Whether it's your first Bonnaroo or you’re a music festival veteran, we welcome you to Inforoo.
Here you'll find info about artists, rumors, camping tips, and the infamous Roo Clues. Have a look around then create an account and join in the fun. See you at Bonnaroo!!
Emotional abuse IS abuse, gtfo with this "millennial" nonsense. That's just what people say who want an excuse for being shitty people. God forbid people don't tolerate emotional abuse and controlling behavior anymore.
Nonsense, slapping the "abuse" label on any level of disagreement or any power struggle within a relationship is ridiculous.
Emotional abuse IS abuse, gtfo with this "millennial" nonsense. That's just what people say who want an excuse for being shitty people. God forbid people don't tolerate emotional abuse and controlling behavior anymore.
Nonsense, slapping the "abuse" label on any level of disagreement or any power struggle within a relationship is ridiculous.
"abuse" isn't a fucking label. Its definition is "treat (a person or an animal) with cruelty or violence, especially regularly or repeatedly."
That's exactly what he did. He treated people with cruelty repeatedly. It's the definition of hte word.
And you keep moving the goalposts. What he's being accused of isn't just a "disagreement" or "power struggle within a relationship".
Emotional abuse IS abuse, gtfo with this "millennial" nonsense. That's just what people say who want an excuse for being shitty people. God forbid people don't tolerate emotional abuse and controlling behavior anymore.
Nonsense, slapping the "abuse" label on any level of disagreement or any power struggle within a relationship is ridiculous.
NO ONE IS SAYING THAT. Holy shit.
Do you not understand the difference between fighting over a remote and controlling someone’s career or saying you’re going to kill yourself to get your way? Don’t be a fucking troll
Nonsense, slapping the "abuse" label on any level of disagreement or any power struggle within a relationship is ridiculous.
"abuse" isn't a fucking label. Its definition is "treat (a person or an animal) with cruelty or violence, especially regularly or repeatedly."
That's exactly what he did. He treated people with cruelty repeatedly. It's the definition of hte word.
And you keep moving the goalposts. What he's being accused of isn't just a "disagreement" or "power struggle within a relationship".
He should be held accountable for the criminal behavior involving the underage girl and if he exposed himself in situations where that was neither invited nor welcomed. The rest of it is unfortunate, but nothing for the New York Times to concern itself with.
Last Edit: Feb 18, 2019 13:33:08 GMT -5 by tw12 - Back to Top
"abuse" isn't a fucking label. Its definition is "treat (a person or an animal) with cruelty or violence, especially regularly or repeatedly."
That's exactly what he did. He treated people with cruelty repeatedly. It's the definition of hte word.
And you keep moving the goalposts. What he's being accused of isn't just a "disagreement" or "power struggle within a relationship".
He should be held accountable for the criminal behavior involving the underage girl and if he exposed himself in situations where that was neither invited nor welcomed. The rest of it is unfortunate, but nothing for the New York Times to concern itself with.
Two comedians who dated Ryan Adams talk about their experiences. That portion of the conversation starts around the 23 minute mark.
This was posted a couple of weeks ago, so it doesn't address the recent allegations. Their tweets from late last week make clear that the unnamed musician they discuss in the podcast episode is Ryan Adams.
Two comedians who dated Ryan Adams talk about their experiences. That portion of the conversation starts around the 23 minute mark.
This was posted a couple of weeks ago, so it doesn't address the recent allegations. Their tweets from late last week make clear that the unnamed musician they discuss in the podcast episode is Ryan Adams.
"He said 'I was writing a song for you but then didn't because you told me not to come see you'"
His tons of compliments and saying I love you so early show how he's being manipulative.
She's clearly saying she was emotionally abused by him and his behavior. But you would just classify it as "millennial abuse" and say it was a bad relationship.
Also someone with Ryan tried to get her to take down the episode....so trying to silence the victim of his abuse.
Two comedians who dated Ryan Adams talk about their experiences. That portion of the conversation starts around the 23 minute mark.
This was posted a couple of weeks ago, so it doesn't address the recent allegations. Their tweets from late last week make clear that the unnamed musician they discuss in the podcast episode is Ryan Adams.
"He said 'I was writing a song for you but then didn't because you told me not to come see you'"
His tons of compliments and saying I love you so early show how he's being manipulative.
She's clearly saying she was emotionally abused by him and his behavior. But you would just classify it as "millennial abuse" and say it was a bad relationship.
Also someone with Ryan tried to get her to take down the episode....so trying to silence the victim of his abuse.
I'm reading a lot of their comments as speaking more to RA's emotional immaturity and not that they're feeling like victims of abuse. Telling a girl that you love her when you barely know her isn't a sign of abuse or manipulation; it's what boys do in middle school when they get their first crush on a girl and haven't yet learned to distinguish between attraction and real human interaction. That's understandable behavior for a 12 year old boy, but a sign of extreme immaturity in an adult man.
Complimenting someone you find attractive and would like to date is a way of signaling interest and seeing if they reciprocate. It's far less manipulative than pretending to be uninterested in order to play "hard to get" when you actually are interested.
"He said 'I was writing a song for you but then didn't because you told me not to come see you'"
His tons of compliments and saying I love you so early show how he's being manipulative.
She's clearly saying she was emotionally abused by him and his behavior. But you would just classify it as "millennial abuse" and say it was a bad relationship.
Also someone with Ryan tried to get her to take down the episode....so trying to silence the victim of his abuse.
I'm reading a lot of their comments as speaking more to RA's emotional immaturity and not that they're feeling like victims of abuse. Telling a girl that you love her when you barely know her isn't a sign of abuse or manipulation; it's what boys do in middle school when they get their first crush on a girl and haven't yet learned to distinguish between attraction and real human interaction. That's understandable behavior for a 12 year old boy, but a sign of extreme immaturity in an adult man.
Complimenting someone you find attractive and would like to date is a way of signaling interest and seeing if they reciprocate. It's far less manipulative than pretending to be uninterested in order to play "hard to get" when you actually are interested.
I mean, how much more clear can she be about his behavior?
and not that they're feeling like victims of abuse
I mean....
I thought it was weird you posted this because the person who hosts the podcast is clear that she was one of many women who were emotionally abused and manipulated by him. The podcast doesn't really support your argument. I thought you were maybe starting to see the light....but nah.
The only kind of person that would still be defending RA so hard after all the evidence shown is someone that wants to justify his behavior because they do the same kind of things.
The only kind of person that would still be defending RA so hard after all the evidence shown is someone that wants to justify his behavior because they do the same kind of things.
That's offensive AF. My skin in the game, so to speak, is that I'm sick and tired of multiple standards applied to male behavior depending upon how close to the archetypal All-American male a particular individual happens to be.
You don't need to be a criminal to be angry about the way that people of color are disproportionately incarcerated in the U.S. You don't need to be abusive to women to think that there's something inherently unjust about the way that public outrage and prosecutorial fervor around #MeToo is so selective.
I'm reading a lot of their comments as speaking more to RA's emotional immaturity and not that they're feeling like victims of abuse. Telling a girl that you love her when you barely know her isn't a sign of abuse or manipulation; it's what boys do in middle school when they get their first crush on a girl and haven't yet learned to distinguish between attraction and real human interaction. That's understandable behavior for a 12 year old boy, but a sign of extreme immaturity in an adult man.
Complimenting someone you find attractive and would like to date is a way of signaling interest and seeing if they reciprocate. It's far less manipulative than pretending to be uninterested in order to play "hard to get" when you actually are interested.
I mean, how much more clear can she be about his behavior?
and not that they're feeling like victims of abuse
I mean....
I thought it was weird you posted this because the person who hosts the podcast is clear that she was one of many women who were emotionally abused and manipulated by him. The podcast doesn't really support your argument. I thought you were maybe starting to see the light....but nah.
Did you actually read her words? She mentioned that she defended him on her podcast. She may be backtracking from the podcast content, in light of last week's story.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Feb 18, 2019 19:00:56 GMT -5
She's saying she shouldn't have defended his behavior and that he's emotionally abusive and she's baffled and embarrassed by it. I don't think she's backtracking but understanding it wasn't just a bad relationship (like you so desperately want people to believe) but that this guy has a clear pattern/gameplan when it comes to manipulating women. I don't see how you can view her tweets and think anything else.
She's saying she shouldn't have defended his behavior and that he's emotionally abusive and she's baffled and embarrassed by it. I don't think she's backtracking but understanding it wasn't just a bad relationship (like you so desperately want people to believe) but that this guy has a clear pattern/gameplan when it comes to manipulating women. I don't see how you can view her tweets and think anything else.
I'm referring to the podcast content posted before the article ran, not those more recent tweets.
You talk about a game plan, but that's what everyone does in what used to be called courting, whether it's the high school quarterback wearing his letter jacket, dressing up in your finest clothes before a night on the town, or telling someone that you wrote a song about them. If you're equating the attempt to impress someone you're attracted to with manipulation and abuse, you've got a remarkably broad definition of manipulation and abuse.
Yes, Ryan Adams played the sensitive singer/songwriter card to get women, but everyone plays the hand they're dealt.
Last Edit: Feb 18, 2019 19:17:24 GMT -5 by tw12 - Back to Top
She's saying she shouldn't have defended his behavior and that he's emotionally abusive and she's baffled and embarrassed by it. I don't think she's backtracking but understanding it wasn't just a bad relationship (like you so desperately want people to believe) but that this guy has a clear pattern/gameplan when it comes to manipulating women. I don't see how you can view her tweets and think anything else.
I'm referring to the podcast content posted before the article ran, not those more recent tweets.
You talk about a game plan, but that's what everyone does in what used to be called courting, whether it's the high school quarterback wearing his letter jacket, dressing up in your finest clothes before a night on the town, or telling someone that you wrote a song about them. If you're equating the attempt to impress someone you're attracted to with manipulation and abuse, you've got a remarkably broad definition of manipulation and abuse.
Yes, Ryan Adams played the sensitive singer/songwriter card to get women, but everyone plays the hand they're dealt.
You're really trying to downplay just how manipulative he is and the pain these women have felt. I'm done discussing this with you because you're just trying to make his behavior seem normal. Normal relationships don't have you threatening suicide if your partner won't leave a social situation to have phone sex with you. Normal relationships don't see a pattern of controlling, manipulation, and isolating them from others.
Two additional female singer-songwriters, who declined to be identified for fear of retribution, described a similar pattern of behavior from Adams: raving about their work and offering tour spots amid aggressive romantic pursuit, followed by harassing messages and threats of professional retaliation when the relationships did not progress as he wanted.
Yea, that's just like courting was for me in high school. Dangle some big opportunity and flower someone with compliments but when they don't fuck me I would harass them and threaten their careers. Totally the same thing as telling a girl she's pretty or giving her my letter jacket.
The only kind of person that would still be defending RA so hard after all the evidence shown is someone that wants to justify his behavior because they do the same kind of things.
That's offensive AF. My skin in the game, so to speak, is that I'm sick and tired of multiple standards applied to male behavior depending upon how close to the archetypal All-American male a particular individual happens to be.
You don't need to be a criminal to be angry about the way that people of color are disproportionately incarcerated in the U.S. You don't need to be abusive to women to think that there's something inherently unjust about the way that public outrage and prosecutorial fervor around #MeToo is so selective.
He sexually groomed a child. He used the threat of suicide to isolate and control his partners. He made professional offers to women but then later made those offers dependent on sex. Many women are now coming out saying he used the same isolation and control tactics with them. What more is there to consider? Why is this not worthy of an exposé?
These types of control are standard parts of what's considered domestic violence. It's not some new millennial thing. I'll admit I used to only conceive of DV as physical violence between partners. I just didn't think about it much. Then I heard stories/dated a DV counselor/educated myself. It's pretty horrific once you learn the scope. I'd suggest you try expand your horizons too. Maybe start here: www.thehotline.org/is-this-abuse/abuse-defined/
Yes, my past employer and boss was just looking for a night out on the town when he grabbed me by the waist, gave me a tight squeeze and a pat on the ass and said I would probably be a good lay. I can assure you, he was just playing the hand he was dealt.
Yes, my past employer and boss was just looking for a night out on the town when he grabbed me by the waist, gave me a tight squeeze and a pat on the ass and said I would probably be a good lay. I can assure you, he was just playing the hand he was dealt.
I was referring to RA telling the women on the podcast that he had written songs for them, I'm not referring to assault.
You don't need to be abusive to women to think that there's something inherently unjust about the way that public outrage and prosecutorial fervor around #MeToo is so selective.
This is some powerful divorced dad energy going on right now.