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Maybe I'll throw myself to the dogs, but my back's not to the wall Maybe I'll lay some bricks for the man, but the days just aren't that long So if I settle back and chill will I see far enough to feel the angel's dream? I thought it was the Story of the World!
Post by bhamwizofoz on Mar 28, 2007 8:19:33 GMT -5
Sorry for the delay. I would have been on here sooner if i could have i swear. But yes the results are in. I just want to say thanks for keeping me occupied for a little while with this. It really has been fun. I am thinking once we get additions and so on we will just do a Bonnaroo tourney. Or maybe a Lolla vs. Roo. Seeing that i am going to both i might do it.
The White Stripes (20 votes) beats The Flaming Lips (18 votes)
The Police (20 votes) beats Tool (18 votes).
The Champs of Bonnaroo vs. Coachella The White Stripes
Well that wraps it up. I'll be back with something to this effect either after Lolla announcement or boredom.
Post by BonnarooDetective on Mar 29, 2007 18:51:43 GMT -5
Umm yea, just because their songs are simpler doesn't mean they are better or worse. They write some pretty innovative stuff, and blend together a huge variety of genres. To me, most Tool songs start to run together at a point, The Stripes are so different.
Not to mention that one memeber of that two piece band is Jack White . . . he has more talent in his right hand than half of Tool. When he plays those songs live, they will not be so simple.
Anyway, how does the number of artists in the band detract from their quality? I actually find them more impressive because they can make so much sound with only two people. I think it makes them better.
Post by unclefister on Mar 30, 2007 10:31:30 GMT -5
trustme said:
Umm yea, just because their songs are simpler doesn't mean they are better or worse. They write some pretty innovative stuff, and blend together a huge variety of genres. To me, most Tool songs start to run together at a point, The Stripes are so different.
Not to mention, that one memeber of that two piece band is Jack White . . . he has more talent in his right hand than half of Tool. When he plays those songs live, those songs will not be so simple.
Anyway, how does the number of artists in the band detract from their quality? I actually find them more impressive because they can make so much sound with only two people. I think it makes them better.
Post by canexplain on Mar 30, 2007 11:06:07 GMT -5
Anyway, how does the number of artists in the band detract from their quality? I actually find them more impressive because they can make so much sound with only two people. I think it makes them better.
That can actually be argued both ways I think … in the 60’s some of the best bands were power trios …. Hendrix, cream, etc and the same can hold today … I am listening to ted leo and the pharmacists now, and they have a great full sound …. Taken to the other extreme, the Who couldn’t do Tommy without loops or a zillion other musicians …. Can a string quartet play a full symphony and still sound the same .. no … or think about the dead …. Do you know any two or three guys that could do like the STS9 stick? I don’t … and then we have people like Howard Jones or Girl Talk which a whole different sort of critter …. just a thought … cr*****
Post by unplugdacusticaz on Mar 30, 2007 18:48:41 GMT -5
trustme said:
Not to mention that one memeber of that two piece band is Jack White . . . he has more talent in his right hand than half of Tool. When he plays those songs live, they will not be so simple.
Wait, what?! I'm sorry, but that's a preposterous comment. You're saying that Jack White has more talent than half of Tool because why? He writes songs, sings them and can play the guitar?? Come on man, you can't be serious. Tool is one of the most innovative bands out there right now, where the White Stripes aren't even really a band anymore. And after listening to their stuff, I just don't see what the big deal is. I don't see how you can say that he's more talented, based off of what??
Wait, what?! I'm sorry, but that's a preposterous comment. You're saying that Jack White has more talent than half of Tool because why? He writes songs, sings them and can play the guitar?? Come on man, you can't be serious. Tool is one of the most innovative bands out there right now, where the White Stripes aren't even really a band anymore. And after listening to their stuff, I just don't see what the big deal is. I don't see how you can say that he's more talented, based off of what??
Honestly, you won't get it until you see them live. White's just a magnetic performer, plain and simple.
Comparing the two acts is rather pointless though. Totally different goals, styles and sounds. I went with the bands I liked. It's not really like people are saying one is better than the other, just that given the choices we had, they preferred this band over that band. Studio wise, Tool doesn't do a hell of a lot for me, but I'm still looking forward to seeing them live.
Not to mention that one memeber of that two piece band is Jack White . . . he has more talent in his right hand than half of Tool. When he plays those songs live, they will not be so simple.
Wait, what?! I'm sorry, but that's a preposterous comment. You're saying that Jack White has more talent than half of Tool because why? He writes songs, sings them and can play the guitar?? Come on man, you can't be serious. Tool is one of the most innovative bands out there right now, where the White Stripes aren't even really a band anymore. And after listening to their stuff, I just don't see what the big deal is. I don't see how you can say that he's more talented, based off of what??
Based off this:
Just a little example of how amazing Jack White is...
I don't see how Tool is all that innovative. I have listened to their stuff, and I am not impressed in the least. People tell me that songs like "Stinkfist" which describes anal fisting show off Maynard's brilliant social commentary. I think both bands are overrated, but Tool for me does not live up to any hype. I also think your statement about TWS not being a band any more is completely unfounded and unfair. Maybe thats just me, but thats how I see it.
If you like one, but don't get the other, see'em both damnit. And if you don't like Jack White, at least you can watch Meg bounce around on her drum set. ;D
i might not be up to speed on my musical history here, but i think they were one of the first hard rock/heavy metal artists to experiment with their time signatures.
Maybe I'll throw myself to the dogs, but my back's not to the wall Maybe I'll lay some bricks for the man, but the days just aren't that long So if I settle back and chill will I see far enough to feel the angel's dream? I thought it was the Story of the World!
^^ Nah, if you consider King Crimnson "hard rock", I'd say they were one of the first. Tool would probably be one of the more hugely successful hard rock acts to experiment with time sigs.
Post by unplugdacusticaz on Apr 5, 2007 17:34:51 GMT -5
The only thing I was reiterating with my comments was mainly the fact that Bonnaroodetective said that Jack White has more talent in his right hand than half of Tool. That was just a rediculous statement and it made me feel the need to say something on it. I'm sure Jack White can walk on water and all that jazz, he's a great musician yes, but you guys act like he's the be all end all of music. Tool is a very innovative band, and they're still going strong after 10 + years. And the reason why I said that the stripes aren't even really a band anymore is cause.....welll....they aren't. They disbanded, Jack formed the raconteurs, and now they are getting back together. Anyway, jack's a good guy, and tool's a good band, so lets just agree to disagree.
Post by BonnarooDetective on Apr 5, 2007 18:15:11 GMT -5
First of all, The White Stripes never disbanded; you could call it a hiatus, but never did anyone declare that The White Stripes were breaking up in any way. Jack had wanted to do The Raconteurs for a long time, and finally he got an opportunity to do it. A new White Stripes album is due out in June, they never disbanded, had they disbanded this would be a "reunion." There's also a new Raconteurs album that is near completion.
I'm not trying to hate, I do think Tool is a good band, they have done some very creative stuff, and are good musicians. But Jack White is on another plain. I'm not saying Jack is the end all and be all of music, but I firmly believe that he is (thus far) the best thing to come out of his generation. Tool is good, you might even call them great. But in the decades to come, Jack White will be much more memorable. You will tell your granchildren "I saw Jack White back in the day," not "I saw Tool way back when." I could be wrong, but he's the best thing going right now, and he promises to do even more with his talent. Like I said before, The White Stripes songs are all over the place, Jack White can do any genre, and a lot of their songs are beyond category. Tool stuff just starts to get repeatitive to me.
I can understand that you are more of a Tool fan, and you are more than welcome to disagree with my statement that "Jack White has more talen in this right hand than half of Tool" (albeit, there was some degree of hyperbole there). But I don't think the statement is "rediculous," whatever that means.
Post by unplugdacusticaz on Apr 5, 2007 18:35:26 GMT -5
ri·dic·u·lous(r-dky-ls) adj. Deserving or inspiring ridicule; absurd, preposterous, or silly.
Once again, this is all based off of opinion. You think that Jack White is the most inspiring musician in this generation. That's cool man, I'm all for that. But that doesn't mean that you're right dude. There's thousands of musicians out there, some of which have more talent in their right hand than Jack does in his whole body. For a band like Tool to continue to crank out great music for 10 years plus, it shows that they are doing something right. THey haven't gone as mainstream as the White Stripes, no. But that's a good thing. If Tool became MTVized like the Stripes did, it's be a sad sad day.
And I don't see myself telling my grandkids that "I saw Jack White back in the day", I don't even see myself telling them I saw Tool back in the day, but if I did tell them about one of those bands, It probably would be Tool. Once again, it's just a matter of opinion, that's the beauty of music, so to each man his own.
