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Post by Fiddler's Green on May 18, 2013 14:18:05 GMT -5
Okay, I get it. Kanye is brilliant, a genius. He will probably be at the top of the list when they talk about musical innovators and influences 25 years from now. I agree with all that. I anxiously await any new work he produces. But let's ease up on the "Jimi sux" crap. I like this David Fricke write up (note this does not imply that I believe "Jimi is better than Kanye" - arguments of that type for either side are illogical and silly):
I feel sad for people who have to judge Jimi Hendrix on the basis of recordings and film alone; because in the flesh he was so extraordinary. He had a kind of alchemist's ability; when he was on the stage, he changed. He physically changed. He became incredibly graceful and beautiful. It wasn't just people taking LSD, though that was going on, there's no question. But he had a power that almost sobered you up if you were on an acid trip. He was bigger than LSD.
What he played was quacking loud but also incredibly lyrical and expert. He managed to build this bridge between true blues guitar — the kind that Eric Clapton had been battling with for years and years — and modern sounds, the kind of Syd Barrett-meets-Townshend sound, the wall of screaming guitar sound that U2 popularized. He brought the two together brilliantly. And it was supported by a visual magic that obviously you won't get if you just listen to the music. He did this thing where he would play a chord, and then he would sweep his left hand through the air in a curve, and it would almost take you away from the idea that there was a guitar player here and that the music was actually coming out of the end of his fingers. And then people say, "Well, you were obviously on NO NO WORD!!!" But I wasn't, and I wasn't drunk, either. I can just remember being taken over by this, and the images he was producing or evoking were naturally psychedelic in tone because we were surrounded by psychedelic graphics. All of the images that were around us at the time had this kind of echoey, acidy quality to them. The lighting in all the clubs was psychedelic and drippy.
He was dusty — he had cobwebs and dust all over him. He was a very unremarkable-looking guy with an old military jacket on that was pretty dirty. It looked like he'd maybe slept in it a few nights running. When he would walk toward the stage, nobody would really take much notice of him. But when he walked off, I saw him walk up to some of the most covetable women in the world. Hendrix would snap his fingers, and they followed him. Onstage, he was very erotic as well. To a man watching, he was erotic like Mick Jagger is erotic. It wasn't "You know, I'd like to take that guy in the bathroom and Quack him." It was a high form of eroticism, almost spiritual in quality. There was a sense of wanting to possess him and wanting to be a part of him, to know how he did what he did because he was so powerfully affecting. Johnny Rotten did it, Kurt Cobain did it. As a man, you wanted to be a part of Johnny Rotten's gang, you wanted to be a part of Kurt Cobain's gang.
He was shy and kind and sweet, and he was Quacked up and insecure. If you were as lucky as I was, you'd spend a few hours with him after a gig and watch him descend out of this incredibly colorful, energized face. There was also something quite sad about watching him. There was a hedonism about him. Toward the end of his life, he seemed to be having fun, but maybe a little bit too much. It was happening to a lot of people, but it was sad to see it happen to him.
With Jimi, I didn't have any envy. I never had any sense that I could ever come close. I remember feeling quite sorry for Eric, who thought that he might actually be able to emulate Jimi. I also felt sorry that he should think that he needed to. Because I thought Eric was wonderful anyway. Perhaps I make assumptions here that I shouldn't, but it's true. Once — I think it was at a gig Jimi played at the Scotch of St. James [in London] — Eric and I found ourselves holding each other's hands. You know, what we were watching was so profoundly powerful.
The third or fourth time that I saw him, he was supporting the Who at the Saville Theatre. That was the first time I saw him set his guitar on fire. It didn't do very much. He poured lighter fluid over the guitar and set fire to it, and then the next day he would be playing with a guitar that was a little bit charred. In fact, I remember teasing him, saying, "That's not good enough — you need a proper flamethrower, it needs to be completely destroyed." We started getting into an argument about destroying your guitar — if you're going to do it, you have to do it properly. You have to break every little piece of the guitar, and then you have to give it away so it can't be rebuilt. Only that is proper breaking your guitar. He was looking at me like I was quacking mad.
Trying to work out how he affected me at my ground zero, the fact is that I felt like I was robbed. I felt the Who were in some ways quite a silly little group, that they were indeed my art-school installation. They were constructed ideas and images and some cool little pop songs. Some of the music was good, but a lot of what the Who did was very tongue-in-cheek, or we reserved the right to pretend it was tongue-in-cheek if the audience laughed at it. The Who would always look like we didn't really mean it, like it didn't really matter. You know, you smash a guitar, you walk off and go, "Quack it all. It's all a load of tripe anyway." That really was the beginning of that punk consciousness. And Jimi arrived with proper music.
He made the electric guitar beautiful. It had always been dangerous, it had always been able to evoke anger. If you go right back to the beginning of it, John Lee Hooker shoving a microphone into his guitar back in the 1940s, it made his guitar sound angry, impetuous, and dangerous. The guitar players who worked through the Fifties and with the early rock artists — James Burton, who worked with Ricky Nelson and the Everly Brothers, Steve Cropper with Booker T. — these Nashville-influenced players had a steely, flick-knife sound, really kind of spiky compared to the beautiful sound of the six-string acoustic being played in the background. In those great early Elvis songs, you hear Elvis himself playing guitar on songs like "Hound Dog," and then you hear an electric guitar come in, and it's not a pleasant sound. Early blues players, too — Muddy Waters, Buddy Guy, Albert King — they did it to hurt your ears. Jimi made it beautiful and made it OK to make it beautiful.
Well you can't buy Groop camping any more as it's sold out and they aren't allowing expansion of groups either. As far as I've been told, Groop Camping is ultimately just a little thing you hang from your mirror or put on your car as you arrive so they know to route you to that area instead of any other area. That's it. There's not a bouncer sitting by groop camping at all times checking people like it's a nightclub. Unless they're changing it this year I think your friend should be fine staying in groop camping despite not having paid for it if they arrive in a car that indicates that it should be routed to groop camping.
Please treat the Bonnaroo volunteers that make your weekend possible with respect.
Yeah, the first line is always to be respectful especially when the volunteer is doing the same, but if they continue when they are in the wrong, things will eventually go south. Using the RV example, I would not go without shade outside the RV for the weekend just because they are trying to shove my RV in too close to the nearest RV.
You know those great discoveries you find hidden in festival lineup's? Ya. That just happened. I won't compare every twangy female artist to Neko but in this case .. Wow. Color me impressed. Think Neko Case with Jeff Buckley-esque melancholy being backed by The Dirty Three. That's a good starting point.
like i said in this game already, i keep my thoughts to myself. ive learned in playing this game multiple times, publicly posting your thoughts and accusing people only leads to townies getting voted off.
Dammit. I wish I'd read this before posting.
That's just him way of playing. IMO, if he's a townie, he's not helping the town any. By accusing and voicing your suspicions, you get reactions from not just the person your accusing, but others who may not be thinking the same as you, or people who all too easily accept your point of view. It's all about how you gauge these things, not keeping everything to yourself But that's just me
like i said in this game already, i keep my thoughts to myself. ive learned in playing this game multiple times, publicly posting your thoughts and accusing people only leads to townies getting voted off.
Usually mafia are trying to kill the inspector with the whack. If they don't feel like they can identify the inspector, they will likely just kill off whoever they think is the best player. Its possible MikeD fits into either of these categories or both. It seems the only person he spoke about negatively was Tejas. He did vote for Phi to start, but that was in response to Phi's VP request so I don't think that his vote for Phi should necessarily cast suspicion on Phi.
Its possible that MikeD was inspector but he didn't really post much and he was 1 of 5 people that ended up voting for Tejas. If Tejas is mafia, inspector could be any of those 5 people. Obviously, if MikeD was inspector that puts a lot of suspicion on Tejas who already messed up with the "accidental" stack on Boneroo and then moving his vote off Boneroo when he realized it rubbed some people the wrong way. I'd expect Tejas to get some votes this round for those two reasons.
If MikeD was whacked b/c mafia felt he was one of the more experienced players and not b/c they thought he was inspector (probably more likely given that MikeD barely posted anything) then it might mean Mafia wasn't really connected to the runoff at all. At the same time, Tejas might be mafia and even if they don't feel strongly that MikeD was inspector, it makes sense to kill an experienced player like MikeD who is also hot on the trail of one of the mafia.
I'm kinda disappointed that we couldn't manage to get a 3-person runoff last round as we probably would have gotten more information. At one point the vote count was Tejas-3, LD-3, Boneroo-2 and there were only 3 players who didn't have a vote on either of them (Phi, BlackAmy, and Linana). Either of these 3 could have voted for Boneroo to make it a 3-way runoff and chose not to. .
Neither of these three (Phi, BlackAmy, Linana) acted in the interests of the town by avoiding a 3-way runoff. Right now I'm going to start off with a vote on Linana because I'm a townie so obviously someone who votes for me and then avoids a 3-way runoff is going to make me suspicious. I'm not locked in on her, but I think we should have at least 2 of Tejas, Linana, BlackAmy, and Phi in this runoff.
Jimmy >> Linana
I realize now that it was not in the best interests of the town to not have a 3 person runoff, but at the time I didn't have any suspicions about Boneroo, and didn't want to shove him into the runoff just to have a 3rd person. At the time, I was suspicious of Jimmy and MikeD, so I was hoping someone would put a second vote on one of them. I didn't move my vote since it was already on someone I was suspicious of. I was also very suspicious of LD, and didn't feel that adding a potential townie to the runoff would be in the best interest of getting LD voted out.
I think voting off LD was a mistake, and with mike d whacked, we've lost a lot of experience, and I feel like that was more the mission of mafia with this whack.
I think this makes a good (albeit obvious) point, but I'm still not convinced that LD wasn't mafia.
like i said in this game already, i keep my thoughts to myself. ive learned in playing this game multiple times, publicly posting your thoughts and accusing people only leads to townies getting voted off.
April 12-14th - Indio, CA - Coachella Weekend 1
May 3-5th - Memphis, TN - Beale St. Music Festival
June 13-16th - Manchester, TN - Bonnaroo
July 12-14th - Louisville, KY - Forecastle Festival
August 2-4th - Chicago, IL - Lollapalooza
September 27-29th - Atlanta, GA - TomorrowWorld
October 25-27th - Asheville, NC - Mountain Oasis
I will be bringing some Sun King to REPREZENT the Hoosier state! It is the only local craft beer I can think of that is distributed in cans. I wish it were possible to bring some Three Floyds varieties. This delicious concoction should be shared with the world, or at least the Bonnaroo world.
Sun King! Our car will be packing some too. Haven't been able to find decent cans of anything around Indy besides SKB though..
World Beverages/Monarch Distribution is actually on the east side of Indy and I'm going to ask them what they do with busted packages.
I have only tried the cream ale and Osiris from SKB. Do they have any other varieties? The Osiris might be a bit too hoppy for my tastes if its blazing hot. I have heard mixing the cream ale and the Osiris make a delicious Black and Tan of sorts.
Post by canexplain on May 18, 2013 13:38:43 GMT -5
I love complicated time signatures (like King Crimson). Complicated music sometimes throws people. Some seem to think these guys are just goofing around. Not ... cr****
Whack points to Tejas, then you point to Tejas. I was looking in a different direction until you posted. I figure mafia is 1 experienced and 2 noobs. Gettin LD voted off and whacking Mikd D leaves a lot of space to manipulate and run game with less chance of being called out. I was looking at jimmy until his post this round. I'm not throwing away the key here, but I'd like to see what you think about what's goin down.
April 12-14th - Indio, CA - Coachella Weekend 1
May 3-5th - Memphis, TN - Beale St. Music Festival
June 13-16th - Manchester, TN - Bonnaroo
July 12-14th - Louisville, KY - Forecastle Festival
August 2-4th - Chicago, IL - Lollapalooza
September 27-29th - Atlanta, GA - TomorrowWorld
October 25-27th - Asheville, NC - Mountain Oasis
So, has a schedule change been made every time they post a link to the schedule on their Facebook page? I've noticed they have been posting that link alot lately...
I noticed that too, but then looked more carefully and saw it was actually a "Sponsored" post, and it wasn't being posted repeatedly on their Facebook page
Post by tealeyedangel on May 18, 2013 13:01:22 GMT -5
So @ellebelle and myself found these tablets at the store, they are flavor/water enhancers Specifically designed for the CamelBaks, meaning they wont clog the lines or jack up the bitevalves like other things can do, or stain or anything like that. I can deal with bottled water but that wellwater taste sometimes turns my stomach or causes my drinking ability to lower due to the taste at times, I believe its from living in a house with a well that had a bad sulfur problem so I mentally associate well water with Sulfur and *grimace* you know. Has anyone ever used them or know if they are even worth it? I don't want to drop a tablet in my Camelbak, try to drink it and it taste like rotten ass or something lol.
They are called Elixir, its an electrolyte tablet that you put in the bladder.
Am I the only one who finds it a little strange that Tejas is the first one to post after the whack, and giving us everythign Mike D said.
Kinda makes me think Tejas wants us to find something
Just thought it would be convenient and helpful to the other townies to have all of Mike D's post in one area. I picked up this tactic from Viking last game, and I found it a lot easier rather than searching different pages of the thread.
Edit- Im still mulling over a few scenarios in my head. I'll post my thoughts on the whack and 1st round voting in a little bit.
Also makes people lazy and more often miss important points that were made before and after these posts. There's no real context when reading them alone. I think voting off LD was a mistake, and with mike d whacked, we've lost a lot of experience, and I feel like that was more the mission of mafia with this whack. Tejas is still on my radar, but I'm always sceptical when a whack points directly at one person. I the 2 games I've been mafia, I always looked at ways to set up innocent players.
Thanks again Phi for taking the lead and then following up on this. Your a good egg sir!
You say that now. Wait till you find out I spent all the money on an imported sex doll.
As long as you have pics we can sell and make money back all is good. Folks is freaky and there is a market for fat white guy w/ imported sex doll, it will all be in the marketing. Let us know if we need a "Pasty and Doll" street team...
Post by HoodooOperator on May 18, 2013 12:53:49 GMT -5
I'm certain the guests will be Nicki Bluhm, Tim Bluhm, Deren Ney, Dave Mulligan, and Ryan Montbleau Band. Ron Johnson could be there, but will not be needed because Steve is there with NB&Gs. And I wouldn't put too much into Jack Johnson joining them, that would be a long shot. This set should be absolutely amazing. The possibilities are ENDLESS. I'm so jealous of everyone who gets to see this..
So, has a schedule change been made every time they post a link to the schedule on their Facebook page? I've noticed they have been posting that link alot lately...
April 12-14th - Indio, CA - Coachella Weekend 1
May 3-5th - Memphis, TN - Beale St. Music Festival
June 13-16th - Manchester, TN - Bonnaroo
July 12-14th - Louisville, KY - Forecastle Festival
August 2-4th - Chicago, IL - Lollapalooza
September 27-29th - Atlanta, GA - TomorrowWorld
October 25-27th - Asheville, NC - Mountain Oasis