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Post by Whereispassionpit on Aug 15, 2014 11:56:02 GMT -5
I think the people that really get hooked on Breaking Bad are those that feel sympathetic towards Walt for a while. If you turn against him early you probably won't enjoy the show as much. Even when I really disliked him at the end there was always a small part of me that wanted him to be victorious.
At first I liked Walt and sympathized with a seemingly good man being put in a terrible position, while seeing Jesse as the iredeemable screw up doing bad things for no reason. As the show moved on I grew to sympathize more with Jesse because I saw how naive he was and his constant attempts to achieve redemption. Meanwhile Walt seemed to lose all sense of a moral compass (whether he ever had one to begin with is up for debate; I rewatch every Sunday just to see the earlier episodes and try to answer that question) and relish in his misdeeds.
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I think the people that really get hooked on Breaking Bad are those that feel sympathetic towards Walt for a while. If you turn against him early you probably won't enjoy the show as much. Even when I really disliked him at the end there was always a small part of me that wanted him to be victorious.
I think this is the problem with binge watching this particular series. There is a whole lotta awful that Walter does, but when you watched it as it aired you had a week to kinda think about what he did and why he did it. Then when it was time for the new episode you've had some time to let it all resonate and think of different outcomes and all that. I've always thought that binge watching BB for the first time would be really stressful because its just one thing after another with no breaks and no time to let things sink in..
I distinctly remember several times throughout the series where I felt exhausted when the episode was over because I had been up pacing or holding my breath or something... and after I would just sit and talk with my boyfriend about what had just happened and analyze everything. God I miss Breaking Bad....
The only thing I didn't like about the show is it didn't show enough of how they were creating such a destructive product. They showed meth addicts on occasion, but you weren't really confronted with the fact that they were making a fortune off of destroying lives. If they had Jesse's teeth or facial features gradually getting more disfigured (like I think Vince Gilligan has said he wishes he had done) I think that would've satisfied that itch.
At first I liked Walt and sympathized with a seemingly good man being put in a terrible position, while seeing Jesse as the iredeemable screw up doing bad things for no reason. As the show moved on I grew to sympathize more with Jesse because I saw how naive he was and his constant attempts to achieve redemption. Meanwhile Walt seemed to lose all sense of a moral compass (whether he ever had one to begin with is up for debate; I rewatch every Sunday just to see the earlier episodes and try to answer that question) and relish in his misdeeds.
That's really what the show it about, a good guy breaking bad. The show begins with Walter White, but by the end there is only Heisenberg left.
I haven't quite finished watching the Sopranos yet (Season 5), but I'm pretty confident it's going to surpass the Wire as the best TV series I've seen.
I absolutely love The Sopranos. I'm on my third time through it (Season 2) cause my wife has never seen it before. I've only seen bits and pieces of The Wire, that's the next thing to remedy. But I can't imagine it surpassing the Sopranos in my eyes, just for the emotional connection I've built with the characters over the years.
Plus James Gandolfini, in my opinion, is the father of Walter White and Don Draper and I prefer him to both. The depth of his character is unparalleled, and the further you get in to the series, the audience can practically read his mind with how well you come to know him.
We just finished our second time watching The Sopranos (the first time being when it originally aired), and are now on our second viewing of The Wire (yay for Amazon Prime adding so many of the HBO shows). We are just finishing Season 1 of The Wire, but as of now, I think The Sopranos was much more compelling storywise.
Also, for any who loved The Wire, I recommend watching Cedar Rapids sometime. I so love Isiah Whitlock, Jr. in that movie.
My boss just walked up behind me while I was watching this and gave me the biggest "You're a fucking douchebag" look ever. I tried to explain it was a FUNNY cat video but he just walked away shaking his head.
I absolutely love The Sopranos. I'm on my third time through it (Season 2) cause my wife has never seen it before. I've only seen bits and pieces of The Wire, that's the next thing to remedy. But I can't imagine it surpassing the Sopranos in my eyes, just for the emotional connection I've built with the characters over the years.
Plus James Gandolfini, in my opinion, is the father of Walter White and Don Draper and I prefer him to both. The depth of his character is unparalleled, and the further you get in to the series, the audience can practically read his mind with how well you come to know him.
We just finished our second time watching The Sopranos (the first time being when it originally aired), and are now on our second viewing of The Wire (yay for Amazon Prime adding so many of the HBO shows). We are just finishing Season 1 of The Wire, but as of now, I think The Sopranos was much more compelling storywise.
I agree. The Wire had to re-train people how to watch a show and what the expectations should be. It was also a show with very little wasteful information. So many lines of dialogue are really important. The Sopranos was easier to jump into and definitely had a little more "instant gratification" than The Wire. Plus, while the actors on the Wire are fantastic it was more of an ensemble deal with some characters rotating in and out of importance while Sopranos had rich characters who stuck around and kept adding to the show.
Does anyone else have love for Six Feet Under? Definitely a contender for my favorite show ever.
It was a great one but I missed some seasons/episodes. I jumped in and out at times.
I'm a HUGE fan of Carnivale and Deadwood from HBO but those are more acquired tastes. Carnivale is like The Wire for mystical, good .vs. evil, carnival workers in the depression era in the sense that it's slow and builds to stuff but is so satisfying as you put the pieces together.
Deadwood is just a stone cold classic but the dialogue throws people off sometimes. It's like Shakespeare but with tons of cursing and vulgarity. But it sounds so eloquent.
So, all this craziness going on in Ferguson is sad, and despite the seemingly positive turn of events as of yesterday/today people are still very angry. I get that. 100%. But, what I don't get is how people generalize that negative opinion to videos that aren't negative at all. Below is a cute video of an officer engaging in a friend "dance off" with some kids. I thought the video was cute. I can see why people view it as a ploy to change the attitudes towards cops right now, and how that might anger them too. But the jokes in the comments are what is pissing me off. The very first comment I read was, "then he shot them." That's not cool. I don't know if its because of where I work and my interaction with officers and deputies on a daily basis, or if it's because my mom is a deputy too and I've grown up around law enforcement my entire life, but I know that firing your weapon is not something you just do. I know a deputy personally who had to shoot someone coming at him with knife and this person wasn't stopping. He ended up fatally shooting that person and it took a toll on him. I would say a small percent of people who are cops are power hungry assholes. In my department we have one. No one likes him because he's a try-hard and yet he doesn't respond to aide other deputies and officers when an officer in trouble tone goes out. Nobody likes that guy. But that is 1 dude out of around 150-200 deputies/officers on 3 shifts, more if you include all the special duties. I'm not saying anger isn't warranted, but I just hate when people take incidents like this and then put a blanket opinion on all law enforcement. I got an email at work today that new threats have been made to our deputies and that they should be extra alert. It also said that anyone walking in and out of the building in a uniform containing signs of law enforcement association (me) should be sure to be aware of your surroundings while coming and going.
I guess what I'm saying is that I don't get why people are hanging on to the negativity when they see videos like this one. It's nice to see something positive amidst all the negativity. I just don't get why people have to be so ugly about it.
So, all this craziness going on in Ferguson is sad, and despite the seemingly positive turn of events as of yesterday/today people are still very angry. I get that. 100%. But, what I don't get is how people generalize that negative opinion to videos that aren't negative at all. Below is a cute video of an officer engaging in a friend "dance off" with some kids. I thought the video was cute. I can see why people view it as a ploy to change the attitudes towards cops right now, and how that might anger them too. But the jokes in the comments are what is pissing me off. The very first comment I read was, "then he shot them." That's not cool.
Never read the comments. They are usually idiotic and come from a place of ignorance. Those people don't know anything about the real life implications or emotions involved in those situations.
Does anyone else have love for Six Feet Under? Definitely a contender for my favorite show ever.
It was a great one but I missed some seasons/episodes. I jumped in and out at times.
I'm a HUGE fan of Carnivale and Deadwood from HBO but those are more acquired tastes. Carnivale is like The Wire for mystical, good .vs. evil, carnival workers in the depression era in the sense that it's slow and builds to stuff but is so satisfying as you put the pieces together.
Deadwood is just a stone cold classic but the dialogue throws people off sometimes. It's like Shakespeare but with tons of cursing and vulgarity. But it sounds so eloquent.
Carnivale is one of the weirdest shows a I've ever watched. It's also one of the slowest. I'm about halfway through the second season and I don't know of I'll finish it.
It was a great one but I missed some seasons/episodes. I jumped in and out at times.
I'm a HUGE fan of Carnivale and Deadwood from HBO but those are more acquired tastes. Carnivale is like The Wire for mystical, good .vs. evil, carnival workers in the depression era in the sense that it's slow and builds to stuff but is so satisfying as you put the pieces together.
Deadwood is just a stone cold classic but the dialogue throws people off sometimes. It's like Shakespeare but with tons of cursing and vulgarity. But it sounds so eloquent.
Carnivale is one of the weirdest shows a I've ever watched. It's also one of the slowest. I'm about halfway through the second season and I don't know of I'll finish it.
Yeah I tried Carnivale when it started and just couldn't do it. I may try again someday.
Carnivale is one of the weirdest shows a I've ever watched. It's also one of the slowest. I'm about halfway through the second season and I don't know of I'll finish it.
Yeah I tried Carnivale when it started and just couldn't do it. I may try again someday.
It was a great one but I missed some seasons/episodes. I jumped in and out at times.
I'm a HUGE fan of Carnivale and Deadwood from HBO but those are more acquired tastes. Carnivale is like The Wire for mystical, good .vs. evil, carnival workers in the depression era in the sense that it's slow and builds to stuff but is so satisfying as you put the pieces together.
Deadwood is just a stone cold classic but the dialogue throws people off sometimes. It's like Shakespeare but with tons of cursing and vulgarity. But it sounds so eloquent.
Carnivale is one of the weirdest shows a I've ever watched. It's also one of the slowest. I'm about halfway through the second season and I don't know of I'll finish it.
Yea, it's tough because while it has a semi-satisfying conclusion you finally reach the point where you see where everything is going and it unfortunately was canned after that. The creator had 6 seasons worth of material in mind but couldn't keep going because it wasn't a huge success and cost a good amount of money.
It's definitely a bit slow but I feel like it's similar to the Wire because when you go back and re-watch it you understand so much more and every little thing stands out as something that you never would have picked up on originally. Brother Justin is an amazing character and when you get to the bottom of the whole good .vs. evil battle it gets epic. I suggest you read up on the mythology after finishing the second season as it gives you a greater appreciation of the show. The idea of the alpha and omega and there always being a creature of light who has to do battle with a creature of dark is pretty awesome and goes back a long ways.
Carnivale is one of the weirdest shows a I've ever watched. It's also one of the slowest. I'm about halfway through the second season and I don't know of I'll finish it.
Yeah I tried Carnivale when it started and just couldn't do it. I may try again someday.
It took me 3 times to finally stick with the Wire. I couldn't get past the first few episodes my first 2 times trying.
Carnivale is one of the weirdest shows a I've ever watched. It's also one of the slowest. I'm about halfway through the second season and I don't know of I'll finish it.
Yea, it's tough because while it has a semi-satisfying conclusion you finally reach the point where you see where everything is going and it unfortunately was canned after that. The creator had 6 seasons worth of material in mind but couldn't keep going because it wasn't a huge success and cost a good amount of money.
It's definitely a bit slow but I feel like it's similar to the Wire because when you go back and re-watch it you understand so much more and every little thing stands out as something that you never would have picked up on originally. Brother Justin is an amazing character and when you get to the bottom of the whole good .vs. evil battle it gets epic. I suggest you read up on the mythology after finishing the second season as it gives you a greater appreciation of the show. The idea of the alpha and omega and there always being a creature of light who has to do battle with a creature of dark is pretty awesome and goes back a long ways.
100% agree about picking up so much more the second time through. We bought Carnivale years ago, and have watched it several times (good grief, I think my last few posts begin to reveal the extent to which I spend a ridiculous amount of my life in front of the television). I get more from it every time. Whoever cast the show really did a great job too. I love Clancy Brown and Nick Stahl in those roles.
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