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Post by jorgeandthekraken on Sept 21, 2021 8:31:11 GMT -5
#2 Alien (1979) vs #127 Ad Astra (2019) #63 District 9 (2009) vs #66 Men in Black (1997) #31 Akira (1988) vs #98 Westworld (1973) # 34 A Clockwork Orange (1971) vs #95 Interstellar (2014)
#15 Star Trek (2009) vs #114 Spaceballs (1987) #50 Arrival (2016) vs #79 Attack the Block (2011) #18 Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) vs #111 Tron (1982) #47 Repo Man (1984) vs #82 Avatar (2009)
#7 Metropolis (1927) vs #122 Logan’s Run (1976) #58 The Matrix (1999) vs #71 E.T. The Extra Terrestrial (1982) #26 Gojira (Godzilla) (1954) vs #103 Dredd (2012) #39 Inception (2010) vs #90 The War of the Worlds (1953)
#10 Terminator 2: Judgment Day(1991) vs #119 Starship Troopers (1997) #55 RoboCop (1987) vs #74 Blade Runner 2049 (2017) #23 The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951) vs #106 Midnight Special (2016) #42 Dawn of the Planet of the Apes (2014) vs #87 THX 1138 (1971)
Do you want to dance while also thinking about all the ways you've failed as a human?
UPCOMING SHOWS 5/14 - Neil Young & Crazy Horse @ Forest Hills 6/8 and maybe 6/9 - Governors Ball 8/17 - King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard @ Forest Hills 9/4 - Pearl Jam @ MSG 9/7 - Pearl Jam @ Wells Fargo Center 9/11 - St. Vincent @ Brooklyn Paramount
#4 Aliens (1986) vs #125 The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy (2005) #61 The Abyss (1989) vs #68 Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016) #29 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) vs #100 Possessor (2020) #36 The Thing (1982) vs #93 Hard to Be a God (2013)
#13 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) vs #116 A Boy and His Dog (1975) #52 Looper (2012) vs #77 Snowpiercer (2013) #20 Jurassic Park (1993) vs #109 Cloverfield (2008) #45 The Fly (1986) vs #84 Sorry to Bother You (2018)
#5 Back to the Future (1985) vs #124 Rollerball (1975) #60 Planet of the Apes (1968) vs #69 Minority Report (2002) #28 Live. Die. Repeat: Edge of Tomorrow (2014) vs #101 Primer (2004) #37 Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) vs #92 The Vast of Night (2019)
#12 The Iron Giant (1999) vs #117 A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001) #53 Them! (1954) vs #76 The Host (2006) #21 Forbidden Planet (1956) vs #108 Independence Day (1996) #44 12 Monkeys (1995) vs #85 Dark City (1998)
Independence Day is half of a great movie and half of a really dumb one. I really like Cloverfield and Edge of Tomorrow. Those were hard outs.
Independence Day is half of a great movie and half of a really dumb one. I really like Cloverfield and Edge of Tomorrow. Those were hard outs.
If they could just digitally replace Randy Quaid's cornball acting it would be much better.
I heard Paul F Tompkins on Blank Check (Mars Attacks! episode) and his thing about Independence Day is when they're prepping for the final battle he's like "I'd love to get payback for these alien assholes who abducted me". And the other pilots are like "geez, this weirdo. Ok.."
But there ARE aliens. They already know they exist and they've destroyed everything. So why are they treating him like a crank?
But yeah I think ID4 rules right up until Will Smith punches an alien in its *helmet*, not its actual face, and of course, "Welcome to Earth!" Everything after that is goofy. But still dumb fun, I guess.
Post by SupeЯfuЯЯyanimal on Sept 21, 2021 19:20:35 GMT -5
#2 Alien (1979) vs #127 Ad Astra (2019) #63 District 9 (2009) vs #66 Men in Black (1997) #31 Akira (1988) vs #98 Westworld (1973) # 34 A Clockwork Orange (1971) vs #95 Interstellar (2014)
#15 Star Trek (2009) vs #114 Spaceballs (1987) #50 Arrival (2016) vs #79 Attack the Block (2011) #18 Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) vs #111 Tron (1982) #47 Repo Man (1984) vs #82 Avatar (2009)
#7 Metropolis (1927) vs #122 Logan’s Run (1976) #58 The Matrix (1999) vs #71 E.T. The Extra Terrestrial (1982) #26 Gojira (Godzilla) (1954) vs #103 Dredd (2012) #39 Inception (2010) vs #90 The War of the Worlds (1953)
#10 Terminator 2: Judgment Day(1991) vs #119 Starship Troopers (1997) #55 RoboCop (1987) vs #74 Blade Runner 2049 (2017) #23 The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951) vs #106 Midnight Special (2016) (abstain) #42 Dawn of the Planet of the Apes (2014) vs #87 THX 1138 (1971)
Yea I liked the first Men in Black a lot too. I’ve must have seen it’s a least 10 times but District 9 was the better movie. The character development, story, setting etc was more interesting to me. MIB was a good popcorn flick.
Paul Verhoeven is honestly one of the most prescient science fiction filmmakers of our time. We are literally seeing his worlds come to life in out time. More in the political and social realm than In technology but he was a satirist so..,
And two of his movies will be gone this round. One probably deservedly so against T2. Robocop should win tho.
Voerhoven was one of the few who had 3 films in this bracket. Definitely one of the godfathers of modern sci-fi.
17 other directors have two films here. I tallied them all up below in the spoiler.
Spielberg: 5 James Cameron: 5 David Cronenberg: 3 Ridley Scott: 3 Paul Voerhoven: 3 JJ Abrams: 2 Danny Boyle: 2 John Carpenter: 2 Alfonso Cuaron: 2 Guillermo Del Toro: 2 Alex Garland: 2 (well, 3 if you count Dredd) Terry Gilliam: 2 Bong Joon Ho: 2 Duncan Jones: 2 Stanley Kubrick: 2 George Lucas: 2 George Miller: 2 Christopher Nolan: 2 Matt Reeves: 2 Andrei Tarkovsky: 2 Denis Villeneuve: 2 Robert Zemeckis: 2
Interesting that TFA got nominated for this while TLJ, a better movie with more interesting ideas, did not.
I love the Last Jedi. I've defended it numerous times on this board in this thread and the Star Wars thread. I think it's by far the best of the Disney era Star Wars and I'll always claim that. But I went with Force Awakens because it's just too big to ignore. It's a $2 billion grosser internationally, and still the highest domestic grosser. Not even Endgame could beat it in its home turf.
And everyone loved The Force Awakens when it first came out. People were so stoked and relieved that it washed out the bad after taste of the prequels. It wasnt until months later that the noise about it tracing over A New Hope got loud enough for people to even notice.
As for Rogue One I felt it the less controversial choice. I could have included numerous more Star Wars and Star Trek films but felt it safer to cap it at 4 each.
I like TFA. I just think TLJ is clearly the best of the new ones.
This opinion isn't very popular but I really didn't care for Rogue One at all. Characters were very flat and the movie started slow to me.
It seems like, for most people, it's Rogue One or TLJ. Rogue One for people who think Star Wars should be Star Wars, TLJ for people who think that's stale.
I like TFA. I just think TLJ is clearly the best of the new ones.
This opinion isn't very popular but I really didn't care for Rogue One at all. Characters were very flat and the movie started slow to me.
It seems like, for most people, it's Rogue One or TLJ. Rogue One for people who think Star Wars should be Star Wars, TLJ for people who think that's stale.
Shower thought: I wonder how many people would feel differently about Rogue One without the Darth Vader-slaughters-everybody scene, which I believe I read was a late addition in reshoots. I know it's not like, central to the plot, but it's the one thing literally everyone I know who's seen the film comments on.
Do you want to dance while also thinking about all the ways you've failed as a human?
UPCOMING SHOWS 5/14 - Neil Young & Crazy Horse @ Forest Hills 6/8 and maybe 6/9 - Governors Ball 8/17 - King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard @ Forest Hills 9/4 - Pearl Jam @ MSG 9/7 - Pearl Jam @ Wells Fargo Center 9/11 - St. Vincent @ Brooklyn Paramount
I like TFA. I just think TLJ is clearly the best of the new ones.
This opinion isn't very popular but I really didn't care for Rogue One at all. Characters were very flat and the movie started slow to me.
It seems like, for most people, it's Rogue One or TLJ. Rogue One for people who think Star Wars should be Star Wars, TLJ for people who think that's stale.
Shower thought: I wonder how many people would feel differently about Rogue One without the Darth Vader-slaughters-everybody scene, which I believe I read was a late addition in reshoots. I know it's not like, central to the plot, but it's the one thing literally everyone I know who's seen the film comments on.
It did have the unique-to-the-Star-Wars-universe thing of
Shower thought: I wonder how many people would feel differently about Rogue One without the Darth Vader-slaughters-everybody scene, which I believe I read was a late addition in reshoots. I know it's not like, central to the plot, but it's the one thing literally everyone I know who's seen the film comments on.
It did have the unique-to-the-Star-Wars-universe thing of
Do you want to dance while also thinking about all the ways you've failed as a human?
UPCOMING SHOWS 5/14 - Neil Young & Crazy Horse @ Forest Hills 6/8 and maybe 6/9 - Governors Ball 8/17 - King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard @ Forest Hills 9/4 - Pearl Jam @ MSG 9/7 - Pearl Jam @ Wells Fargo Center 9/11 - St. Vincent @ Brooklyn Paramount