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Post by piggy pablo on Dec 2, 2021 12:31:46 GMT -5
There definitely is going to be a breaking point for staying within the character of your festival in people's minds, whether it's explicit in the rules or not. You yourself said you're drafting things Shaky would book if given the chance. That is its own form of realism.
truly the only way to get a fully simulated, realistic draft would be to have a few people acting as the agents. The draft would be done over PMs and each festival would have a budget. So the agents could be like "we will play for this much and for extra, we can be exclusive to your festival". The only issue with this is that it's a lot of work and extremely frustrating, just like booking actual festivals is. The fantasy is the fun part.
III Points draft was kinda like this with budgets and negotiated slots
But for real I think a good chunk of us (maybe even all?) went into this wanting to build a fairly realistic lineup with some obvious leeway.
I took it as “you are taking over this festival and you have a generous budget”. I don’t think the question come voting should be “who booked the lineup closest to their selected festival” but maybe something like “who booked the best lineup with their festival identity in mind”.
We aren’t radically changing Shaky or doing anything they haven’t already done. We’re just putting our own twist on the festival while keeping its core identity strong.
There definitely is going to be a breaking point for staying within the character of your festival in people's minds, whether it's explicit in the rules or not. You yourself said you're drafting things Shaky would book if given the chance. That is its own form of realism.
yeah, given the chance. The unrealistic part is that they don’t actually have the chance.
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There definitely is going to be a breaking point for staying within the character of your festival in people's minds, whether it's explicit in the rules or not. You yourself said you're drafting things Shaky would book if given the chance. That is its own form of realism.
yeah, given the chance. The unrealistic part is that they don’t actually have the chance.
Because Outkast is broken up or because they aren't a rock band?
imo, which James touched on, it's just more important that the other HLs are bigger.
I don't think Lizzo absolutely wouldn't sub Coachella, but I do think she wouldn't under bjork
I think the off limits HL talent are stuff like Rage, Ari, Jay Z, Paul McBuckets, Coldplay, etc.
thats my other issue with it. taking lizzo bumps bjork down on their lineup, for sure. so if bjork got moved to being their strong #4 and lizzo to 3, that means they shouldnt have been able to take bjork
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I think the whole question about whether or not the festival is realistic or not should be considered when you're voting. Like... personally, I'm not going to vote for a Riot Fest lineup with Taylor Swift - Kacey Musgraves - MMJ as the headliners, even though I like all three of those acts, because that doesn't fit the typical Riot Fest style.
But if you're booking your own fest and you want to sabotage it, that's your prerogative.
But for real I think a good chunk of us (maybe even all?) went into this wanting to build a fairly realistic lineup with some obvious leeway.
I took it as “you are taking over this festival and you have a generous budget”. I don’t think the question come voting should be “who booked the lineup closest to their selected festival” but maybe something like “who booked the best lineup with their festival identity in mind”.
We aren’t radically changing Shaky or doing anything they haven’t already done. We’re just putting our own twist on the festival while keeping its core identity strong.
This was my intention all along. I also wanted us to have creative freedom. Like if someone wants to stay 100 percent on brand that's their decision, but if they want to make their own adjustments that's okay too.
Another point of this game was so we don't just rush to take the next best name on the board and we can be more selective. The non-exclusive rule is more about our abilities to curate and less about luck in draft positioning.
voting based on realism is funny because it has absolutely nothing to do with the game. It's like going into the NFL all-time draft voting and saying "yeah idk, just don't think prime Randy Moss would ever be a number 2 WR".
yet people used the approach in our NFL draft anyway
truly the only way to get a fully simulated, realistic draft would be to have a few people acting as the agents. The draft would be done over PMs and each festival would have a budget. So the agents could be like "we will play for this much and for extra, we can be exclusive to your festival". The only issue with this is that it's a lot of work and extremely frustrating, just like booking actual festivals is. The fantasy is the fun part.
imo, which James touched on, it's just more important that the other HLs are bigger.
I don't think Lizzo absolutely wouldn't sub Coachella, but I do think she wouldn't under bjork
I think the off limits HL talent are stuff like Rage, Ari, Jay Z, Paul McBuckets, Coldplay, etc.
thats my other issue with it. taking lizzo bumps bjork down on their lineup, for sure. so if bjork got moved to being their strong #4 and lizzo to 3, that means they shouldnt have been able to take bjork
Sure, but I just explicitly said a couple of posts ago that we weren’t ever planning on doing that.
truly the only way to get a fully simulated, realistic draft would be to have a few people acting as the agents. The draft would be done over PMs and each festival would have a budget. So the agents could be like "we will play for this much and for extra, we can be exclusive to your festival". The only issue with this is that it's a lot of work and extremely frustrating, just like booking actual festivals is. The fantasy is the fun part.
I took it as “you are taking over this festival and you have a generous budget”. I don’t think the question come voting should be “who booked the lineup closest to their selected festival” but maybe something like “who booked the best lineup with their festival identity in mind”.
We aren’t radically changing Shaky or doing anything they haven’t already done. We’re just putting our own twist on the festival while keeping its core identity strong.
This was my intention all along. I also wanted us to have creative freedom. Like if someone wants to stay 100 percent on brand that's their decision, but if they want to make their own adjustments that's okay too.
Another point of this game was so we don't just rush to take the next best name on the board and we can be more selective. The non-exclusive rule is more about our abilities to curate and less about luck in draft positioning.
agreed and I like it.
Festivals go through changes all the time. Wasn’t Kanye headlining Bonnaroo in 2008 a big deal on here? Then Bonnaroo went full LiveNation and we never thought they’d book Tool or Phish again and sure enough, they did.
But for real I think a good chunk of us (maybe even all?) went into this wanting to build a fairly realistic lineup with some obvious leeway.
yes, this.
e.g. if Jortles and I tried to book our 4-6 of like Lorde, Massive Attack and Tame, that'd be ridiculous and I would hope someone would challenge it
but to say we aren't being realistic because Secret Solstice has often had a good number of male acts (like every fest ever lmao) so we shouldn't have a female-dominant top line? i think it's a completely reasonable shift to make in the context of this game lol, just as it is for any fest that often has lots of male acts at the top (again, most all of them!) to draft female HLers too
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