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Post by oatmealschnappz on Feb 26, 2007 16:03:48 GMT -5
melikecheese said:
oatmealschnappz said:
She's more of a metronome than a drummer....a cymbal-happy metronome.
no way, Jack runs the show and doesnt just work with a metronome, Meg has to read him and change as needed. She is really damn good at it. Watch some live shots and really pay attention to the way they interact. Without Meg there would be no White Stripes. Its a chemistry thing. If another drummer played for Meg it would be a very very different show, they would probably need to start using set lists. Casual fans of the band will not understand this.
Having good chemistry with someone else, or knowing what someone else is going to do at any given time does not make you a talented musician. I've seen them live (3 times) and she is there simply to keep-time for Jack(like a metronome). I really dig him but the fact is: if another drummer played with him, it wouldn't be "The Jack White Band" anymore. MAYBE she's competant (big maybe)but to say that there would be no more White Stripes without her is absolutely ridiculous. Jack could play by himself (or with a bottom shelf drum machine)from now on and it wouldn't hurt the overall sound at all.
Post by poopzilla33 on Feb 26, 2007 16:08:31 GMT -5
^it wouldn't hurt the sound deffinatly, but it would change the sound. i've said before meg's comparable to ringo star. she's not that good, but she compliments jack very very well. i'm excited to see the stripes, never seen 'em before and was doubtfull i'd ver get a chance to
Post by bojangles22 on Feb 26, 2007 17:00:39 GMT -5
if somehow at 2am Meg White walks into youre bedroom and lays down on your bed and starts getting naked,, whould you tell her she was a bad drummer? bet you wouldn't mind her being a metronome then. Duble time baby!
i know that's got nothing to do with anything, but I threw that in there for grits&skittles
Agreed Meg isn't the best drummer, but the White Stripes as an entity WOULD cease to exist if she left not because of skills but because of image and mystique... The interaction they have on stage is borderline creepy... They used to be married for a short period actually, and Jack was the one that adopted her last name of White, which is quite interesting... In concert now, Jack consistently refers to Meg as his "baby sister", which is even stranger... Jack constantly credits Meg for having the more extensive record collection and better taste in music. So much so, in fact, that she decides most of the songs they are going to cover (including Dylan cover "In The Cold Cold Night")... Basically, my point is that the two of them together is the White Stripes, and having nothing to do with talent, if one left, whichever one that is, the White Stripes would be no more
Post by oatmealschnappz on Feb 26, 2007 17:29:51 GMT -5
dto said:
Agreed Meg isn't the best drummer, but the White Stripes as an entity WOULD cease to exist if she left not because of skills but because of image and mystique...
Not sure I agree but that is a MUCH better arguement!
BonnarooDetective, I think you're actually right... For some reason I thought it was a cover... However, they do an outstanding version of Love Sick (and I'm 100% positive that's a Dylan cover)
Post by BonnarooDetective on Feb 26, 2007 18:15:27 GMT -5
Yup, Love sick is great . . . ball and biscuit . . . one more cup of coffee . . . I love the fact that they do so many Dylan covers. My favorite, of course, is Isis. They must play that!
Post by melikecheese on Feb 26, 2007 20:59:41 GMT -5
oatmealschnappz said:
Having good chemistry with someone else, or knowing what someone else is going to do at any given time does not make you a talented musician. ...... .... MAYBE she's competant (big maybe)but to say that there would be no more White Stripes without her is absolutely ridiculous. Jack could play by himself (or with a bottom shelf drum machine)from now on and it wouldn't hurt the overall sound at all.
meh, the White Stripes would cease to exist without Meg.
The beautiful thing about the White Stripes is that anyone can learn to play a white stripes song but no one can ever sound like the White Stripes.
To say that Jack playing with a drum machine wouldn't hurt the overall sound is an insult to both of them. A drum machine would sound so out of place, it would be such a cold mechanical rhythm that has no place in what is natural sound from start to finish. Read about where these albums are recorded because it matters. Your not going to find equipment that even comes close to anything like a drum machine. Meg is the heart beat of the band.
BonnarooDetective Ball and Biscuit is not a Dylan cover.
Post by BonnarooDetective on Feb 26, 2007 23:45:41 GMT -5
Hah, you caught me on the same thing. I have a version of that with Dylan, and my brain was way off amidst a fifteen page paper about the origins of the Swedish welfare state. You are correct sir, karma for you.
Post by oatmealschnappz on Feb 27, 2007 1:14:00 GMT -5
melikecheese said:
oatmealschnappz said:
Having good chemistry with someone else, or knowing what someone else is going to do at any given time does not make you a talented musician. ...... .... MAYBE she's competant (big maybe)but to say that there would be no more White Stripes without her is absolutely ridiculous. Jack could play by himself (or with a bottom shelf drum machine)from now on and it wouldn't hurt the overall sound at all.
meh, the White Stripes would cease to exist without Meg.
The beautiful thing about the White Stripes is that anyone can learn to play a white stripes song but no one can ever sound like the White Stripes.
To say that Jack playing with a drum machine wouldn't hurt the overall sound is an insult to both of them....
With all due respect, no one can ever sound like The White Stripes via Jack White (and his amazing guitar mastery)....sounding like Meg is another story entirely. Me saying that him playing with a drum machine wouldn't hurt their (his) sound is not an insult to him....simply because he IS their sound. Yeah, she is definitely an essential part of their overall image and vibe but, she's just not a very good drummer. I've seen them live (several times) and listened to all of their records extensively, so i'm not just talking sh*t. She just isn't very talented. When she's able to start a side-project without relying entirely on the talent and appeal of "others", then I will apologize. Until then, I have no choice but to believe that Meg is simply one of Jack's "rock star" accessories. IMHO.
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Post by melikecheese on Feb 27, 2007 9:14:58 GMT -5
trustme said:
Hah, you caught me on the same thing. I have a version of that with Dylan, and my brain was way off amidst a fifteen page paper about the origins of the Swedish welfare state. You are correct sir, karma for you.
Karma for you because I totally forgot about that take of the song they do together.
There is this intangible idea of "talent" being tossed around. What is talent? Can you define it in terms of a musician without just listing people you think are? Do you expect any to believe your 7 year old drummer and Meg White have the same level of talent? Jack White doesn't play a very "technical" guitar which is what is most often mistaken as talent these days. So its easy to play, its simple blues based guitar, does that mean he is not talented? Just because anyone can take the time and hit the same drum at the same time as Meg doesn't mean anything and doesn't prove "talent" one way or the other.
Post by melikecheese on Feb 27, 2007 10:45:41 GMT -5
On a much lighter note, any big collectors here? I got about 55 official releases between all the pressings of the albums, the singles and promos and what not...love to chat about collecting WS swag.
Post by Mrs. Featherbottom on Feb 27, 2007 11:36:58 GMT -5
melikecheese said:
On a much lighter note, any big collectors here? I got about 65 official releases between all the pressings of the albums, the singles and promos and what not...love to chat about collecting WS swag.
That sounds about as compreshensive as it gets! I envy the record collectors. At the end of the day there is something tangible to show. Particularly the cover art. I've got nothing but mp3's.
Post by thegreendropsrule on Feb 27, 2007 13:04:44 GMT -5
melikecheese said:
trustme said:
Hah, you caught me on the same thing. I have a version of that with Dylan, and my brain was way off amidst a fifteen page paper about the origins of the Swedish welfare state. You are correct sir, karma for you.
Karma for you because I totally forgot about that take of the song they do together.
There is this intangible idea of "talent" being tossed around. What is talent? Can you define it in terms of a musician without just listing people you think are? Do you expect any to believe your 7 year old drummer and Meg White have the same level of talent? Jack White doesn't play a very "technical" guitar which is what is most often mistaken as talent these days. So its easy to play, its simple blues based guitar, does that mean he is not talented? Just because anyone can take the time and hit the same drum at the same time as Meg doesn't mean anything and doesn't prove "talent" one way or the other.
One thing which hasnt been mentioned yet is how, unlike almost any other band, the drums follow the guitar in the White Stripes. No way could you use a metronome - or any drummer who didn't understand what Jack is all about. Meg is constantly having to change the timing and pattern of what she is playing to keep up (and that's definitely in a good way!!!)
We treat mishaps like sinking ships and I know that I don't want to be out to drift Well I can see it in your eyes like I taste your lips and They both tell me that we're better than this
Post by arizonalovesyou on Mar 1, 2007 14:14:14 GMT -5
Here's the two shows i've seen:
June 30th, 2003 - The Pageant - St. Louis, MO
Dead Leaves & The Dirty Ground St. James Infirmary Black Math From Home When I Hear My Name In The Cold, Cold Night Apple Blossom Sister, Do You Know My Name? We're Going To Be Friends Good To Me I Want To Be The Boy To Warm Your Mother's Heart Seven Nation Army Hotel Yorba You're Pretty Good Looking Lord, Send Me An Angel The Same Boy You've Always Known Jolene (Parton Cover) Isis You've Got Her In Your Pocket Stop Breaking Down The Hardest Button To Button Do I Fought Piranhas Screwdriver ---------------- Fell In Love With A Girl Sugar Never Tasted So Good I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself Boll Weevil
&
August 24th, 2005 - The Fox Theatre - St. Louis, MO
When I Hear My Name Dead Leaves & The Dirty Ground Black Math Blue Orchid My Doorbell Same Boy You've Always Known Screwdriver Passive Manipulation Cannon John The Revelator Let's Shake Hands Forever For Her If I Had Possession Over Judgement Day Death Letter Hotel Yorba In The Cold, Cold Night Instinct Blues The Union Forever The Nurse Cannon Take Take Take The Hardest Button To Button ----------------- You've Got Her In Your Pocket We Are Going To Be Friends Little Ghost Red Rain Sugar Never Tasted So Good Seven Nation Army Boll Weevil
Post by melikecheese on Mar 1, 2007 14:35:07 GMT -5
poopzilla33 said:
wow, i hope that gets released before roo ;D
I think it will be very close. I probably would not mind hearing some songs for the first time at Roo, would be exciting!! Jack has always had a thing about the timelyness of music and the moment. He does not like to spend a lot of time recording the album and once it is done he wants it out. So know we get to see how fast Warner Brothers is. With all the leaking on the net nowadays I am really surprised labels are not pushing albusm out ASAP.
Post by footfootfoot on Mar 1, 2007 16:15:50 GMT -5
melikecheese said:
On a much lighter note, any big collectors here? I got about 55 official releases between all the pressings of the albums, the singles and promos and what not...love to chat about collecting WS swag.
awesome to see another white stripes collector! my favorite items are the upholsterers lp and my rob jones posters.
