission didn't accomplish what it set out to do.
This, from Wikipedia, might help. It's what happened as a result of his getting space sickness:
"The time Schweickart spent post-flight studying space sickness contributed to his missing assignments on Apollo lunar missions. Schweickart instead served as backup commander for the first Skylab space station mission, which flew in the Spring of 1973. Following the loss of the space station's thermal shield during launch, he assumed responsibility for the development of hardware and procedures for erecting an emergency solar shade and deploying a jammed solar array wing, operations which saved the space station."
If Roger Waters had not been ruled out...I would have gone this route with the Challenger theory...
The disaster (challenger) resulted in a 32-month hiatus in the shuttle program and the formation of the Rogers Commission, Watershed moment = Waters
Roger Waters...
i thought of this too, but neglected to mention in, as not to prime the hopes of the ladies and gentlemen on inforoo. Another thing, I couldnt find where speckled lad fit in
Post by plasticpepper on Jan 17, 2011 16:33:55 GMT -5
Okay, what about this...I started thinking that the speckled lad might not be a human but might refer to a probe or something similar. That might account for the unusual wording (speckled rather than freckled, etc.)
SO....the probes Mariner 8 and Mariner 9 were headed to Mars at the same time. Mariner 8 suffered from a launch time failure, but 9 made it to orbit around Mars. Mariner 9 (along with two Soviet probes) found a huge dust storm on Mars but when the storm cleared got some awesome photos....the first photos that suggested the possibility of WATER.
Anything? I'm not sure how to make Mariner 8 a "speckled lad" and I'm not sure where to go from here anyway, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
Rusty did actually do an eva, just not what was originally planed. I tweeted gary about it to see if I was hot or cold, will let you know what he says.
Post by luckyusername on Jan 17, 2011 16:39:32 GMT -5
Found this while trying to link speckled lad with the clue to make Roger Waters...involves a definition of speckle pertaining to space travel...
What is speckle? As the spacecraft moves along in its orbit, the radar antenna transmits pulses very rapidly. It can therefore obtain many backscattered radar responses from a particular object while passing overhead. In fact the ERS-1 SAR records about 1,000 responses for a single object. The SAR processor could use all of these responses to obtain the object's radar cross-section (i.e. how brightly the object backscattered the incoming radar), but the result often contains quite a bit of speckle.
Speckle, generally considered to be noise, is due in part to the SAR's fine resolution and its signals' coherency. Speckle can be caused by an object that behaves as a very strong reflector at a particular alignment between itself and the spacecraft, or by a coherent sum of all the various responses within a grid cell which happen to randomly sum (as vectors with magnitude and phase) to a large resultant magnitude at a given phase.
To reduce speckle, the data are sometimes processed in sections which are later combined. With ERS-1's 1,000 samples per object, we might wish to use an object's first 250 responses to determine its radar cross-section. If we then processed the next 250 responses to get another estimate, and so on, we would end up with four estimates of the object's radar cross-section. Combining these four estimates, or looks, together would reduce the amount of speckle.
When an image has been processed as "4-looks": the first 250 (or so) samples of each viewed object were processed to make one image; the next 250 samples for each object were processed to make a second image; the third and fourth images were created with the next chunks of data; and the four images (looks) were combined to create the final result.
The more looks that are used to process an image, the less speckle there is. (The Complex-Format SAR Data Example [given below] demonstrates this.) It must be taken into account that information deemed important is also lost in this process, however, and that resolution is reduced. Several research groups are developing/improving algorithms to reduce speckle while saving as much accurate information as possible.
Post by luckyusername on Jan 17, 2011 16:42:18 GMT -5
I would focus on this part if any; "Speckle, generally considered to be noise, is due in part to the SAR's fine resolution and its signals' coherency. Speckle can be caused by an object that behaves as a very strong reflector"
Post by itrainmonkeys on Jan 17, 2011 17:15:35 GMT -5
space shuttle STS9 was delayed because of a nozzle problem. a "LAD" is a "liquid acquisition device" which sounds like it's a kind of nozzle.
the nozzle's (lad) demise thwarted a trip to space (for a little while). when they did get to space, it was a watershed moment (turning point) because it was one of the first space trips to carry out complex experiments in space using non-NASA persons and was also the last time the old Space Transportation System numbering was used
note: some of this is wrong or stretching. there's no specific connection to the nozzle and a LAD but they seem close so it's worth mentioning
1. A trip to space - means exactly what it says 2. A trip to space thwarted - a space mission that failed or didn't accomplish what it set out to do - most obvious that come to mind for me are Apollo 13 and the Challenger 3. Thwarted by a speckled lad's demise - has to refer to JFK because he set out to put Americans on the moon with the Apollo space program and had freckles (speckled) as a kid (lad)
So everyone should be looking into Apollo 13, Challenger, or other missions that were thwarted.
Description LAD is an supply air nozzle suitable for ventilation of large areas where long throws are required. The nozzle can be used for both heated and cooled air. LAD has a standard MF measure and can be installed directly on a male spigot in the desired direction.
Description LAD is an supply air nozzle suitable for ventilation of large areas where long throws are required. The nozzle can be used for both heated and cooled air. LAD has a standard MF measure and can be installed directly on a male spigot in the desired direction.
A trip to space thwarted by a speckled lad's demise. A watershed moment otherwise
The STS-9 shuttle launch was delayed for a month due to a nozzle problem that necessitated moving the vehicle back to the Vehicle Assembly Building where the nozzle was replaced.
Not sure how a nozzle problem has any connection to "speckled lad" but we could say that the nozzle's demise cause this space trip to be thwarted.
Then after they finally got to space it was considered highly successful having proved the feasibility of the concept of carrying out complex experiments in space using non-NASA persons.
not sure if it fits.....but sound tribe are no stranger to Roo and this has some connections
Challenger didnt complete its mission. the shuttle ran space lab missions. thespacelab.tv (spacelab) on their website they have a 2011 music feStival guide. on the bonnaroo page, the article only mentions one band and put the bands name in bold letters....Radiohead. I know a lot of people guess Radiohead every year on every clue, but I just stumbled across it and thought I would share. I still didn't connect the speckled lad part to it, any thoughts?
Also the columbia space shuttle explosion was an STS mision. There is a STS-9 mission in the same series. I didn't tie in speckled lad on this one either