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Post by HelloGoodbye on Jan 30, 2007 17:04:23 GMT -5
So last year was my first Bonnaroo. And of course I had a great time. Ever since last year I've been looking forward to Roo 07.
My parents were fine about letting me go last year ( I was 16 at the time ) although they made sure to let me know how worried they would be.
So when I brought up this year they said "No, I don't think it's such a good idea". That kinda broke my heart. But I think if I say the right things I'll be able to change their answer to an "alright, you can go".
So does anyone have any suggestions on what would be good things to say ? Thanks.
*i like coconuts, you can break them open they smell like ladies lyin in the sun** *Hell I don't even know where I am** *for now I must sit here and ponder the yonder: The herbivores did well cause their food didn't never run** *We listen, if it feels good We shake** *You made a big impression for a girl of your size, Now I can't get by without you and your big brown eyes.**
*i like coconuts, you can break them open they smell like ladies lyin in the sun** *Hell I don't even know where I am** *for now I must sit here and ponder the yonder: The herbivores did well cause their food didn't never run** *We listen, if it feels good We shake** *You made a big impression for a girl of your size, Now I can't get by without you and your big brown eyes.**
Post by areyoukind on Jan 30, 2007 17:14:45 GMT -5
haha in 05 my parents told me yes, then i got my ticket, and they changed their minds to no.
so we had driven from dallas to memphis the week before roo so i could get registered for college, and on wednesday night, i quietly left my aunts house and was picked up by my friends outside and we were on the way!
that year was exciting but i was kinda thinking about that the whole time i was in altered states.
the reason i couldn't go is they had caught me smoking weed earlier in the summer and i was 'grounded'. so it was the first time in my 18 year long life i had ever been on less than superb terms with my parents. kinda shitty, but last year they were supportive and donated supplies and this year it looks to be the same
*i like coconuts, you can break them open they smell like ladies lyin in the sun** *Hell I don't even know where I am** *for now I must sit here and ponder the yonder: The herbivores did well cause their food didn't never run** *We listen, if it feels good We shake** *You made a big impression for a girl of your size, Now I can't get by without you and your big brown eyes.**
I got it. I use this method with people that decide they really don't feel like listening to me at work, I'm their boss. I get a rock or a really pointy rock. Show it to them. Then let them guess all the things your thinking of doing with said brick/rock.
Never tell them you have a rock garden it'll ruin the fun.
Post by iridethecannibus on Jan 31, 2007 0:27:24 GMT -5
mschro said:
so, your sisters can go, but you cant?
^^^^I would most certainly avoid using this particular logic on them, as it screams of immaturity. "SUSIE GOT A SNOWCONE, I WANT ONE!" Clearly, your sisters are over 18 and you are not, hence having the discussion in the first place. You'd be much better off coming at it from the angle of having your sisters to look after you, not demanding to go "cuz they get to"
not saying that you were planning on going that route, just offering some advice
Your parents probably wouldn't be doing there job if they let you go. If you want to go to Roo, you're probably going to have to think outside the box on this one, hope you don't get caught and then take the punishment with memories.
Post by ziggyandthemonkeys on Jan 31, 2007 0:57:22 GMT -5
Well, you could get a job, they might like you more after that, ha. If not, might just have to bite the bullet^, and take the consequences and peace if you really want to go. You've only got another year with them, so thats not too long. ;D
*i like coconuts, you can break them open they smell like ladies lyin in the sun** *Hell I don't even know where I am** *for now I must sit here and ponder the yonder: The herbivores did well cause their food didn't never run** *We listen, if it feels good We shake** *You made a big impression for a girl of your size, Now I can't get by without you and your big brown eyes.**
Post by oatmealschnappz on Jan 31, 2007 1:25:44 GMT -5
I haven't had to deal with parents in a long time and mine were ultra-unreasonable. Even if I had raised every cent on my own, found a ride and had proper "adult" supervsion while there, they would've found some reason to forbid it. Not trying to be a negative influence or anything, but I would just go (if I could raise the money) and deal with the consequences afterward. It would give me a extra motivation to really do it right. My parents couldn't have ever thought of a punishment worthy of me missing a Bonnaroo. That's just me.
I haven't had to deal with parents in a long time and mine were ultra-unreasonable. Even if I had raised every cent on my own, found a ride and had proper "adult" supervsion while there, they would've found some reason to forbid it. Not trying to be a negative influence or anything, but I would just go (if I could raise the money) and deal with the consequences afterward. It would give me a extra motivation to really do it right. My parents couldn't have ever thought of a punishment worthy of me missing a Bonnaroo. That's just me.
word. i told my mom the night before that i was going anyway. she didn't believe me
*i like coconuts, you can break them open they smell like ladies lyin in the sun** *Hell I don't even know where I am** *for now I must sit here and ponder the yonder: The herbivores did well cause their food didn't never run** *We listen, if it feels good We shake** *You made a big impression for a girl of your size, Now I can't get by without you and your big brown eyes.**
Post by cluelessmom on Jan 31, 2007 5:36:26 GMT -5
From a parents point of view.......
Our son wants to go to Bonnaroo this summer, so we're taking him. (That may not be possible for all parents.) To be honest, we end up letting him have his way too often. That said, if we told him no & he sneaked off & went anyway, that would be a very poor decision on his part that he would regret. My husband & I would be making an unplanned trip to Manchester, & he'd be leaving with us. I'm sure it would be very embarrassing to have security escort him out, because his parents were there to get him. He'd be grounded for quite a while, & local concerts would be out of the question for several months.
We've always told him he can tell us anything & we'll deal it, but if he lies to us there won't be a discussion. The same would go for sneaking out. Your parents must have a reason for allowing you to go last year, but not this year. You should try discussing it with them calmly & see why they don't want you to go, & what it would take to change their minds. If you can't get them to agree for you to go, you'd be better off staying home & hoping for next summer. I know it's very tempting, but nothing is worth losing your parent's trust.
Have you tried getting your sisters to go to bat for you? That may help. Good luck convincing them.
My husband & I would be making an unplanned trip to Manchester, & he'd be leaving with us. I'm sure it would be very embarrassing to have security escort him out, because his parents were there to get him.
The chances of finding someone at Bonnaroo who isn't expecting you are slim to none unless they tell you where they are. There isn't a PA system giving announcements for missing persons and security would have no way of finding someone (it's 80K people spread out over 700 acres). Security is just there for crowd control. It can be hard to hook up with friends even when you know the time and place to meet.
Post by trippindaisy on Jan 31, 2007 10:08:37 GMT -5
I solve the problem by taking my daughter and her friend Although I want to go just as much (if not more!) than them...... It's a good time for all and there is no fighting. Luckily we have pretty much the same taste in music.
To be quite honest, I would not let her go without an adult, but I also know she would never get the money together and be motivated enough to sneak out and try to go alone
Post by cluelessmom on Jan 31, 2007 10:26:36 GMT -5
pigsnzen said:
cluelessmom said:
My husband & I would be making an unplanned trip to Manchester, & he'd be leaving with us. I'm sure it would be very embarrassing to have security escort him out, because his parents were there to get him.
The chances of finding someone at Bonnaroo who isn't expecting you are slim to none unless they tell you where they are. There isn't a PA system giving announcements for missing persons and security would have no way of finding someone (it's 80K people spread out over 700 acres). Security is just there for crowd control. It can be hard to hook up with friends even when you know the time and place to meet.
I'm sure it's not easy, but I think the fact that it's a minor who is technically a runaway would result in them doing anything necessary to locate that person. If the guards couldn't handle it alone, they'd most likely call in law enforcement. If that happened, all 80,000 people would probably join the search just to get rid of the cops. Don't get me wrong, it's definitely not something I would want to do, but I would. By letting him get away with it, we'd be sending the message that it's okay to disobey us.
I'm sure it's not easy, but I think the fact that it's a minor who is technically a runaway would result in them doing anything necessary to locate that person. If the guards couldn't handle it alone, they'd most likely call in law enforcement.
I'm not trying to be argumentative here, but I think you have an unrealistic view of the control systems in place at Bonnaroo (I believe you said in another thread you've never attended). Very few police officers enter the main venue - it's less than 350 on-site for the whole weekend and most of them never enter the festival grounds. I am willing to bet that a "rescue" mission for a runaway minor would never even be attempted - the police have their hands full with felonies/possession busts all weekend long.
I agree on not allowing your child to disrespect you and I would probably try to do the same thing, but it's not realistic with the 300-1 or larger ratio of Rooers/police that they would assemble any significant effort into a single missing persons claim. I could be wrong, but in the past five years I've never seen anything like that.
Would the parents even be allowed to go into the grounds without a ticket?
Anyways, I dunno what I think about all this. I'm 17, and this'll be my first Roo. However, the last two years (05-06) I've gone to the Austin City Limits Festival with my dad. It's been great, especially 2006. Even though he's just turned 50 he loves SCI (caught them at the festival and the aftershow) and liked a lot of the other acts, like Nickel Creek and Asleep at the Wheel and Explosions in the Sky and Muse (!) and plenty of others.
This year it took a bit of work, but I was able to combine Xmas money and my own money and my friend and I got pre-sale tickets. We'll both be 18 and just have graduated by the time of the festival, so we've been cleared to go. It will be our first real trip without them and we're both looking forward to it for the chance to fly solo and, of course, the music. They even gave me a lantern and bought me a tent for Christmas!
Even though I butt heads with my parents a lot, I don't think I could ever do something as drastic as running away and going to a festival. It's just too much to do, and I enjoy talking to them about music too much to pretty much ruin that connection. They aren't paying for college or anything so I'm pretty much on my own after this, but you're only given one shot and I really don't want to create long-term problems over it.
What I've done in the past is just isolated what their concerns were and reasonably explained solutions for each. I've also slowly explained why the festival matters in a reasonable way, never taking the drastic route. It's hard not to make comments like the "Christmas" thing you said, but typically parents have gone through most of life's major stressors so they are looking for things that aren't going to be as major. Try to break down your going into less of a major decision and make it as easy as possible for them to say yes. If they feel comfortable with you and that you aren't just bitching at them incessantly, then they're going to feel more comfortable granting you the chance for Roo.
Post by augustwest on Jan 31, 2007 11:50:03 GMT -5
The past 2 years I knew people who were at roo, had plans to meet them, and never saw them. Short of GPS there is no way to find someone specific there, even if 50 cops were dedicated to looking at everyones ID provided they even have or show it, they still would probably not find your kid, I am sure that there are probably a ton of parents at the gates trying the same thing. If they are reasonably close to 18, and had the sense to raise 200 bux for a ticket, and find their way to the middle of nowhere in Tennessee without your help, it is probably time to let them leave the nest.
Post by frankthemute on Jan 31, 2007 12:07:04 GMT -5
Well, my mom grew up real poor and could never afford concerts growing up. So when it came to me, she would get mad at me if I didnt go to concerts cause she knew I liked em a lot and she always told me I was only going to be young and without kids once. Id miss some though for lack of money and she would really jump me. I tried talkin her into goin this year to Roo but she is goin to country fan fair or whatever the hell it is that weekend in Nashville. I guess I was lucky cause my parents trusted me to travel far distances in highschool to see shows and other things cause they knew I stayed as far from trouble as possible. So, after all that B.S., just explain to ur parents your a good kid (hopefully uve never been in trouble), tell em your love for bonnaroo, show em some articles and get on youtube and show em that everyone there is friendly and its safe. Use your sisters and throw in the word chaperone once or twice maybe. And if that dont work and nothing else mentioned does, then just go man. When you make it back alive and not in trouble, you may get in some deep shit, but hell man......you cant let someone take your Bonnaroo. I mean there are a lot worse things I wouldnt want my kids goin to....like the beach. Everyone always ends up in jail when you go to the beach.
P.S. to the mom : You sound like a cool mom goin to Roo with your kid, but I hope it isnt outta distrust but rather U wanna have a fun time with your kid which Im sure it is. But, you will see in June, Ud never find your kid there lol. We need more parents at Roo!!!! You wouldnt believe how cool they can be sometimes when put in the proper environment. Even tho my mom is a church goin, god fearing conservative, I love her and he would love Roo.
Post by trippindaisy on Jan 31, 2007 12:21:02 GMT -5
I also grew up very poor and never had the experience of going to concerts when I was young, so I have made sure my daughter (since birth) has experienced as much as I could provide her. She has been to more DMB and Phish shows than most adults I know.
I personally take my daughter to Roo (she is 15) because we have a great time and both have a great love of music. It is also a wonderful bonding experience for us. I would recommend it to all parents!
You have to try to understand all your parents concerns and see it from their side. Only then can you truly address those issues in ways that they might feel comfortable with. Good luck -