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Post by HoodooOperator on Feb 9, 2007 11:39:41 GMT -5
HA!....i just wanted to create one of those bogus "this band is reuniting, maybe they will play roo" threads. Will they play?....NO, is it awesome they are playing Detroit, and that is a three hour drive for me?....YES! ;D
I am going to move this into the bonnaroo section. I have been thinking of bands that can play before Tool, and I think Iggy might be a decent fit. That might just me though.
Post by unplugdacusticaz on Feb 17, 2007 13:49:02 GMT -5
I bought the Coachella dvd a few weeks back just to see how the vibe was there (which, by the way, coachella doesn't match up to Bonnaroo at all), and their was a clip of the stooges playing. Iggy was absolutely horrible, maybe that's just how he does his stage routine, but he was singing out of tune, muttering random things into the microphone, yelling at random times throughout the song that you could tell didn't belong there, even the bandmembers were starting to wonder what the hell he was doing. I think that Iggy wouldn't be a very good band for Bonnaroo, but hey, I've been wrong before. I was just turned off by him from that performance.
Post by specialist on Feb 17, 2007 15:54:14 GMT -5
i love the Coachella DVD performance, it's not supposed to be pretty, but that's Iggy and i love it.
When they played their first gig, in 2003 at Coachella, the first thing Iggy did was start jumping in the air, flipping the bird to the crowd -- "Fuck you, fuck you and fuck you." Then Iggy turned to the side of the stage, where the elite were standing -- Sonic Youth, Queens of the Stone Age, the Red Hot Chili Peppers and the other all-access rock stars -- and he gave us the jerk-off motion. It was great. After all this time, he's still at war.
Post by stuckinutero on Feb 17, 2007 16:03:34 GMT -5
specialist said:
i love the Coachella DVD performance, it's not supposed to be pretty, but that's Iggy and i love it.
When they played their first gig, in 2003 at Coachella, the first thing Iggy did was start jumping in the air, flipping the bird to the crowd -- "Fuck you, f**k you and f**k you." Then Iggy turned to the side of the stage, where the elite were standing -- Sonic Youth, Queens of the Stone Age, the Red Hot Chili Peppers and the other all-access rock stars -- and he gave us the jerk-off motion. It was great. After all this time, he's still at war.
-Thurston Moore
"punk rock" is more attitude and image than anything else. While ill agree that is pretty badass, and risky (anthony keidis might have taken it as a pass) Im sure if i actually had the chance to catch the Stooges at a festival theyd only be a band Id check out.
Ill listen to anything from Salsa to Flamenco, but punk rock just never appealed to me. Most of my favorite bands have a heavy prock influence, but it doesnt exactly translate all the time.
I've said it a million times and Ill say it again, The Pixies are exactly what 90% of punk bands SHOULD have sounded like. There is some good prock out there, but I think the influences got screwed somewhere along the lines. Like right at the beginning. Modeling your music after the Sex Pistols isnt a good idea.
I was born in the back seat of a Yellow Cab in a hospital loading zone and with the meter still running. I emerged needing a shave and shouted 'Time Square, and step on it!
Post by stuckinutero on Feb 17, 2007 17:42:21 GMT -5
thefrp said:
I would see the Stooges if they played, I've always enjoyed their music even though alot of punk doesn't do it for me.
And I agree that the Pixies are a great model for a band. Their live show was one of my favorites of all time.
I still have not seen them play, and Im dying to. I really wonder how this year is going to pan out for them. As usual Frank and Kim are saying completely different things. Kim said she hated the new tunes and there wouldnt be a new record. Then a few months later Frank said a they where recording new material for a release. Gotta love it.
If The Stooges played I would definetly HAVE to stop by and see them just to decide for myself. I have this thing where Ill sit and listen to a band for at least 10 minutes so I can form my own opinion on them. Even if I dislike a band I always try my hardest to look for 1 thing I like.
I was born in the back seat of a Yellow Cab in a hospital loading zone and with the meter still running. I emerged needing a shave and shouted 'Time Square, and step on it!
I saw the Pixies on that reunion tour in Austin, TX headlining ACL (at the same time as Trey's second show). It was amazing. They actually played 3 shows in Austin that week, but one was a taping of the ACL TV show at the studio (impossible to get tix) and the other sold out very fast, so I had to settle for just one show.
Post by stuckinutero on Feb 17, 2007 18:39:01 GMT -5
thefrp said:
I saw the Pixies on that reunion tour in Austin, TX headlining ACL (at the same time as Trey's second show). It was amazing. They actually played 3 shows in Austin that week, but one was a taping of the ACL TV show at the studio (impossible to get tix) and the other sold out very fast, so I had to settle for just one show.
Still got more than me. I could seriously choke one of my friends for being at Coachella that year and not seeing them.
I was born in the back seat of a Yellow Cab in a hospital loading zone and with the meter still running. I emerged needing a shave and shouted 'Time Square, and step on it!
i love the Coachella DVD performance, it's not supposed to be pretty, but that's Iggy and i love it.
When they played their first gig, in 2003 at Coachella, the first thing Iggy did was start jumping in the air, flipping the bird to the crowd -- "Fuck you, f**k you and f**k you." Then Iggy turned to the side of the stage, where the elite were standing -- Sonic Youth, Queens of the Stone Age, the Red Hot Chili Peppers and the other all-access rock stars -- and he gave us the jerk-off motion. It was great. After all this time, he's still at war.
-Thurston Moore
"punk rock" is more attitude and image than anything else. While ill agree that is pretty badass, and risky (anthony keidis might have taken it as a pass) Im sure if i actually had the chance to catch the Stooges at a festival theyd only be a band Id check out.
Ill listen to anything from Salsa to Flamenco, but punk rock just never appealed to me. Most of my favorite bands have a heavy prock influence, but it doesnt exactly translate all the time.
I've said it a million times and Ill say it again, The Pixies are exactly what 90% of punk bands SHOULD have sounded like. There is some good prock out there, but I think the influences got screwed somewhere along the lines. Like right at the beginning. Modeling your music after the Sex Pistols isnt a good idea.
Wow. First neither of those groups you pretty much talked about are PUNK groups. Stooges are closer to punk than say classic or glam rock, but not as close as the New York Dolls. And the Pixies are nowhere near punk in my mind. They're closer to metal. Maybe they have a punk attitude but they're several steps removed from punk.
Second, the headlining group at this year's festival WAS pretty much a direct result of the punk rock movement. That little group called The Police came up with their sound by following in the Clash's footsteps and further combining reggae and ska with stripped down rock'n'roll.
I mean, I'm one of those guys who used to say I hated punk or that it sucked. But now, I'm older and have broader tastes and have realized that without punk I wouldn't have the Ramones, the Clash, the Buzzcocks, Wire, Joy Division, the Cure, the Police, Minutemen, the Meat Puppets...I could go on and on.
Punk music is not just the Sex Pistols and a bunch of bands that modeled themselves after Green Day and Nirvana.
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Just a disclaimer. I was cranky when I wrote that. Needed to eat lunch.
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Post by stuckinutero on Feb 17, 2007 21:15:30 GMT -5
dudezer47 said:
stuckinutero said:
"punk rock" is more attitude and image than anything else. While ill agree that is pretty badass, and risky (anthony keidis might have taken it as a pass) Im sure if i actually had the chance to catch the Stooges at a festival theyd only be a band Id check out.
Ill listen to anything from Salsa to Flamenco, but punk rock just never appealed to me. Most of my favorite bands have a heavy prock influence, but it doesnt exactly translate all the time.
I've said it a million times and Ill say it again, The Pixies are exactly what 90% of punk bands SHOULD have sounded like. There is some good prock out there, but I think the influences got screwed somewhere along the lines. Like right at the beginning. Modeling your music after the Sex Pistols isnt a good idea.
Wow. First neither of those groups you pretty much talked about are PUNK groups. Stooges are closer to punk than say classic or glam rock, but not as close as the New York Dolls. And the Pixies are nowhere near punk in my mind. They're closer to metal. Maybe they have a punk attitude but they're several steps removed from punk.
Second, the headlining group at this year's festival WAS pretty much a direct result of the punk rock movement. That little group called The Police came up with their sound by following in the Clash's footsteps and further combining reggae and ska with stripped down rock'n'roll.
I mean, I'm one of those guys who used to say I hated punk or that it sucked. But now, I'm older and have broader tastes and have realized that without punk I wouldn't have the Ramones, the Clash, the Buzzcocks, Wire, Joy Division, the Cure, the Police, Minutemen, the Meat Puppets...I could go on and on.
Punk music is not just the Sex Pistols and a bunch of bands that modeled themselves after Green Day and Nirvana.
Relax buddy. Maybe you missed this part
stuckinutero said:
Ill listen to anything from Salsa to Flamenco, but punk rock just never appealed to me. Most of my favorite bands have a heavy prock influence, but it doesnt exactly translate all the time.
I've said it a million times and Ill say it again, The Pixies are exactly what 90% of punk bands SHOULD have sounded like. There is some good prock out there, but I think the influences got screwed somewhere along the lines. Like right at the beginning. Modeling your music after the Sex Pistols isnt a good idea.
So what if I cant indentify with 90% of the punk rock Ive ever listened to. Most of the bands I listen to have had a HEAVY punk rock influence. Im not trying to bash an entire genre here. Im sure the fact that you listen to punk means you have broader tastes than me. That sounds like some hardcore hipster sh*t to me.
Im a huge fan of artists ranging from Chet Atkins to Ali Farka Toure. Just because I never got into a specific genre doesnt mean I have limited taste in music. Even bashing on people with limited taste in music is both pointless and childish. If someone has what they have and enjoys it then mission accomplished.
Ill even stick by my Pixies comment. Hacking up genres into little tiny pieces is stupid to me. Its all for comparison and sensationalism. The work of music critics. If something is in the same vein, fine by me. If that same piece of music has outside influence thats fine too. Fusion in music is fine. Calling something hair metal because some guys have long hair and sing about certain things is endlessly retarted to me. It shares the same basic musical language as metal therefore it is metal. Thats music, I didnt make the rules.
I was born in the back seat of a Yellow Cab in a hospital loading zone and with the meter still running. I emerged needing a shave and shouted 'Time Square, and step on it!
^^Here's the thing though. When you call a genre out, make sure you're talking about that genre. Stooges aren't punk. Pixies aren't punk. One was before. One was after. Like I said, I was cranky (maybe you didn't read that), but you basically took a shit on a genre without qualifying it. I'm going to call you out on it when you're not in the same ballpark. It's not meant to be territorial though.
To me, saying the Pixies are what 90% of punk bands should sound like IS hipster bullshit. It's what hipsters say. When hipsters form bands, they sound like the Pixies or Sonic Youth. I'm not hating on that because those are both good bands, but bands don't need to sound like anybody if they sound good. Just like you don't have to listen to it if you don't like it. But you also have to know what you're listening to.
What's funny to me about your response is this: you indirectly hated most of the acts in a musical genre by comparing it to a group that isn't in that genre. Then when I call you out on it, you come back saying I'm being a music facist whose not open minded. The fact is we probably like most of the same music (except Chet Akins). And the idea that you're taking some kind of high ground because you think I'm taking a high and mighty stance is just funny.
All I'm saying is get it right. You want to hate on a genre, hate on a genre. But be articulate about it. Take about bands actually IN that genre. That's my main point.
Post by stuckinutero on Feb 18, 2007 1:28:54 GMT -5
dudezer47 said:
^^Here's the thing though. When you call a genre out, make sure you're talking about that genre. Stooges aren't punk. Pixies aren't punk. One was before. One was after. Like I said, I was cranky (maybe you didn't read that), but you basically took a nuts on a genre without qualifying it. I'm going to call you out on it when you're not in the same ballpark. It's not meant to be territorial though.
To me, saying the Pixies are what 90% of punk bands should sound like IS hipster bullshit. It's what hipsters say. When hipsters form bands, they sound like the Pixies or Sonic Youth. I'm not hating on that because those are both good bands, but bands don't need to sound like anybody if they sound good. Just like you don't have to listen to it if you don't like it. But you also have to know what you're listening to.
What's funny to me about your response is this: you indirectly hated most of the acts in a musical genre by comparing it to a group that isn't in that genre. Then when I call you out on it, you come back saying I'm being a music facist whose not open minded. The fact is we probably like most of the same music (except Chet Akins). And the idea that you're taking some kind of high ground because you think I'm taking a high and mighty stance is just funny.
All I'm saying is get it right. You want to hate on a genre, hate on a genre. But be articulate about it. Take about bands actually IN that genre. That's my main point.
Its cool man, I respect your opinion. I was just stating that the vast majority of punk bands out there modeled themselves after some sour stuff. I wish more punk acts decided to model themselves after the Clash. We could sit here and list off punk bands and Id tell you which ones I dislike, it would be the vast majority. One big thing I forgot to state, and even re-read my posts to make sure it wasnt there, is I never said I hated it. It may not be my cup of tea, but I can find certain things I respect. I try to do that with every piece of music I hear. I just made a statement that you didnt agree with, thats cool. Im sure we have alot of the same musical tastes, this is just a small region we disagree on. No reason to hate on it brother.
I was born in the back seat of a Yellow Cab in a hospital loading zone and with the meter still running. I emerged needing a shave and shouted 'Time Square, and step on it!
The Stooges were more punk than any of the punks that are held up by music historians.
People love to point out how the Ramones and the Sex Pistols were the seedlings of punk, but Iggy Pop would devour John Lydon, sh*t him out, mold the dump him into an effigy of Johnny Rotten, devour the effigy, and then sh*t that out too, only to smear the remains on Lydon's mother's face.
Post by stuckinutero on Feb 18, 2007 1:47:12 GMT -5
aquariumdrunk said:
The Stooges were more punk than any of the punks that are held up by music historians.
People love to point out how the Ramones and the Sex Pistols were the seedlings of punk, but Iggy Pop would devour John Lydon, sh*t him out, mold the dump him into an effigy of Johnny Rotten, devour the effigy, and then sh*t that out too, only to smear the remains on Lydon's mother's face.
I just stated in another thread that something was the funniest thing I heard in my short time here.
No more...... Im drunk, laughing my ass off and almost crying right now.
I was born in the back seat of a Yellow Cab in a hospital loading zone and with the meter still running. I emerged needing a shave and shouted 'Time Square, and step on it!
Post by oatmealschnappz on Feb 18, 2007 1:55:18 GMT -5
The Ramones and The Sex Pistols are, Obviously, jokes to any real music fan. The Stooges are an important and credible chapter in the Punk legend but, there has never been a band that was as "punk"or as talented as Dead Kennedys! It's all to easy to judge them by all of the brain-dead jerk-offs that sported the "DK' logo but, they were the single most important band in the evolution of 70/80's punk/rock. Listen to their last record, "BedTime For Democracy", and you'll understand what i'm saying. They are the best Punk band ever!
"Punk's not dead, It just deserves to die, When it becomes another stale cartoon!" -DK- "Chickenshit Conformist"
"Anarchy sounds great to me, until someone has to fix the sewers." -DK- "Where do you draw the line?"
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The Stooges were more punk than any of the punks that are held up by music historians.
People love to point out how the Ramones and the Sex Pistols were the seedlings of punk, but Iggy Pop would devour John Lydon, sh*t him out, mold the dump him into an effigy of Johnny Rotten, devour the effigy, and then sh*t that out too, only to smear the remains on Lydon's mother's face.
Post by stuckinutero on Feb 18, 2007 15:12:10 GMT -5
papageorgio said:
I've seen Iggy several times. I worked at a nightclub and when Iggy played we wouldn't serve beer in anything but cups cause he would always get pelted. skinny sweaty bastard was crazy. I met him and carried some of his nuts in. I would like for some of you to have been at his shows and tell me he was not punk. u gotta be kiddin me. I clicked on that link. What a joke! Iggy and the stooges at the fox theater. thats dispicable! They should never play a nice venue like that. Iggy needs to be in dirty club. Or a late night dirty roo!
The place would pack in 1000 combat boot wearin spiked mohawk sportin dudes. I looked out of place with my long hair.
Thats how I always felt when I went with some of my "punk" friends to shows. Im not a fan, but Ill go to ALMOST any concert if the price is right. Punk shows are usually pretty cheap and an easy ticket to get wasted and definetly not look like the biggest drunk asshole there.
I was born in the back seat of a Yellow Cab in a hospital loading zone and with the meter still running. I emerged needing a shave and shouted 'Time Square, and step on it!
Post by poopzilla33 on Feb 18, 2007 20:21:22 GMT -5
oatmealschnappz said:
The Ramones and The Sex Pistols are, Obviously, jokes to any real music fan. The Stooges are an important and credible chapter in the Punk legend but, there has never been a band that was as "punk"or as talented as Dead Kennedys! It's all to easy to judge them by all of the brain-dead jerk-offs that sported the "DK' logo but, they were the single most important band in the evolution of 70/80's punk/rock. Listen to their last record, "BedTime For Democracy", and you'll understand what i'm saying. They are the best Punk band ever!
"Punk's not dead, It just deserves to die, When it becomes another stale cartoon!" -DK- "Chickenshit Conformist"
"Anarchy sounds great to me, until someone has to fix the sewers." -DK- "Where do you draw the line?"
i saw jello biafra and the melvins alst eyar and they ripped it up. it was amazing. he played some of hsi solo songs (which are great, and soem dead kennedy songs (which are better). he ended wiht an amaxing version of holiday in combodia. the melvins complement him eprfectly, if you ever get the chance i highly suggest seeing them
Post by stuckinutero on Feb 19, 2007 12:29:24 GMT -5
poopzilla33 said:
oatmealschnappz said:
The Ramones and The Sex Pistols are, Obviously, jokes to any real music fan. The Stooges are an important and credible chapter in the Punk legend but, there has never been a band that was as "punk"or as talented as Dead Kennedys! It's all to easy to judge them by all of the brain-dead jerk-offs that sported the "DK' logo but, they were the single most important band in the evolution of 70/80's punk/rock. Listen to their last record, "BedTime For Democracy", and you'll understand what i'm saying. They are the best Punk band ever!
"Punk's not dead, It just deserves to die, When it becomes another stale cartoon!" -DK- "Chickenshit Conformist"
"Anarchy sounds great to me, until someone has to fix the sewers." -DK- "Where do you draw the line?"
i saw jello biafra and the melvins alst eyar and they ripped it up. it was amazing. he played some of hsi solo songs (which are great, and soem dead kennedy songs (which are better). he ended wiht an amaxing version of holiday in combodia. the melvins complement him eprfectly, if you ever get the chance i highly suggest seeing them
How did The Melvins sound? Just one of those bands from my childhood I never got to catch. As the years go on every time I see Mr Buzzo he just looks more and more spaced out.
I was born in the back seat of a Yellow Cab in a hospital loading zone and with the meter still running. I emerged needing a shave and shouted 'Time Square, and step on it!
