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Keep in mind that they're still only all around 20 years old. Can't imagine a band in a bar playing that is younger (or their age) playing a lot better than them. I'm not an expert in guitarplay (or whatever instrument you're playing) but I do think they can grow a lot in the coming years.
Both Robert Plant and John Bonham were only 21 when Led Zeppelin II came out
Guess I gotta listen to this album if I wanna hop on the hate train.
It'll be tricky because as I get older I hate music less.
just finished a full listen of 'Anthem of The Peaceful Army".
GVF truly does sound exactly like Led Zeppelin. Exactly like Led Zeppelin. I've never listened to a band that sounds as much like another band.
Having said that, I've long complained about the overproduction in current "alt nation" type rock and roll music. That super slick, uber clean 30 Seconds To Mars sound. On the other end of the spectrum, I've also often complained about many indie rock bands intentionally smudging their sound, drowning their instrumentation in shitty mixing and putting so many effects on the vocals that all you are left with is a messy wall of sound that is intended to make the music feel big and provocative, but in actuality makes it feel small and impactless, easy to just let it slip into the background.
So what I do like about this GVF record is that, in pursuit of a sound exactly like Led Zeppelin's, the mixing and mastering of the record suffers none of the sins described above. It sounds like a reasonably well mastered and mixed rock record from the early 70s, without any production tricks, which is to say it sounds good. I can hear every bass note and every drum beat. The guitars have a satisfying midrange crunch, the vocals aren't pushed forward in the mix and are instead just present. I can latch my ears onto any instrument and follow it throughout the song. There is tons of air and space in the recording. I'm on headphones now, but am actually looking forward to cranking this on the home speakers.
I rarely listen to rock lyrics unless I get really into an artist, so I can't comment on them. The songwriting doesn't blow me away but it's catchy enough, there were maybe two songs I actively disliked. As others have stated, I imagine this would be a fun show to just rock out to.
What I can't forgive is that they sound exactly like Led Zeppelin. It's so unoriginal that I don't think I could ever call myself a fan. When I first became aware of Interpol around their second record, I disliked them right away because they sounded so much like Joy Division, too much. But in terms of pure originality, Interpol is Frank Zappa compared to GVF.
Finally, I'll just say the members of this band are kids. Maybe this is a starting point and they'll develop into something more original. My hopes aren't necessarily high for that, but I'll follow their career to see if anything interesting happens, and if I'm at a festival they are at with absolutely nothing else going on, I'd check out their set.
Tbh, I already think they've grown and diversified their sound from their double ep (From The Fires), in that double ep all the songs are pretty much rock bangers (as Led Zep did in Immigrant Song or whatever). I think 'When The Curtains Fall' is the closest to the songs on that ep. Like I actually think they tried to bring more to the table (see f.e. that intro song or closing track 'Anthem') than they've ever done.
Here's also an interview with CoS that got released today.
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Guess I gotta listen to this album if I wanna hop on the hate train.
It'll be tricky because as I get older I hate music less.
just finished a full listen of 'Anthem of The Peaceful Army".
GVF truly does sound exactly like Led Zeppelin. Exactly like Led Zeppelin. I've never listened to a band that sounds as much like another band.
Having said that, I've long complained about the overproduction in current "alt nation" type rock and roll music. That super slick, uber clean 30 Seconds To Mars sound. On the other end of the spectrum, I've also often complained about many indie rock bands intentionally smudging their sound, drowning their instrumentation in shitty mixing and putting so many effects on the vocals that all you are left with is a messy wall of sound that is intended to make the music feel big and provocative, but in actuality makes it feel small and impactless, easy to just let it slip into the background.
So what I do like about this GVF record is that, in pursuit of a sound exactly like Led Zeppelin's, the mixing and mastering of the record suffers none of the sins described above. It sounds like a reasonably well mastered and mixed rock record from the early 70s, without any production tricks, which is to say it sounds good. I can hear every bass note and every drum beat. The guitars have a satisfying midrange crunch, the vocals aren't pushed forward in the mix and are instead just present. I can latch my ears onto any instrument and follow it throughout the song. There is tons of air and space in the recording. I'm on headphones now, but am actually looking forward to cranking this on the home speakers.
I rarely listen to rock lyrics unless I get really into an artist, so I can't comment on them. The songwriting doesn't blow me away but it's catchy enough, there were maybe two songs I actively disliked. As others have stated, I imagine this would be a fun show to just rock out to.
What I can't forgive is that they sound exactly like Led Zeppelin. It's so unoriginal that I don't think I could ever call myself a fan. When I first became aware of Interpol around their second record, I disliked them right away because they sounded so much like Joy Division, too much. But in terms of pure originality, Interpol is Frank Zappa compared to GVF.
Finally, I'll just say the members of this band are kids. Maybe this is a starting point and they'll develop into something more original. My hopes aren't necessarily high for that, but I'll follow their career to see if anything interesting happens, and if I'm at a festival they are at with absolutely nothing else going on, I'd check out their set.
Ok now I have to say how they do not sound exactly like Zeppelin. The power is missing. The groove is missing. That guy does a pretty good Plant imitation but he sounds forced and can't near as well as Plant. They try really hard and definitely sound a lot like a band trying to sound like Zep more than they actually sound like Zep.
By the time George Harrison turned 22, The Beatles had released Please Please Me, With The Beatles, Hard Day's Night, and Beatles For Sale.
What's crazier is after Please Please Me was finished in '62 (and finished their teeny bopping in 1965) they went on to record Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt. Pepper, MMT, White Album, and Abbey Road in just a five year stretch. This is a thought that pops into my head when people try to discredit their place. They accomplished a lot in a very short time.
edit: no offense to a bands like Radiohead, but how long does it take for them to write/record some of these records? I do realize they were more productive earlier in their career so there's probably a better example, but still. Young Macca, George, and Lennon were literally on fire at the time.
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Another meme..: * front man screams in his lyrics * - is this Robert Plant?
Kinda silly if you can't hear the difference between both. Plant has more depth in his voice, sounds a bit like he smoked a tad more. Jake sounds more powerful but doesn't sound as deep as Plant, squeeky even? (idk if that's the right word but it feels like the right word for his voice at times). GvF are easily more eclectic/powerful (but that also has to do with the fact that they're playing this sound right now and not in the 70s, I guess?) than Led Zep but I think Led Zep has more structure, more depth (again), more layers and take the time to let a song really breath on it's own. The groove is missing.. Eh, I guess.
They pull from a lot more bands than they actually sound like. Sometimes I wonder if those comments on Facebook under those CoS articles are from legit Led Zep fans or are just people who are jumping on the bandwagon and fueling the whole 'Led Zep-coverband' even more.
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Another meme..: * front man screams in his lyrics * - is this Robert Plant?
Kinda silly if you can't hear the difference between both. Plant has more depth in his voice, sounds a bit like he smoked a tad more. Jake sounds more powerful but doesn't sound as deep as Plant. GvF are easily more eclectic/powerful than Led Zep but I think Led Zep has more structure, more depth (again), more layers and take the time to let a song really breath on it's own. The groove is missing.. Eh, I guess.
They pull from a lot more bands than they actually sound like. Sometimes I wonder if those comments on Facebook under those CoS articles are from legit Led Zep fans or are just people who are jumping on the bandwagon and fueling the whole 'Led Zep-coverband' even more.
By the time George Harrison turned 22, The Beatles had released Please Please Me, With The Beatles, Hard Day's Night, and Beatles For Sale.
What's crazier is after Please Please Me was finished in '62 (and finished their teeny bopping in 1965) they went on to record Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt. Pepper, MMT, White Album, and Abbey Road in just a five year stretch. This is a thought that pops into my head when people try to discredit their place. They accomplished a lot in a very short time.
Basically every fact about The Beatles sounds like a joke when you say it out loud.
What's crazier is after Please Please Me was finished in '62 (and finished their teeny bopping in 1965) they went on to record Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt. Pepper, MMT, White Album, and Abbey Road in just a five year stretch. This is a thought that pops into my head when people try to discredit their place. They accomplished a lot in a very short time.
Basically every fact about The Beatles sounds like a joke when you say it out loud.
After recording Love Me Do, P S I Love You, Please Please Me and Ask Me Why in 1962, the remaining 10 tracks for The Beatles first album, Please Please Me, took just ten hours to record.
It took 129 days and 400 hours of studio time to record and complete Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.
Another meme..: * front man screams in his lyrics * - is this Robert Plant?
Kinda silly if you can't hear the difference between both. Plant has more depth in his voice, sounds a bit like he smoked a tad more. Jake sounds more powerful but doesn't sound as deep as Plant, squeeky even? (idk if that's the right word but it feels like the right word for his voice at times). GvF are easily more eclectic/powerful (but that also has to do with the fact that they're playing this sound right now and not in the 70s, I guess?) than Led Zep but I think Led Zep has more structure, more depth (again), more layers and take the time to let a song really breath on it's own. The groove is missing.. Eh, I guess.
They pull from a lot more bands than they actually sound like. Sometimes I wonder if those comments on Facebook under those CoS articles are from legit Led Zep fans or are just people who are jumping on the bandwagon and fueling the whole 'Led Zep-coverband' even more.
What? I like Greta Van Fleet and know enough about them as to how they came up with their sound. But they are nowhere near as powerful or heavy as Led Zeppelin in any possible way. Obviously not all Zeppelin is power shit (That’s the Way, Bron-Yr-Ar, In the Light, Going to California, Rain Song), but it’s all heavy. They did some fun radio hits like The Ocean and whatever. And there’s plenty of deep blues from I all the way through Presence. There’s even some country like Black Country Woman or Down by the Seaside. Yet for all that there’s Nobody’s Fault, Dazed and Confused, Communication Breakdown, Black Dog, etc that Greta Van Fleet could ever hope to play anything or ever hope to sound that powerful.
I also love that I have no idea what Bing is going to like and what he's not. Haha. Way to go man, surprising us all (assuming I'm not the only one).
What do you mean? I really like their music but objectively I've to agree on certain spots that that reviewer of Pitchfork touches on in his "review". I'm a fan of Post Malone and even dig a lot of Twenty One Pilots but a lot of people hate both on here and that's fine. Everyone has their own taste. I'm not gonna pretend both are dropping the most cutting edge content with only lyrical highlights in their songs (same goes to GvF). For that shit I'll listen to something else.
And here I am trying to understand why you told me few times that you didn’t like the LGW? lineup.
I'm too lazy to read thread to see if this has been said but who gives a fuck if they sound like Led Zeppelin? GVF put on a fun live show. Isn't that all that really matters? This whole debate is wasting energy that could be used fighting real evil, like imagine dragons.
Lots of good points on both sides of the spectrum regarding GVF.
The main people that bring up GVF with me in conversation are over 50 which speaks volumes. I got to see them in a small club for $10 last fall by sacrificing ohGr's set before KMFDM in NOLA and it was worth it.
They sounded great and everyone was loving every second. It def has to be strange to be handsome super young guys and have your shows packed out with middle aged dudes though.
Just read that Pitchfork review and while I enjoy rolling my eyes at most hot takes this guy had me cracking up and I can't argue with him much. "Greta Van Fleet sound like they did weed exactly once, called the cops, and tried to record a Led Zeppelin album before they arrested themselves."
Was def hoping this album would be more heavy Zeppelin-ey but am grateful nothing will get trapped in my head like "meeeeet on the edgeeeeee". Cringed pretty hard when I heard "ice & snow" in one of the lyrics. Really dude? C'mon
Just looked up how much this coming tour costs and ATL is like $75 with fees. Are you fn kidding me? Glad I got to see them in a club, it was fun, but don't see myself seeing them again unless they play a festival I'm at.
Not necessarily saying that the level of copying is even comparable, but I'm always surprised this doesn't come up more in GVF discussions. I (somewhat) get why Zeppelin is so beloved, but it's also not like they were paragons of originality either
I only did a few hours ago, on my way back home from school, LZ IV. (and after that Lateralus from Tool lol)
IV is the seminal release, but it's not the greatest work. I don't know if I could really rank the albums fairly because they all have their place. But if I had to, I wouldn't include Coda which was released after Bonham's death and was a mix of original studio stuff and some reworks from their earliest days. Also, In Through the Out Door I never liked all that much. One of these days I'll have to go back and listen to it. The only thing I really liked about that album was trying to figure out what the puzzle of the 6 different album covers were. They all showed scenes from the same room, and we assumed there was something buried within. I was the one (at least in our neighborhood) who figured out that the paint brush streak of color across the album's otherwise B&W cover corresponded to the inner sleeve being a paint by water picture. It was a revelation to a 16 year old. hahah
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1) Led Zeppelin III - Doesn't sound like any of the other albums. Very psychedelic tinged. I think Page had a big hand in writing a lot of the work here. Very mystical and abstract. Specifically, That's the Way, Celebration Day, Friends and Hats Off to Roy Harper are personal favorites.
2) Presence - This was the last great album they released. Presence rules all across. It's decidedly not commercial even though they were probably at their peak of popularity then. Tea for One, Royal Orleans, Nobody's Fault but Mine, Achiles Last Stand are my favorite tracks.
3) Physical Graffiti - Double album with a lot of great shit on it as well as some random filler songs. Ten Years Gone, Night Flight, Kashmir, In My Time of Dying and the haunting Page acoustic Bron-Yr-Aur are my favorite songs on this.
4) Houses of the Holy - Rain Song, Over the Hills and Far Away, No Quarter, The Crunge and Song Remains the Same all killer
5) Led Zeppelin 2 - This was the first album I ever owned by them which I got when I was about 15. This was them in their no-holds-barred blues explosion. Bring It on Home, Ramble On, Moby Dick and the cover tune The Lemon Song were my favorites on this. Thank You was actually the official song of me and my ex-wife. Haha
6) Zeppelin IV - Four Sticks, Going to California, When the Levee Breaks, Misty Mountain Hop, Battle of Evermore are all f'n great. Stairway to Heaven was as overplayed as Bohemian Rhapsody, Freebird and all the other classic rock songs they played too often. While this album was a masterpiece, it was overplayed in my neighborhood and by school friends and shit. You couldn't get away from it, so I soured a bit on it.
7) Zeppelin I - For a first album, this was about as strong as the Doors first album with The End, Back Door Man and Break On Through. It had some anthem moments and pays ridiculous tribute to Mississippi Delta Blues which is a foundation of what they are and what they play. How Many More Times, Good Times Bad Times, Communications Breakdown, Dazed and Confused, You Shook Me, I Can't Quit You Baby etc. are all great blues-influenced power emitting songs. I still think it gets an "A" even if it's my "least" favorite of the main 7 albums. I still love the fuck out of it.
Basically every fact about The Beatles sounds like a joke when you say it out loud.
After recording Love Me Do, P S I Love You, Please Please Me and Ask Me Why in 1962, the remaining 10 tracks for The Beatles first album, Please Please Me, took just ten hours to record.
It took 129 days and 400 hours of studio time to record and complete Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.
That's like me at a new job. First month I bang out three scripts in a day. Month six I am offended they'd even suggest I write something today.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Jun 14, 2019 20:46:40 GMT -5
Just saw their SNL performance. 3 out of 4 of the band have perfect, square teeth. I don't trust them. Do they come from money? I just learned there are 3 brothers in the band.
Just saw their SNL performance. 3 out of 4 of the band have perfect, square teeth. I don't trust them. Do they come from money? I just learned there are 3 brothers in the band.
it definitely wasnt the worst SNL of the season (man, they really sucked it up this year on the tunes), but it wasn't exciting and definitely didn't make me want to re evaluate them as a group.