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^^^I have listened to every Neil Young album all the way through. I promise you this. I have no reason why I think they're bad. They just don't connect with me (and, as I mentioned, gauging by the mediocre to poor reviews much of his output since 1980 has received, I'm not the only one. I'm not stating that these PROVE that there is some concrete concept of "bad" and that these albums reach that definition, I'm simply saying it gives a little credence to my opinion).
^^If you read my initial post, I pointed out that the 80's were not good for Dylan, either. But, to me, Dylan is more consistent in releasing great albums than Neil is. I hope you're not saying that all those albums are clunkers...Love and Theft is phenomenal, as are Time Out of Mind and Modern Times.
^Neil is a better guitarist (obviously) and might be a better musician, but to me, Dylan is flat-out a better songwriter.
Not only the guitar ; the keenness on harmonies, at creating song structure and arrangements, his voice, as a live performer. I will not argue with anyone that thinks Dylan's the best songwriter, you believe so for a damn good reason.
Their recorded output is about equal, good and bad, entire discographies considered. I just give Neil the edge as I feel he had more great albums at his peak. Besides, I'm a bit biased to Neil Young, though I do love some Dylan.
Post by FuzzyWarbles on Jul 3, 2010 16:55:35 GMT -5
Wolf, take back what you said about Oh Mercy, the traditional covers albums, and everything from Time Out of Mind to Together Through Life. Or else I'll come find you
Harmonies? Come on, man, listen to The Basement Tapes (or even Nashville Skyline) and tell me Dylan (or The Band, for that matter) wasn't just keen on harmonies, he was a MASTER of harmonies.
Post by awolfatthedoor on Jul 3, 2010 17:50:43 GMT -5
Oh I wasn't saying all of those are bad. I've only listened to Modern Times and Love and Theft more than once, but a bunch of the others got bad reviews and have bad scores on RYM. I'm definitely going to go through and listen to them all at some point.
I feel like a traitor for saying this, since Bob Dylan's been one of my favorite artists since I was six years old... but I'm going to have to give it to Neil on this one. His style is more diverse and his output has generally been more consistent. I love 'em both, though.
Post by SouthGA_Festival Machine on Jul 3, 2010 21:26:58 GMT -5
I love Neil, but can't put anyone over Dylan, for his career output. But I've seen him three times, and never seen Neil, so there's no contest over which I want back at Roo ASAP.
So there weren't a few stinkers in Dylan's catalog?
1980 Saved 1981 Shot of Love 1983 Infidels 1984 Real Live 1985 Empire Burlesque 1986 Knocked Out Loaded 1988 Down in the Groove 1989 Oh Mercy 1990 Under the Red Sky 1992 Good as I Been to You 1993 World Gone Wrong 1997 Time Out of Mind 2001 "Love and Theft" 2006 Modern Times 2009 Together Through Life 2009 Christmas in the Heart
Ill be frank. I have seen Dylan probably about a dozen times over the years, with the last being 2004. I can't speak for his show these days but I can say that up till then it was hit or miss. About 50% of the time he put on a show. One of those your heart stopped in mid beat and it was hard to swallow perfomances. The other 50% of the time he acted as if he was living on his name. The last time I saw him was one of the worst concerts I have ever attended, performance wise. I had front row center seats and he was so bad that I left after 7 songs. The only way that I'd go back to see Dylan is if he played where I was living AND I got a free ticket. I've seen Neil about the same number of times. Both solo and with CH. I can say this. I have never walked out of a NY show.
Dylan will always be the best song writer, but his performances will always leave you heart broken. Young will leave you wanting more.
I honestly don't think neil can be a sunday headliner, unless they give at least one late night stage show to a jam act (sci, furthur, gov't mule, etc.) and have a similar act close out the which stage. and I don't think they would do NY/U2/jam act, because they aren't hitting ANY of the kiddies.
I honestly don't think neil can be a sunday headliner, unless they give at least one late night stage show to a jam act (sci, furthur, gov't mule, etc.) and have a similar act close out the which stage. and I don't think they would do NY/U2/jam act, because they aren't hitting ANY of the kiddies.
Yea that's why I put Neil there, I really don't think they can put him on Friday unless Radiohead headlines Saturday (which I don't really see happening.) If it is U2, they need that one alternative headliner on for Friday.
I think a lot of jam fans would be as happy if not more so with Neil than Dave this year. Plus I think Furthur will get a Friday night late-night on Which and Gov't Mule will get a tent-late night on Saturday. I also expect STS9 to get a day-time which stage slot.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Jul 28, 2010 9:46:31 GMT -5
sorry if this has been posted.
After keeping them in the vaults for nearly 40 years, Neil Young is planning to issue four unreleased albums. Homegrown, Oceanside-Countryside and Chrome Dreams will be released as part of the singer's Archives Volume 2. Young will also unveil the Crazy Horse live album Odeon-Budokan Live, recorded in Japan and London in 1976.
Neil Young's first Archives collection, released last year, was a behemoth: 10 Blu-ray discs, 137 tracks, plus films, photos, lyrics and articles from 1963-72. But there's much more in the library. According to Young's manager, Elliot Roberts, there are plans for five volumes of Archives, with a "two- or three-year bridge" between each release. "We have people working on it full-time," he told Sound and Vision last year.
Young's website promises "even more content" for Volume 2. Homegrown, "a very down album", was dropped to make way for 1975's Tonight's the Night. Chrome Dreams, from 1977, was shelved in favour of American Stars 'n Bars. Although Young recently championed Blu-ray, Shakey's site now says it's "time to get your new phonograph player". All four unreleased LPs will initially be issued "[on] vinyl, from analogue masters, as they were originally created for that format"
I'd like my first post to be in favor of Neil playing on the farm in 2011. I saw him in 2007 for his Chrome Dreams II tour. It was a great show. He rocked the Fox Theater so hard that old confetti fell from the ceiling.