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I really hope not. Please god do not let that hack anywhere near the superjam.
Blasphemy! After seeing the White Stripes last year I'd call Jack one of the greatest guitar player/musicians I've ever seen live. Dude is incredible. I'm guessing you've never actually seen him perform?
I really hope not. Please god do not let that hack anywhere near the superjam.
Blasphemy! After seeing the White Stripes last year I'd call Jack one of the greatest guitar player/musicians I've ever seen live. Dude is incredible. I'm guessing you've never actually seen him perform?
Nope, and I probably never will. After hearing him trash SRV and say that he wasn't a good guitar player, it was enough for me to write him off as an idiot
Post by gOdWesSaTan on Mar 23, 2008 20:03:09 GMT -5
zepfan221 said:
sunnyd said:
Blasphemy! After seeing the White Stripes last year I'd call Jack one of the greatest guitar player/musicians I've ever seen live. Dude is incredible. I'm guessing you've never actually seen him perform?
Nope, and I probably never will. After hearing him trash SRV and say that he wasn't a good guitar player, it was enough for me to write him off as an idiot
Nope, and I probably never will. After hearing him trash SRV and say that he wasn't a good guitar player, it was enough for me to write him off as an idiot
do you have a link or something that shows this
It was in guitar world about 3-4 years ago, I'll see if i can pull it up. Can't find the original but i found the follow up:
GW: When Guitar World interviewed you in 2002, you suggested that Stevie Ray Vaughan and Jonny Lang were overrated as virtuosos because, after all, they were only playing the blues. Do you still hold to that?
White: Well, i didn't mean anything harmful about them. I think my point was that it's very easy to play solos in the blues and to become very proficient in a superficial way very quickly. It's very simple, and that's the point of the blues, which is great. That's why it's the most perfect form of music of all time, because anybody can get into it very quickly. It's just that i'm not really interested in wailing on the guitar and going off on tangents. If it means something, if it's purposeful, then yeah. It's just a different school of thought.... But I wasn't trying to put down Stevie Ray Vaughan. I liked him a lot when i was a teenager; I had his records.
It was in guitar world about 3-4 years ago, I'll see if i can pull it up. Can't find the original but i found the follow up:
GW: When Guitar World interviewed you in 2002, you suggested that Stevie Ray Vaughan and Jonny Lang were overrated as virtuosos because, after all, they were only playing the blues. Do you still hold to that?
White: Well, i didn't mean anything harmful about them. I think my point was that it's very easy to play solos in the blues and to become very proficient in a superficial way very quickly. It's very simple, and that's the point of the blues, which is great. That's why it's the most perfect form of music of all time, because anybody can get into it very quickly. It's just that i'm not really interested in wailing on the guitar and going off on tangents. If it means something, if it's purposeful, then yeah. It's just a different school of thought.... But I wasn't trying to put down Stevie Ray Vaughan. I liked him a lot when i was a teenager; I had his records.
See how he still puts down the blues as a whole?
No, I don't see how he puts down blues as a whole. He actually says "That's why it's the most perfect form of music of all time." I think he's just saying SRV was prone to some wankery...which I personally would agree with. Jack's appreciation for the blues is based more on the old school blues musicians like Son House, Robert Johnson, Howlin' Wolf, etc. rather than the bastardized version put forth by the likes of SRV, Jonny Lange, Kenny Wayne Shepard, etc.
GW: When Guitar World interviewed you in 2002, you suggested that Stevie Ray Vaughan and Jonny Lang were overrated as virtuosos because, after all, they were only playing the blues. Do you still hold to that?
White: Well, i didn't mean anything harmful about them. I think my point was that it's very easy to play solos in the blues and to become very proficient in a superficial way very quickly. It's very simple, and that's the point of the blues, which is great. That's why it's the most perfect form of music of all time, because anybody can get into it very quickly. It's just that i'm not really interested in wailing on the guitar and going off on tangents. If it means something, if it's purposeful, then yeah. It's just a different school of thought.... But I wasn't trying to put down Stevie Ray Vaughan. I liked him a lot when i was a teenager; I had his records.
See how he still puts down the blues as a whole?
He calls blues "the most perfect form of music of all time," he doesn't down it. Besides, he's right. It is easy to play basic blues with pentatonic scales.
Post by BonnarooDetective on Mar 24, 2008 9:03:19 GMT -5
zepfan221 said:
wessew87 said:
do you have a link or something that shows this
It was in guitar world about 3-4 years ago, I'll see if i can pull it up. Can't find the original but i found the follow up:
GW: When Guitar World interviewed you in 2002, you suggested that Stevie Ray Vaughan and Jonny Lang were overrated as virtuosos because, after all, they were only playing the blues. Do you still hold to that?
White: Well, i didn't mean anything harmful about them. I think my point was that it's very easy to play solos in the blues and to become very proficient in a superficial way very quickly. It's very simple, and that's the point of the blues, which is great. That's why it's the most perfect form of music of all time, because anybody can get into it very quickly. It's just that i'm not really interested in wailing on the guitar and going off on tangents. If it means something, if it's purposeful, then yeah. It's just a different school of thought.... But I wasn't trying to put down Stevie Ray Vaughan. I liked him a lot when i was a teenager; I had his records.
See how he still puts down the blues as a whole?
Are you kidding me?!? A lot of Jack's stuff is STRAIGHT blues. Blues is the centerpiece of his style. He isn't saying that SRV isn't a good guitar player (as you claimed); he's saying that SRV was soloing in one of the easiest musical stylings to solo in . . . which is absolutely true. Learn the basics of the blues and it's easy to sound like you know how to play. Shenanigans!
Post by thefoolonthehill on Mar 24, 2008 19:23:12 GMT -5
to each his own on jack white as for the super supper jam we will be having im hoping for the likes of whatever bonnaroo gives us they have yet to dissapoint me in this area but if i can dream bela fleck (banjo) robert randolph (pedal steel) levon helm (drums) warren haynes (acoustic guitar) chris wood (upright bass) michael kang (violin/mandolin) i said if i could dream
Post by jambandjohn on Mar 25, 2008 0:15:43 GMT -5
I'm kinda hoping that Levon Helm & the Ramble on the Road will form the basis for the Superjam as that's what the 'ramble' is all about to begin with. Lots of great possiblities for guests!!
Post by AintNoFreedom on Mar 25, 2008 8:34:06 GMT -5
I'd expect a possible Eddie Vedder appearance at the SuperJam. And Levon Helm seems inevitable. Who knows, all of our speculation could fall by the wayside if Clapton really is going to show up.
He calls blues "the most perfect form of music of all time," he doesn't down it. Besides, he's right. It is easy to play basic blues with pentatonic scales.
Ok I see how you don't think he's putting down the blues. I was thinking more along the lines of "Blues Rock" (I guess you could call it).
Right SRV was just pentatonic scales.
Edit: Also that post was not the original article. The original made him sound like he really was dissing SRV by saying that it was easy. Jack White doesn't hold a candle to SRV.
Post by Sköldpadda on Mar 25, 2008 21:33:10 GMT -5
zepfan221 said:
oopsikillednana said:
He calls blues "the most perfect form of music of all time," he doesn't down it. Besides, he's right. It is easy to play basic blues with pentatonic scales.
Ok I see how you don't think he's putting down the blues. I was thinking more along the lines of "Blues Rock" (I guess you could call it).
Right SRV was just pentatonic scales.
Edit: Also that post was not the original article. The original made him sound like he really was dissing SRV by saying that it was easy. Jack White doesn't hold a candle to SRV.
I'll be the whipping boy all you want, but you still didn't produce the interview showing him talking trash about the blues that other people requested. If you wanted to show how he was talking smack about SRV, why didn't you show the "original article?"
I don't have a problem with either one of them. I'm really not a huge fan of either. I think they're both very good guitarists, and I know they both play/played fairly simple music. "Simple" doesn't have anything to do with "good." I've had lots of arguments with people over the years who try to say that because someone's music isn't complicated, or is easy to play, that it's not as good as music that's more challenging to play. That seems to me like it's exactly what got Jack White in trouble in the first place: the quote people got wind of him saying that blues was simple to play and twisted it into him saying blues sucked. He's not saying that, though, and neither am I.
