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Post by Hipster Doofus on Feb 20, 2007 16:16:00 GMT -5
okcomputer said:
deathreau said:
Some Tool lyrics are very deep and do a great job of expressing frustration with today's society. Some lyrics are overtly negative and scarcastic just for the fuck of it. Sometimes you have to read between the lines.
Have you ever read the lyrics to 'Stinkfist'? Disgusting... lol.
I guess, if you read deeply into it, the lyrics are about people always pushing the limits as far as they will go, but it is a pretty vivid example.
Oh, now see, I always thought that was just about the joys of fisting. Oh well, he's right either way
Post by okcomputer on Feb 20, 2007 18:36:21 GMT -5
deathreau said:
okcomputer said:
Have you ever read the lyrics to 'Stinkfist'? Disgusting... lol.
I guess, if you read deeply into it, the lyrics are about people always pushing the limits as far as they will go, but it is a pretty vivid example.
Oh, now see, I always thought that was just about the joys of fisting. Oh well, he's right either way
"Elbow deep inside the borderline. Show me that you love me and that we belong together. Shoulder deep within the borderline. Relax. turn around and take my hand."
*i like coconuts, you can break them open they smell like ladies lyin in the sun** *Hell I don't even know where I am** *for now I must sit here and ponder the yonder: The herbivores did well cause their food didn't never run** *We listen, if it feels good We shake** *You made a big impression for a girl of your size, Now I can't get by without you and your big brown eyes.**
Post by ziggyandthemonkeys on Feb 20, 2007 19:30:07 GMT -5
Tool + bonnaroo = me not being able to smile for the rest of the night because of the shiteating grin i'll have the whole time. ;D (Something like that)
"They won't break me because the desire for freedom, and the freedom of the Irish people, is in my heart. The day will dawn when all the people of Ireland will have the desire for freedom to show. It is then that we will see the rising of the moon."
*i like coconuts, you can break them open they smell like ladies lyin in the sun** *Hell I don't even know where I am** *for now I must sit here and ponder the yonder: The herbivores did well cause their food didn't never run** *We listen, if it feels good We shake** *You made a big impression for a girl of your size, Now I can't get by without you and your big brown eyes.**
Oh, now see, I always thought that was just about the joys of fisting. Oh well, he's right either way
"Elbow deep inside the borderline. Show me that you love me and that we belong together. Shoulder deep within the borderline. Relax. turn around and take my hand."
Actually that song is about how desensitized society has become, and that only something extreme (fisting is only a metaphor here) can remind them of what it's like to be really moved. More brilliant social commentary from Maynard.
I'm still undecided on how the Bonnaroo show will go. There are things that could take it either way, I'm curious to see how it all comes together.
First off, since the dissapointment of Tom Petty not playing anywhere near his time spot's length, I don't think Bonnaroo is going to list "Tool: 8:30-12:00." I doubt they'll book them for an hour and a half set time, so I think they'll probably play 8:30 to 10:30 or maybe even 8:30 to 11. That alone could make it a special show, given their usual sets are more like an hour and a half.
Also in favor of a positive experience, they'll probably have the most chilled out, relaxed crowd they've had at just about any performance in their history. When they played Coachella the meathead element wasn't that big, but it was definitely much bigger than it will be at Bonnaroo. To someone attracted solely to heavier music who doesn't see depth in Tool, I don't think the Bonnaroo lineup is that appealing. Since there aren't one day passes, and with a nationwide tour, this isn't really a big draw for someone only interested in Tool. If they enjoy the crowd's vibe, I think the show could very much come off like Radiohead last year.
However, as always it could go off in a few ways, though I think it's less likely it will go wrong than right. If Maynard is really outspoken against drugs, then smelling something from the crowd may bother him, throw him off etc. I really doubt it's that big of a deal, but last time I saw Guster at ACL they commented on smelling weed in the crowd, so it's not like they can't tell. Also, they really don't like flash photography, and at a festival they can't control that much. I hope that Maynard mans up and doesn't let it bother him, but there is a chance he could become angry/whatever.
I don't think there will be any problem with him criticizing hippies or anything, like you feared Dude. At Coachella he came out and said "Hello hippies. I can smell the patchouli" or something, I think it's more of a humorous comment about festival-goers than actual criticism.
Post by Hipster Doofus on Feb 26, 2007 11:50:52 GMT -5
isaac said:
However, as always it could go off in a few ways, though I think it's less likely it will go wrong than right. If Maynard is really outspoken against drugs, then smelling something from the crowd may bother him, throw him off etc.
Also, they really don't like flash photography, and at a festival they can't control that much. I hope that Maynard mans up and doesn't let it bother him, but there is a chance he could become angry/whatever.
Post by Sköldpadda on Feb 26, 2007 12:27:14 GMT -5
deathreau said:
isaac said:
However, as always it could go off in a few ways, though I think it's less likely it will go wrong than right. If Maynard is really outspoken against drugs, then smelling something from the crowd may bother him, throw him off etc.
Umm, I'm not too worried about this.
Yeah, if you just listen to Third Eye, on Aenima, or check out interviews where he talks about the meaning of the name "Tool," it's pretty clear that he doesn't have anything against drugs. Luckily, this won't be an issue anyway, because nobody does those at Bonnaroo.
Post by melikecheese on Feb 26, 2007 13:20:31 GMT -5
It amazes me there is such a push to have Mars Volta added but Tool seems to be wrong for the fest. If so many people can claim to love Mars Volta I dont see how Tool is a problem. Superfly probably said hey people loved MArs Volta, lets get another "darker" band to headline!
Post by trippindaisy on Feb 26, 2007 13:24:42 GMT -5
melikecheese said:
It amazes me there is such a push to have Mars Volta added but Tool seems to be wrong for the fest. If so many people can claim to love Mars Volta I dont see how Tool is a problem. Superfly probably said hey people loved MArs Volta, lets get another "darker" band to headline!
Hehe yeah I have thought the same thing, but oh well. I am just happy Tool are playing and all of those people who discussed it previously and said Superfly would never book a band like Tool were wrong.
I've never seen TOOL live, but I downloaded a bootleg video of their performance in Kansas City last year, seems pretty cool. man I'm gonna trip out this year...
Post by okcomputer on Feb 26, 2007 14:19:16 GMT -5
oopsikillednana said:
deathreau said:
Umm, I'm not too worried about this.
Yeah, if you just listen to Third Eye, on Aenima, or check out interviews where he talks about the meaning of the name "Tool," it's pretty clear that he doesn't have anything against drugs. Luckily, this won't be an issue anyway, because nobody does those at Bonnaroo.
If you listen to "H", it is pretty clear that some or all of the members of Tool were serious addicts at some point. I'm thinking Maynard had to have a bout with the boy. You don't write lyrics that 'on point' without personal experience.
Post by ziggyandthemonkeys on Feb 26, 2007 16:28:51 GMT -5
I actually think The Mars Volta is darker then tool. I think a lot of people dont pay much attention to their lyrics, since the musics so awesome, but its pretty dark stuff. That said, i love both bands and am thrilled to see either at the roo, hopefully tmv are added.
Post by Sköldpadda on Feb 26, 2007 18:23:29 GMT -5
Yeah, lyrically, The Mars Volta definitely is a lot darker than Tool. Tool doesn't really even write about evil people or things, it's mostly just crazy introspective stuff. If you listen to Frances the Mute, that stuff is just really dark. Tool's lyrics are a little more comprehensible, but The Mars Volta is much darker, even though people don't understand it. Especially the lyrics in Spanish. Those are really heavy.
tool's music is intense. it is an experience more than it is just listening to music. they want to blow your mind. they want to expand it. they want everyone to rise up (including themselves of course) to a higher plane of existance, where everyone's mind is completely blown. im so excited to see them and for all those who join in the ride that is tool. if people freak out, that is their own fault. know your body, know your mind, know your limits. some people have to learn that the hard way (wouldnt wish it on anyone) but people have to be responsible for what they do with their body/mind. i personally hope they bring everything they got and then some. the intensity of the experience is what makes tool, tool. the visuals, the trance psychadelic drumming, tons of feedback, maynards great voice/lyrics will be an absolutely amazing experience. tool can also be very spiritual, thats why i hope they bring some of lateralus to the roo. i hope they send all of us on a mind expanding spiritual journey that weaves us through the fabric of reality.
^needless to say im a huge fan ;D^
i am not though, a meathead, and i am confident there will not be a mosh at roo. tool wont want a mosh, neither will any of us.
i really hope they embrace the crowd and the spirit of the festival. headliners have the possibility of being historic performers because of that opportunity to reach out to 70,000 fans at once. as solid as Tom Petty can play a show, the heart of a true festival performance isn't there. tool should expand their setlist to expand our minds. a solid three hours could lead to a lot of magic. my favorite performances in life thus far have been ones that have raged long
I would like to correct a common misconception seen throughout this thread. Tool fans (real Tool fans) do not mosh at Tool concerts. "Metalheads" are not typically Tool fans, and if they are (I guess this is how I am anyway) they convert to something else while Tool is playing. Moshing is not appreciated at Tool shows, so much infact that the last guy I witnessed that attempted to start moshing, was laid out by the fist of the guy who warned him like 6 times to quit it.
"They won't break me because the desire for freedom, and the freedom of the Irish people, is in my heart. The day will dawn when all the people of Ireland will have the desire for freedom to show. It is then that we will see the rising of the moon."
im with you all the way. more often than not its the non-headliners that embrace these kinds of settings and play monumental, full of hear/soul shows and its easy for a big name play it with less heart and enthusiasm. im praying for an extended set as well. i hope they embrace roo. they did headline coachella last year , they played just under a 2 hr set. but coach and roo are 2 completely different atmosperes and i hope they feed off of the roo vibe. it is tool, and with them, you never know what could happen...
I would like to correct a common misconception seen throughout this thread. Tool fans (real Tool fans) do not mosh at Tool concerts. "Metalheads" are not typically Tool fans, and if they are (I guess this is how I am anyway) they convert to something else while Tool is playing. Moshing is not appreciated at Tool shows, so much infact that the last guy I witnessed that attempted to start moshing, was laid out by the fist of the guy who warned him like 6 times to quit it.
THANK YOU FOR POSTING THAT! karma for you. i think alot of people have the wrong idea about tool. real tool fans see moshing as a disgrace to the music. a real tool fan will be too absorbed in the music to even think about anything else, let alone pointless voilence.
