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Post by Maᴙket Down on Jan 20, 2023 12:41:32 GMT -5
I'd honestly love to have children, but the world we live in isn't great and doesn't appear to be getting better. I like the idea of raising a kid who isn't a shithead, but I'd also feel bad bringing a kid into a world full of shitheads where they would be outnumbered. Maybe adoption, I consider that having a child just as much as any other method.
nobody needs to justify their reasons not to have kids. I do think it's kinda weird when someone is in a position where they can support, have and want kids but don't because of the world being fucked up instead of being like... I'm dope, my people are dope, my kid is gonna be awesome and the world is gonna be a better place because of their existence.
it really isn't weird. if someone has a ton of anxiety about the state of the world/the climate crisis/the shit that's coming down the pipe in the coming decades, then that anxiety could very well transfer to a not particularly great parenting experience - for them or the kid(s).
sorta surprised at how many people here on inforoo dot com are condemning this line of reasoning for not wanting to birth children into the world right now.
struggling with anxiety about it I get. It being the logical endpoint when everything else is in good shape is what I don't get. It's just a very different worldview from what I have. Not trying to condemn... don't really get it, and that's fine.
it really isn't weird. if someone has a ton of anxiety about the state of the world/the climate crisis/the shit that's coming down the pipe in the coming decades, then that anxiety could very well transfer to a not particularly great parenting experience - for them or the kid(s).
sorta surprised at how many people here on inforoo dot com are condemning this line of reasoning for not wanting to birth children into the world right now.
struggling with anxiety about it I get. It being the logical endpoint when everything else is in good shape is what I don't get. It's just a very different worldview from what I have. Not trying to condemn... don't really get it, and that's fine.
did you not know anyone that lost their ass during the financial collapse? Things aren’t guaranteed to stay in good shape for any of us. In all likelihood a good portion of us will get fucked over pretty bad in the coming decades.
Post by Whereispassionpit on Jan 20, 2023 13:11:13 GMT -5
Not wanting to have kids because you’re anxious about the future seems fine. Getting on a high horse about how it’s better for the environment like it’s composting or whatever is what’s weird to me
Not wanting to have kids because you’re anxious about the future seems fine. Getting on a high horse about how it’s better for the environment like it’s composting or whatever is what’s weird to me
this graph shows how many metric tons of CO2 you can avert by the various lifestyle choices
looks like a pretty reasonable, data-supported horse to be on, actually. and this is coming from someone who works in the enviro field and is very pro composting, using less planes/cars, and adopting plant based eating. but the numbers don't lie - it isn't even CLOSE.
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Not wanting to have kids because you’re anxious about the future seems fine. Getting on a high horse about how it’s better for the environment like it’s composting or whatever is what’s weird to me
this graph shows how many metric tons of CO2 you can avert by the various lifestyle choices
looks like a pretty reasonable, data-supported horse to be on, actually. and this is coming from someone who works in the enviro field and is very pro composting, using less planes/cars, and adopting plant based eating. but the numbers don't lie - it isn't even CLOSE.
struggling with anxiety about it I get. It being the logical endpoint when everything else is in good shape is what I don't get. It's just a very different worldview from what I have. Not trying to condemn... don't really get it, and that's fine.
did you not know anyone that lost their ass during the financial collapse? Things aren’t guaranteed to stay in good shape for any of us. In all likelihood a good portion of us will get fucked over pretty bad in the coming decades.
this graph shows how many metric tons of CO2 you can avert by the various lifestyle choices
looks like a pretty reasonable, data-supported horse to be on, actually. and this is coming from someone who works in the enviro field and is very pro composting, using less planes/cars, and adopting plant based eating. but the numbers don't lie - it isn't even CLOSE.
another graphic displaying the same concept:
My kids will fix global warming actually
~*completely ignoring the fact that you called this out as such a "weird high horse to be on" and saying it isn't good for the environment like composting is - while the data shows that it is literally the worst individual choice you can make for the climate*~
for people who feel it is their calling to have kids, then still go for it; i'm not saying you shouldn't. but similarly, people shouldn't keep claiming that the climate rationale is overblown, not a good or valid enough reason, etc.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Not wanting to have kids because you’re anxious about the future seems fine. Getting on a high horse about how it’s better for the environment like it’s composting or whatever is what’s weird to me
this graph shows how many metric tons of CO2 you can avert by the various lifestyle choices
looks like a pretty reasonable, data-supported horse to be on, actually. and this is coming from someone who works in the enviro field and is very pro composting, using less planes/cars, and adopting plant based eating. but the numbers don't lie - it isn't even CLOSE.
another graphic displaying the same concept:
this is obvi very similar proxy to "having one less human in the world" right?
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Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Post by man1cpixiedreamgirl on Jan 20, 2023 14:39:49 GMT -5
I think “rebelling” against leftist parents for girls is trickier, yes. No immediate “domestic terrorist incel” pipeline. I did a lot of drugs, that’s the most rebelling I got.
But from my imagination I can see being very pro-capitalist / “pick me” misogynist being a “I hate you feminist parents” backlash.
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Post by steponsampras on Jan 20, 2023 15:07:37 GMT -5
I decided to not have kids because, as someone who has never really had a lot of support from their family, I knew I'd want to be there for my kids through thick and thin. I would want to be there to guide and support them through both their childhood and their adult lives. And honestly, I just can't say that I have any faith in my ability to do that faced with what I've experienced over the last few years. I don't know how to guide myself, much less others, in how to respond to constant environmental disasters that makes your home unlivable, heat waves so intense you can only go outside during the night and early morning, political unrest, unpredictable fluctuations in the cost of living, non-existent affordable housing options, and pandemics that kill millions and leave us disconnected and depressed. You have a good pandemic? I sure didn't.
These aren't things that are just somewhere out there in our future - people are already struggling with these. I've struggled with some of these things. If all this seems far removed from your life, that could be because you are in a position to have a pretty well-paying job or substantial financial support from family, benefit from social privileges, and/or live in a location that hasn't yet experienced many environmental disasters. What if that changes? I feel like I owe it to any kids I'd have to wrestle with that question - what happens when things fall apart? Can we as family (however one defines that) pick up the pieces? I just don't feel confident enough that I can begin to answer that question.
what happens when things fall apart? Can we as family (however one defines that) pick up the pieces? I just don't feel confident enough that I can begin to answer that question.
I lost my dad at an early age, and leaving my children early is one of my largest fears in my potential decision to have them in the future. I've had 14 years to think about that loss since it happened, and I can honestly say that dealing with the loss of my father made me a more compassionate, caring person who is prepared for the things the world has to offer. On the other hand, it (and other traumas) also led me down a road of mental health issues that ended me up in inpatient treatment.
When things fall apart, you're forced to deal with them. I know my father wouldn't have wanted me to deal with any of the things I had to in the wake of his absence, but it also gives me a standard to live up to. I want to grow up to be a man he'd be proud of, and I want to raise kids that I can tell about him. He had a kind word for everyone, a laugh that lit up a room, and would give the shirt off his back for someone in need.
If you can be that kind of role model to someone, it never goes away. It doesn't matter what happens to you or when, as long as you can tell yourself you're gonna put your best foot forward when it does.
I think “rebelling” against leftist parents for girls is trickier, yes. No immediate “domestic terrorist incel” pipeline. I did a lot of drugs, that’s the most rebelling I got.
But from my imagination I can see being very pro-capitalist / “pick me” misogynist being a “I hate you feminist parents” backlash.
My parents wanted me to take time off, make some cash and then see the world. Once I was done travelling I could go to college and get a trade. I said "no way! I'm not doing what you tell me"
Instead I fucked off to cold AF Northern Ontario to pursue my English major at University. Hated it. Dropped out. Still paying off student loans for that.
Eventually did a bunch of travelling and went back to college to be a nurse.
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