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Post by stuckinutero on Apr 12, 2007 16:16:59 GMT -5
blazeaway54 said:
I happen to have an album's worth of Tapeworm, well, 10 songs at least. I guess there's a possibility that it's fake, but it certainly sounds like I would expect a Maynard/Trent duo to sound like. Here are the titles:
Chemical Clarknova eyeofthebeholder Fading Fiest (which I'm thinking is a typo of Feist, which is actually a word...according to dictionary.com anyway) Interview (not a song, really an interview) RMX Short Slowdriver Vacant (live at an APC concert, this one at least is definitely real)
Vacant was the only song that was worked on that ever saw the light of day. Trent was supposedly really pissed that Maynard played the song live. All those tracks are fakes and have been floating around forever now. To my knowledge, no Tapeworm studio tracks have ever seen the light of day. There was also word that nothing really ever got recorded. It was just a project with many rotating members, lots of ideas thrown around that never came to fruition.
I was born in the back seat of a Yellow Cab in a hospital loading zone and with the meter still running. I emerged needing a shave and shouted 'Time Square, and step on it!
Also, Vacant was released as Passive, right? And I remember getting a Perfect Circle bootleg off of Kazaa or something a few years ago with a song called "Perfect Enemy" (that's how it was labeled) and I found out that the song was actually called Vacant... But if Trent was so pissed about it, how did Perfect Circle get to release it as a single under another name? I think Clouser (maybe?) wrote it? I'm really not sure about it, if someone knows the real story, let me know.
edit: Clouser was meant to be typed as Lohner... sorry, brainless mistake.
I poo on Foo too! But i still think that JayZ is way better than johnny cash.
Now that's blasphemy!!!!!
About a dozen or so years ago Soundgarden and NIN's tours happened to cross paths in Toronto (Barrie, really) and it turned into a one-off festival with Marilyn Manson, Reverend Horton Heat, You Am I and Pop Will Eat Itself. NIN seems like the kind of band that should never be seen outdoors but they were awesome. A few weeks later they played Woodstock '94 (a legendary set by them) and positively blew up.
With this new disc and the new supposedly happier Trent, a Bonnaroo appearance could be legendary. Probably not gonna happen, though!
nin at roo would suck! nin anywhere else oh yes. i think there would be a rather angry pit and people would be pissed and i've been front row for nin on multiple occasions and it's just too much for bonnaroo
nin shows are just crazy atleast the ones i've been too. some of the wildest crowds especially back in the day. they tend to play alot of older material in concert and i just don't think it would fit for this kind of show. i will take back the statement that they would suck because nin is still awesome no matter where they play!!!
Post by stuckinutero on Apr 12, 2007 22:46:46 GMT -5
mothersky said:
Also, Vacant was released as Passive, right? And I remember getting a Perfect Circle bootleg off of Kazaa or something a few years ago with a song called "Perfect Enemy" (that's how it was labeled) and I found out that the song was actually called Vacant... But if Trent was so pissed about it, how did Perfect Circle get to release it as a single under another name? I think Clouser (maybe?) wrote it? I'm really not sure about it, if someone knows the real story, let me know.
edit: Clouser was meant to be typed as Lohner... sorry, brainless mistake.
I believe so. I've been out of the loop with Tool and NIN stuff for a while now. Im still a fan, I just don't follow the news and rumors like I used to. I also think Maynard pretty much wrote the only finished pieces of that song, so he had the writing credit for it. Like I said. The fans made much more out of the Tapeworm project than there actually was. The last I heard about it, there wasn't really anything done at all. It was just an idea for a project that never came to fruition.
cdevaney said:
Do people still "mosh"? Damn I'm old...
I feel the same way, and Im only 22. Frankly, I never really got it to begin with. The only time I've ever been thrown out of a concert was Ozzfest years and years ago. I saw some asshole throw an elbow into a girls face and absolutely beat him into a pulp. Of course I was the one who got thrown out.
I was born in the back seat of a Yellow Cab in a hospital loading zone and with the meter still running. I emerged needing a shave and shouted 'Time Square, and step on it!
Recent shows, I've not witnessed any moshing at all. At the most, people would be jumping up and down singing, not running into each other like idiots. Now, of course their live shows used to be insane (if you never saw em in the day, just for a sample of energy, check out the Closure tape), and I can really see NIN producing a not so great vibe at roo... for certain people. I think most people who appreciate that Tool is headlining this year could maybe grasp NIN playing in a big slot, but most people WILL NOT like it. So I say: Bring on NIN... next year or something... Tool and NIN would be too perfect.
I've thought about it myself, lots of colaboration could come out of Trent coming, but I'm in serious doubt.
As for NIN playing, I don't know. Don't get me wrong, they're my favorite band, easily the best shows I've ever been to. I went to see them at a club tour in 05 at an old church (the tabernacle), it was a religious experiance... amazing.
But I agree with a lot of you, it's some pretty heavy stuff, not exactly Bonnaroo material. But that's the great thing about NIN, they're diversity. There's a lot of songs of the upcoming album (Year Zero, coming out next week) that could easily be 'Roo classics, Zero Sum, for example.
Look into their marketing plan for the upcoming album, the guy is a genius. Creating an alternative reality to put fans closer to the album... crazy stuff. Call 216-333-1810 for a small sample of the alternative reality thing I was talking about
We treat mishaps like sinking ships and I know that I don't want to be out to drift Well I can see it in your eyes like I taste your lips and They both tell me that we're better than this
Post by oatmealschnappz on Apr 14, 2007 1:23:02 GMT -5
I haven't really listened to NIN since "Broken". (PrettyHateMachine is one of my top 20 LPs of all time) My best friend has always been a hardcore fan. I've sat through many of his long-winded explanations on why Reznor is one of the world's greatest artists. Since Trent's last disc, he has been kind of let-down by NIN's artistic direction. After hearing the new record, Michael say's that Trent has forsaken what made him vital in the first place. That he has lost his "UMPH!" and is trying to replace it with cliche, pseudo-reactionary political catch phrases and over the top retro-industrial production. He (being a long time devotee) seems to feel that Trent is just spent. That the 'well' is dry. That he's just spinning his wheels trying to hold on to his once relevant glory.
I haven't heard the new disc yet, so I have no comment. I was just wandering how you guys would respond to this critique. Remember, this is a hardcore, dedicated fan who has become disillusioned. A man who has LOVED Trent's music for almost 2 decades. Without just saying "you don't know what you're talking about" or stuff like that, can any of you give me an honest argument? I'm not challenging you guys. I'm just asking for a totally objective opinion.
Any responses will be greatly appreciated.
Last Edit: Apr 14, 2007 1:25:36 GMT -5 by oatmealschnappz - Back to Top
Yeah, I know. I'm more than a little drunk and I may have posted this in the wrong place but, the question still remains. I'm just curious how you guy would respond to this.
I have to say that the new disc has blown me away. I was there for NIN in the begining and feel he never really made a solid record from top to bottom since Pretty Hate Machine. NIN was my favorite band for a good few years in the early 90's. I got tired of mediocre albums. I am telling you flat out that this is the best album since Pretty Hate Machine. This album flows like no other that he has done. I hear something new each time I listen. I expected crap to be honest. I did not like his last. I LOVE IT. Best album of the year IMO.
It's weird, for some reason I have wanted to shout out how good I think this album is. It came as a total surprise. It IS also a concept album which may throw people off. It takes place 15 years from now under a violent theocracy. Still trying to put all of the pieces together regarding the story. It hasn't left my car stereo in a week.
That phone number up there, I called it today, and it was the really crazy phone conversation... but that's beside the point, I tried to use my phone again a second ago, and I'm either trippin or completely insane, but in the middle of a ring tone, a guitar squeel from "Me, I'm Not" burst through... it was wierd.... I think I'm being brainwashed by NIN once again.
Post by stuckinutero on Apr 15, 2007 12:22:20 GMT -5
oatmealschnappz said:
I haven't really listened to NIN since "Broken". (PrettyHateMachine is one of my top 20 LPs of all time) My best friend has always been a hardcore fan. I've sat through many of his long-winded explanations on why Reznor is one of the world's greatest artists. Since Trent's last disc, he has been kind of let-down by NIN's artistic direction. After hearing the new record, Michael say's that Trent has forsaken what made him vital in the first place. That he has lost his "UMPH!" and is trying to replace it with cliche, pseudo-reactionary political catch phrases and over the top retro-industrial production. He (being a long time devotee) seems to feel that Trent is just spent. That the 'well' is dry. That he's just spinning his wheels trying to hold on to his once relevant glory.
I haven't heard the new disc yet, so I have no comment. I was just wandering how you guys would respond to this critique. Remember, this is a hardcore, dedicated fan who has become disillusioned. A man who has LOVED Trent's music for almost 2 decades. Without just saying "you don't know what you're talking about" or stuff like that, can any of you give me an honest argument? I'm not challenging you guys. I'm just asking for a totally objective opinion.
Any responses will be greatly appreciated.
Despite the fact that I enjoy this album much more than the last, I'll go ahead and agree with you. Actually thats pretty much dead on about how I feel pertaining to Trent these days. I always disputed people calling him a "musical genius" and whatnot, but he was one that I enjoyed. A few days ago I threw the new album on and after I tired of it I put on The Downward Spiral. An album that I still hold in high regard to this day. Everything about it dwarfs his newer stuff. Year Zero is a step in the right direction, but I really doubt he'll ever attain the sound he had on his earlier albums. Or as you put it, the well has just gone dry.
I was born in the back seat of a Yellow Cab in a hospital loading zone and with the meter still running. I emerged needing a shave and shouted 'Time Square, and step on it!
