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I don't wholeheartedly agree with Jess. I think some of his points were spot on but the indie/trendy and hip hop thing was grasping.
Why you wait until after the bulk of this discussion to say this is beyond me. Probably should have lead off with "I think Jess is wrong on X and Y, but he might have a point with a lack of jam bands." That changes the entire tone of the discussion rather than siding up next to the guy who is making insane claims and arguing with anyone who disagrees with them.
Yeah, some more jam bands would be cool, but there is quite a limited pool to choose from and people get more upset with repeating acts than they do too much/little of a certain genre.
I hear ya. I was agreeing with Jess on diversity issues in the lineup. Lack of jam and reggae is a big deal to me and most of the people I know. Macca and Bjork are awesome but not worth the price alone for me. I've seen wu-tang and petty before and while both were good times, they weren't anywhere near top concert experiences for me. Mumford can diaf. There just isn't much pull on this lineup when I compare the bands I'll be missing at another fest to catch 2 or 3 bucket list style artists at roo. That's what I've loved about roo for the past few years. I can catch some amazing acts I'd never see and still be able to catch a couple bands that I make my plans around each year.
Let me start by saying I think the lineup is great this year and I don't mind the lack of jam bands. However, Bonnaroo books these 10-15 jam bands to death because people will travel specifically to see a jam band. There were Umphrey's Mcgee fans last year that bought tickets only because Umphrey's was going to be playing a 2 am-sunrise set. These trendy indie bands don't have the same followings that will travel as jam bands
Most jam bands tour their butts off and you can basically see them every year if you want and if you live in the southeast you have more of a chance. I know Umphrey's comes to Charlotte 2-3 times a year. I know jam bands have loyal fans, but I doubt there were too many fans that bought a $250 ticket to see Umphrey's. If they did it was a very bad investment
I will also say that one thing I love about music festivals is that I get to see a good bit of acts I wouldnt normally get to see bc they do not come to Charlotte.
Most Umphrey's fans will see the band more than 2-3 times per year.
I'm getting a huge kick out of the PhD Bonnaroo historians in here who apparently don't know that this isn't the full lineup. You can bet your first born the heady jamzzzzzz will be fleshed out a bit in the additions (not that I would care if they weren't).
Also, a shocking number of folks in various threads have nonchalantly thrown out Wu-Tang as the "greatest hip hop/rap group of all time" like that was just obviously true and common knowledge. Really? NWA? Public Enemy? Beasties? Found that incredibly curious.
I think if we're being honest we can all admit that the Headliners are very underwhelming. Possibly the worst ever.
I'm not a fan of Mumford or the Grammy's, but the fact they just won album of the year is kind of a big deal, not to mention the fact that in 2012 Babel was 4th on Billboard highest selling album, and 2011 Sigh No More was 6th. Paul McCartney is a Beatle. Tom Petty is a legend, and is breaking the mould of jam-band headliner.
The additions are never substantial and shouldn't be depended on for the fleshing out of any imaginary perceived lack in the lineup.
This. I fell into this trap last year expecting a metal band or two to be added in the additions (tent sized not cafe acts). It did not turn out at all.
So who are this years contenders for the Alabama Shakes/Sleigh Bells Thursday overflowing tent? I'm going with Alt-J or Django Django.
Purity Ring will definitely be this years Alabama Shakes/Sleigh Bells. Alt-J is nice but to me Purity Ring is bigger. An Alt-J/Purity Ring schedule conflict scares me for Thursday night
You're just too young to grasp how stylin' I really was. All the boys wanted to do me when I was 5. Actually the girls did too. My haircut was confusing.
I think if we're being honest we can all admit that the Headliners are very underwhelming. Possibly the worst ever.
I'm not a fan of Mumford or the Grammy's, but the fact they just won album of the year is kind of a big deal, not to mention the fact that in 2012 Babel was 4th on Billboard highest selling album, and 2011 Sigh No More was 6th. Paul McCartney is a Beatle. Tom Petty is a legend, and is breaking the mould of jam-band headliner.
I'm confused by the words you type.
I guess troyaikman likes his headliners like he likes his boobs. Small and not fake.
I had a pic, but I know you guys are tired of those.
I'm not a fan of Mumford or the Grammy's, but the fact they just won album of the year is kind of a big deal, not to mention the fact that in 2012 Babel was 4th on Billboard highest selling album, and 2011 Sigh No More was 6th. Paul McCartney is a Beatle. Tom Petty is a legend, and is breaking the mould of jam-band headliner.
I'm confused by the words you type.
I guess troyaikman likes his headliners like he likes his boobs. Small and not fake.
I had a pic, but I know you guys are tired of those.
According to Skip Bayless in the 1990s (reliable source), Troy Aikman doesn't like any boobs.
The additions are never substantial and shouldn't be depended on for the fleshing out of any imaginary perceived lack in the lineup.
This. I fell into this trap last year expecting a metal band or two to be added in the additions (tent sized not cafe acts). It did not turn out at all.
I don't know what you guys are talking about. Atoms For Peace, Mastodon, and Phish are all reasonable acts that could be added.
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Aug 2 - Beyoncé and Jay-Z
Aug 23-24 - FYF Fest
Sept 17 - The Breeders
Sept 22 - Lykke Li
Oct 6 - Ought
Are we really thinking Tame Impala is a Thursday band? I definitely thought they were bigger than that. I'd prefer they played a day slot Friday or Saturday, cause I can already see conflicts galore on Thursday
This. I fell into this trap last year expecting a metal band or two to be added in the additions (tent sized not cafe acts). It did not turn out at all.
I don't know what you guys are talking about. Atoms For Peace, Mastodon, and Phish are all reasonable acts that could be added.
Be nice. The original point was more that jam bands would certainly be added to the line-up with additions which may happen but is fair from certain.
P.S. Mastodon is in Europe during Roo. Don't play with Jugs's emotions like that.
Post by Boston Powers on Feb 20, 2013 18:27:32 GMT -5
I'm thinking Tame will be the Alabama Shakes of Thursday 2013.
On the jam bands - I'm a jam fan but I also hate moe. because they are very boring. So, on the bright side, at least we didn't get moe. I'd prefer no jam bands at all, to only having moe.
Besides we all know they're going to add Galactic and and Sound Tribe in a month.
I guess troyaikman likes his headliners like he likes his boobs. Small and not fake.
I had a pic, but I know you guys are tired of those.
According to Skip Bayless in the 1990s (reliable source), Troy Aikman doesn't like any boobs.
Hail to the Redskins.
The real Troy Aikman is married with children and has three rings. Redskins suck. I don't know what the Troy Aikman on this thread is smoking, but he should share.
I don't know what you guys are talking about. Atoms For Peace, Mastodon, and Phish are all reasonable acts that could be added.
Be nice. The original point was more that jam bands would certainly be added to the line-up with additions which may happen but is fair from certain.
P.S. Mastodon is in Europe during Roo. Don't play with Jugs's emotions like that.
I wasn't speaking for any genre but the stereotypical All Good/Waka/GOTV "jam" scene. DBs, Umph, JBT, Galactic, Ween, G. Love, Rod y Gab, all have been added before, and only last year had no real jam adds, probably because the initial lineup was pretty well saturated already. Just seems like an incredibly safe assumption to me.
Be nice. The original point was more that jam bands would certainly be added to the line-up with additions which may happen but is fair from certain.
P.S. Mastodon is in Europe during Roo. Don't play with Jugs's emotions like that.
I wasn't speaking for any genre but the stereotypical All Good/Waka/GOTV "jam" scene. DBs, Umph, JBT, Galactic, Ween, G. Love, Rod y Gab, all have been added before, and only last year had no real jam adds, probably because the initial lineup was pretty well saturated already. Just seems like an incredibly safe assumption to me.
I agree that it is a pretty safe bet, but wagering a child seemed to be a little more sure. I just think people are taking it from pretty safe to 100% lock and may end up disappointed with the additions (however unlikely). One could easily say that having more than one jam band on the initial lineup would have been an incredibly safe bet as well.