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Real simple thread, but one that interests me and makes me curious about who other people see here. I was thinking of bands that have increased greatly in size since last year's Bonnaroo, acts that have gone from underground buzz or a semi-successful single to being a big attraction if they played Bonnaroo 2007. The two that come to mind foremost are Gnarls Barkley & the Raconteurs. At the time of last year's lineup announcement both were virtually nothing, and since have just exploded in size. Gnarls Barkley obviously threw down a track like no other with 'Crazy,' and the Raconteurs have torn up at seemingly every festival but Roo (and Coachella) and are getting pretty good radio play.
What other acts do you think have grown a lot (or will explode) by the announcement/festival?
Some of my other lesser ideas go; Arctic Monkeys - were pretty big by announcement time, but not sure how they'd go at Roo anyways; Arcade Fire - new CD, American tour March-June, could get really big; The Killers - even though the new CD isn't as good as the first, they are still huge (bigger than last year) and were just below headliners at the Goose; Muse - I don't think they really count but I hear them more and more on American radio, which is seemingly catching up to their enormous European status.
Post by steveternal on Dec 7, 2006 14:08:18 GMT -5
Nice thread. I don't think I can add any to your list, so I'll just take a different angle: the one or two bands that play Bonnaroo, then (either because of it or for unrelated reasons or both) explode, usually to come back the following year with a bigger spot (like Umph or Matisyahu). This year didn't appear to have a clear winner, but I'd say the strongest candidate is Mute Math (with Grace Potter in second). They were virtually unknown before 'roo, but by the time June came around that tiny "cafe stage" tent was packed so tight it was going to explode. Then their album was re-released on Warner. I'm sure Lollapalooza didn't hurt either. So if Mute Math were to return next year, which I don't necessarily think will happen, I'm sure they'll get hooked up with a more legitimate spot in one of the main tents.
Yep, that's a good view. If I remember right Mutemath was put up against Radiohead this year? I can't really imagine less fair competition. It's good to hear they still got a good crowd there.
From everything everyone at 'Roo said last year, My Morning Jacket were one of, if not the performance of the festival. I'd imagine they'll return (if it ain't broke, don't fix it) though I'm not sure what spot they'll play. I think they played the second biggest stage a couple times, but the late tent show was really their big moment. On American culture as a whole they haven't really gotten that much bigger, but if they get some new studio stuff out by 07 (which I haven't heard anything about) it could push them that much further and maybe a chance at the biggest stage.
I'm still curious to hear other bands I'm sure I've missed and other stuff. I'll also push off one of my original bands, in Muse. Here in the midwest they got much bigger after the last CD, Supermassive Black Hole and Knights of Cydonia both got lots of radio attention. This also pushed people back into their catalog, which is full of amazing songs, in particular Absolution (my favorite.) What is the view of them in the rest of America? I don't really have many friends across the country to ask, but the people around here have a favorable view.
To me it's strange to see them big but not huge though. It's the same band that headlined a Sunday night of Glastonbury after Oasis and Paul McCartney did the first two nights, yet at Austin City Limits played the fourth biggest stage in a 45 minute set (thank you Tom Petty.) Their 45 minutes were effing amazing though, they rocked so hard that by the end there were thousands of extra people, attendees I assume got drawn over in the trek from Ben Harper to Tom Petty. Any performance at Roo would be awesome, but I think they could come close to MMJ levels of rocking given a long, late night set.
In addition to bands that have grown a lot, and I'm sure there would be lots of disgruntled Roosters, but the Red Hot Chili Peppers have gotten a lot bigger with this last CD. They were already big and had a history of big CD's and huge concerts, but Stadium Arcadium has really pushed them even further. Their shows are more expensive than Coldplay's were in the same venues. Despite the ridiculous prices, as a live band they have improved a lot since before this CD. The lead singer went through something to where he is able to come a lot closer to his studio vocals, and as always the musical backbone is solid. I think they could pull off Bonnaroo, because they have a balance of solid song structure and some good jams. My worry wouldn't be their performance quality, but the crowd they'd bring in. There was some really negative talk about how their fans behaved at Lollapalooza, which was really dissapointing. I'd hoped they'd lost a lot of the idiots when they quit coming on stage with their cox in socks.
Isaac, you are right on with Gnarls. They exploded from Roo time last year. And I would not be surprised to see them at a bigger spot this year, but I guess it depends if they are still touring together or if Danger and Cee-Lo are doing other things at the time. The Raconteurs is another good call but they did not explode as much as Gnarls, as they were probably bigger to begin with if that makes any sense. I could see them as a lead-in to Pearl Jam, kinda like Beck from last year. Going along with steveternal, I see MMJ getting bigger and bigger, although they did have a pretty big spot last year anyway. Depending on Arcade Fire's next album they could get huge. It took practically 2 years for them to get big on the first album, but I think that now they are in play if the next album is good (not even great) they could be the next Interpol/Strokes type hype machine band. I think that Muse could get bigger and bigger. The Lips have definitely gotten alot bigger since At War came out, as seen by them being in headlining spots at other festivals since last time they were are the Roo.
Also, I think that Ted Leo and the Pharms are just one radio hit away from being the next big thing, and it might happen with the record label change and a new album coming out this winter and a opening spot for DCFC. They definitely tour enough. I seriously dont understand why they are not big now, since I think that their stuff is extremely accessible rock and roll.
And these are other bands that have definitely gotten better but this is not off the top of my head, but from the top lists of 06 section (so, yes I am cheating) - The Hold Steady, Wolfmother, TV on the Radio, Band of Horses, and the Coup. But I am not sure how Roo ready any of these guys are.
grace potter and the nocturnals is way up there. they are going to be huge if the keep it up. i kindal liked what i heard when i checked them out. but i had no idea when i showed up taht mornng that id be seeing one of the top shows of the weekend. and although they are already rather big. umphreys mcgee is doing nothing but getting bigger. they are it. they will be headlining in no time. for me this was by far and a way the top show of roo this year. it was my top show of the summer. tea leaf green is another one that is putting on killer performances all the time. and i hope john butler comes back. hes one of those tha just needs people to hear him. because everyone i know loves it once they hear it. assembly of dust also put on a killer show at gathering of the vibes. im guessing you will be seeing them get some better slots at festies this year. martin sexton should be everywhere too. hes great and can join just about any band on stage for some amazing stuff. i think all of these are going to be huge. and im glad some have faded from their 15 minutes of being an overated mtv fad. matisyaWHO???????
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ATL, Gnarls is touring until at least March opening for the RHCP. I don't know what their plans are afterwards, since it will have been touring(ish, they don't play THAT often) for over a year by Roo 07. I would be more than happy to see them at Bonnaroo, like I said I missed them at ACL due to Nickel Creek, (great decision though) as my friend who saw them said that they were very good and a very fun show.
As to the Flaming Lips headlining - I just can't see it. I think they headlined Wakarusa this past year, but I think that's as big as a festival as they can headline. ACL is still a smaller festival than Bonnaroo, and the Lips didn't headline. Provided, they got a great spot as the last spot before Tom Petty, but they weren't headliners. Their show is a lot of fun and they've got great songs, but they are more focused on the circus aspect of a live show over musical chops. What's more, even though they easily have the material, their live shows usually cap at an hour, with some 90 minute exceptions.
The Raconteurs aren't headlining material, and I'm not sure if they'll still be touring by Roo 2007, but I've heard nothing but good things about their live shows and they've grown from "Jack White's Band" to a really solid band. Which speaking of bands getting bigger, if they go back into the studio and record new material, the White Stripes could probably headline a night. I don't know about doing the whole festival like the Saturday night headliner, but they are a big draw and could get bigger with a successful release.
I haven't heard much of Wolfmother but I would be interested in seeing them if they came to the fest. Their performances of "Woman" on various late night shows were quality, with good stage presence, good vocals, and good playing. They seem to have what it takes to be a big deal.
I think Matisiyahu exploded in popularity after his 05 Roo performance. He was afforded a bigger stage and a more attractive time slot this past summer as a result. I think his roo performance had a lot to do with his up surge in poplarity between the 05 and 06 Roos.
As far as this past summer unknowns who will blow up. I think the two that have to top that list are:
Grace Potter and the Nocs. They were a Friday 12:00 noon time slot last roo. I bet they move to later in the day next summer.
The Motet. How many of you were lucky enough to catch this unknown?? Thursday 8:00 pm time slot last roo. They have GOT to be moved into a "weekend" slot this year. They Rocked! I still listen to the CD of the recording from roo in my car from time to time.
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Post by easymorningrebel on Dec 7, 2006 17:03:08 GMT -5
isaac said:
In addition to bands that have grown a lot, and I'm sure there would be lots of disgruntled Roosters, but the Red Hot Chili Peppers have gotten a lot bigger with this last CD. They were already big and had a history of big CD's and huge concerts, but Stadium Arcadium has really pushed them even further. Their shows are more expensive than Coldplay's were in the same venues. Despite the ridiculous prices, as a live band they have improved a lot since before this CD. The lead singer went through something to where he is able to come a lot closer to his studio vocals, and as always the musical backbone is solid. I think they could pull off Bonnaroo, because they have a balance of solid song structure and some good jams. My worry wouldn't be their performance quality, but the crowd they'd bring in. There was some really negative talk about how their fans behaved at Lollapalooza, which was really dissapointing. I'd hoped they'd lost a lot of the idiots when they quit coming on stage with their cox in socks.
I find it hard to believe anyone would want to see RHCP at Bonnaroo.
I find it hard to believe anyone would want to see RHCP at Bonnaroo.
pretty sweeping generalization for a pretty popular band. especially keeping in mind that out of 100,000 people, a sparce few might like to see some BloodSugarSexMagic with their lady or somethin'...
hell yeah dmbfan, the motet was rediculous last year - I was just walking around Thursday and stumbled into that set. Looking back I think that was my favorite set of 'roo last year -
Really good idea with this thread - I think Bonnaroo is always trying to get groups on the cusp on breaking it big. Pretty much any group that is releasing their first major label album after building a lot of 'underground acclaim' next year are likely candidates - Arcade Fire comes to mind.
Thanks Reehash. Glad to know there are others who would enjoy RHCP.
In addition, I think that Derek Trucks is finally starting to get the respect he deserves as the best slide player since Duane so his excellent band could get really big, at least on the live circuit. They're playing Jamcruise and 10lkf so a Bonnaroo performance, whatever time and wherever, would be much deserved.
I agree that Grace Potter should be voted most likely to succeed from last year's Roo.
I also thought that the Dresden Dolls drew well against the Super Jam (and people running around screaming that it was Phish). On the strength of their set I checked them out at Lollapalooza where they had a huge turnout and proved to be just as effective during daylight.
Obviously neither of these acts are headliner material yet but they are deserving of more prominent slots this year. (Although I suspect that Dresden Dolls will get the same one-and-out treatment many non-jambands have gotten.)
I don't think that the Chili Peppers bring the best vibe with them to Roo. They have tons of fans and a giant catalogue but they are a bit more aggressive than most Roo artists. I also have a lingering memory of burning and pillaging after Woodstock '99 but I don't think that it's entirely fair to blame them for that. Either way, there are too many other bands that could be playing to risk it...
Some good points there. About the RHCP being aggressive, I think yet again it's a time/maturity issue. At Woodstock '99 they didn't really do much to help the cause by playing "Fire" after the fires had started, and were onstage being excessively crazy (and naked) I believe.
On this most recent tour they still have some of their funkier/more explicit songs in the set, but from what I've heard and seen (on youtube ) they are much more focused on musicianship than antics.
"Set 1: Can't Stop, Dani California, Scar Tissue, Charlie, Fortune Faded, 21st Century, Parallel Universe, Jam, Hump de Bump, Hey-Oh, Wet Sand, Right on Time, Don't Forget Me, Tell Me Baby, Jam, Californication, By the Way, E: Under the Bridge, Give it Away, Jam"
Taken from November of this most recent tour. I think that kind of show would go over well, provided there weren't too many meathead pricks.
I was not really saying that I thought the Lips were headlining, just thought that they had gotten bigger since this time last year, due to their headlining some stuff. Either way, I would love to see them do another late night set. Maybe they would play for more than an hour and ten minutes.
Also, I would not mind seeing RHCP. I have seen them before and they put on a good show, but I would rather see a Beastie Boys or White Stripes headlining before seeing RHCP. I dont think any of the three are going to happen, as it is probably going to be Pearl Jam in the Saturday night slot.
Post by steveternal on Dec 8, 2006 13:58:08 GMT -5
I'm hearing a lot about Grace Potter, and I do think they're the runners-up in this category, but I feel that she's getting the votes because she already had a bigger fanbase... I mean, she did play on the second stage after all. But Mute Math came from almost nowhere and packed their tent through word-of-mouth. To say nothing of the palpable energy in that tent. I'm sorry so many of you missed it! Oh, and Mute Math played on Saturday around 1 or 2 I think. I remember something about the early schedule, that cafe stage bands were signed up to play during the headliners, but that was soon changed... must have been a mistake.
Oh ATL, I definitely thought you were saying the Lips could now headline a night. Anyways, a late night show would be a real blast, especially if they pushed themselves and played for 90 minutes or two hours. If they don't want to play their own songs (which is a shame, because they've got a great catalog) they could throw in some of their covers, Bohemian Rhapsody & War Pigs & whatever else they fancied. I'd love for them to tackle one of the other three American epics, either Hotel California, Stairway or Freebird.
About Pearl Jam though, I don't mean this negatively as I'd like to see them, but why do you think they're gonna play? Just curious, not trying to be a prick.
About Mutemath - they had a big hold up on this CD but it's really good now that it's released and it seems their live shows are very good. I'll hope they play again this year, I think they could get big.
I can see Grace potter and compamy playing next year. They have really brought their A game this past year and deserve a bigger stage next year.
I would also like to see the Motet, but I don't think they have really taken advantage of thier Bonnaroo set this year. They should be touring more and taking advantage of their acclaim from roo.
I have heard nothing but good things about Tea Leaf Green, but I think there is a chance they might not play roo due to the band dissagreeing with the promoters not to be asked to play this past year..I hope that is not the case though and hope both parties can keep things in the past.
Post by poopzilla33 on Dec 8, 2006 14:47:47 GMT -5
modest mouse has a new album coming out and i'm sure they'd love to prove their better than their last roo performance, cuz they are. everytime they realese a signle they seem to get big again
Another band that came to mind today was Snow Patrol. I don't know how other Roosters feel about them, but they've really exploded on the success of "Chasing Cars." In my mind if DCFC and Bright Eyes can play and be successful, Snow Patrol could do fine at Roo. I would almost certainly watch them, unless there was something really special opposite.
I agree. Snow Patrol is on my list of bands that have a good shot of playing roo next year. I just picked up tickets to see them play in NYC in March. They had sold out their first show, so they posted an extra date.
Oh ATL, I definitely thought you were saying the Lips could now headline a night. Anyways, a late night show would be a real blast, especially if they pushed themselves and played for 90 minutes or two hours. If they don't want to play their own songs (which is a shame, because they've got a great catalog) they could throw in some of their covers, Bohemian Rhapsody & War Pigs & whatever else they fancied. I'd love for them to tackle one of the other three American epics, either Hotel California, Stairway or Freebird.
About Pearl Jam though, I don't mean this negatively as I'd like to see them, but why do you think they're gonna play? Just curious, not trying to be a prick.
About Mutemath - they had a big hold up on this CD but it's really good now that it's released and it seems their live shows are very good. I'll hope they play again this year, I think they could get big.
No biggie. Just been hearing lots of internet rumors about Pearl Jam playing. More of an educated hunch. It makes some sense though. They played a massive tour last year, so this would be more of a one-off (which is why Superfly would want them since they have not just been in your home town or are on the way = bigger draw). Plus they started playing festivals again, with Leeds, Reading, Summerfest, Azkena Rock Festival after having a festival hiatus due to the crowd deaths. It just seems to add up. I feel that they are more likely than Tool or the other options for that Modern Rock night.
Dang LIguy, you editing my post confused the hell out of me. I was trying to figure out how you made my post dissapear for a long time, then it hit me. I'm glad there's at least one more person here who would like to see them. For me they'd fit really well in the DCFC spot from 2006, they're riding high on the waves of Chasing Cars (was IWFYITD for DCFC) but aren't so big that they're a Roo-headliner. Maybe a British festival, but I don't think here. What kind of venue is it in NY? I know that in March they're playing Stubbs in Austin which would be an incredible spot to catch them at.
ATL - I've heard a lot of Pearl Jam rumors too, but I was wondering if you had something just a little bit more. It does make sense for the rumors to start getting serious and more likely, I think this is around the time that Radiohead, TP and Beck were beginning to be talked about a lot so we'll see how they pan out. Anyways, about the modern rock headliner, what about Incubus? They've had a lot of success and have a new album out/ensuing tour. I don't know if they've gotten big enough or if they were in the first place, I have a hampered view of the nation's taste.
Dang LIguy, you editing my post confused the hell out of me. I was trying to figure out how you made my post dissapear for a long time, then it hit me. I'm glad there's at least one more person here who would like to see them. For me they'd fit really well in the DCFC spot from 2006, they're riding high on the waves of Chasing Cars (was IWFYITD for DCFC) but aren't so big that they're a Roo-headliner. Maybe a British festival, but I don't think here. What kind of venue is it in NY? I know that in March they're playing Stubbs in Austin which would be an incredible spot to catch them at.
Sorry about that. My mind has been in the clouds lately. I didn't know what you ment until I scrolled back up. Anyways, I am seeing them at the Theatre @ MSG (Madison Square Garden) on 3/27. Probably sits 5,000, roughly and they are playing with OKGO.
Yeah, I am anxiously awaiting some good rumors to come out. Yesterday, Pitchfork confirmed Lupe Fiasco for Coachella and Lollapallooza, so these things should start trickling out. But I don't have anything other than educated speculation on my Pearl Jam rumors.
Not so sure about Incubus. I really cant see them as a headliner. Don't get me wrong. I do like them, and I think that I have seen them three times live. Good show, but I don't think that they have the Wow factor to be a headliner. When I did see them (this was a few years back) they were the lead in to the headliner at Music Midtown in Atlanta, and they played like third at the Area one tour. I could be missing something and they got bigger in the past year, but I dont think that they have established the "panache" that a Roo headliner should have.
Last year were there any bands confirmed before the lineup announcement? I mean, I know the rumors got pretty serious in December/January, but were there literal confirmations through artists and such?
Incubus kind of confuses me to be honest. I would consider myself a fan certainly, and in this area of Missouri it seems like EVERYONE is a fan. I also know they've played Red Rocks before, which you obviously have to have a good bit of clout to do. However, on this tour it looks like they're playing ~3000 seat venues across America, and I haven't heard much about them since they released this latest album. Whenever I've looked at their live performances on places like Youtube or their Red Rocks show they sound very, very good though.
Wont see the White Stripes, but maybe The Rancantoures. They were at Vegoose and were pretty good. My wife would flip if Snow Patrol came to Roo.
As far as the Chili Peppers, well I saw them many, MANY years ago. Probably wouldn't mind seeing them again, but Ihad VERY different musical tastes then. I don't think I would care for the vibe they would bring to roo, so I have to vote no!
I sure would like to see Pearl Jam though!! Any body see the article about them in Relix a couple of months ago? They were comparing them to The Dead.