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I like it a lot, but as is usually the case with highly anticipated albums, it didn't meet expectations. It's still really good, and I've been listening to it every day since it first leaked, but I wanted more old-school sounding stuff, to be honest.
If you've been hoping to stream the Black Keys' El Camino free-of-charge and legally, you're out of luck. Digital Music News (via the Los Angeles Times) reports that the band has decided not to offer the album on streaming services like Spotify, Rdio and Rhapsody. The Times speculates that this is likely out of fear that album sales would suffer if they did. Coldplay did the same thing when Mylo Xyloto came out.
This is dumb. By doing this you are forceing people to either pay or download for free. If they stream their music through these sites they are still collecting royalties per play. Hopefully after a few months they will offer up the album after the buzz is over
Post by RadioSpirit on Dec 8, 2011 20:41:16 GMT -5
Yeah, instead of giving them listens on Spotify this week, I have to wait until I go home tomorrow and download the album through other means that won't reward them at all.
Yeah, instead of giving them listens on Spotify this week, I have to wait until I go home tomorrow and download the album through other means that won't reward them at all.
Yeah, instead of giving them listens on Spotify this week, I have to wait until I go home tomorrow and download the album through other means that won't reward them at all.
So you're saying they're making you rip them off?
Radiospirt's got a point though. There are way more people out there who are going to say "I can't stream the album, I'll just illegally download it" than there are "I can't stream the album, I'll just spend $10 on iTunes."
So if people can't listen to it legally for free they will just listen to it illegally for free? Nice.
I am not one of those people. Or I am, actually, when I burn a CD my daughter paid for at a retail store. I'm fuzzy on why I think one is less unethical than the other.
So if people can't listen to it legally for free they will just listen to it illegally for free?
Yes, I think a lot of people would.
If someone's a big fan of The Black Keys (or any band for that matter), there's a good chance they'll purchase it anyway, be it a digital or physical copy. If someone knows just a couple hits off Brothers and is curious, they'd probably be much more likely to download it illegally.
Yeah, I think if this keeps up we'll end up with adverts embedded in the tunes. Coca-Cola will be paying the Kinks to use their product name instead of suing them for doing it.
Radiospirt's got a point though. There are way more people out there who are going to say "I can't stream the album, I'll just illegally download it" than there are "I can't stream the album, I'll just spend $10 on iTunes."
I get that. But I think it's wrong to take an artists work and not pay them. This may be a generational thing.
Yeah, I think if this keeps up we'll end up with adverts embedded in the tunes. Coca-Cola will be paying the Kinks to use their product name instead of suing them for doing it.
It was a BBC policy that made them change the lyric - not a lawsuit. And, back to the generational thing, for those of you born after 1970, quacker's referring to the song "Lola."
Radiospirt's got a point though. There are way more people out there who are going to say "I can't stream the album, I'll just illegally download it" than there are "I can't stream the album, I'll just spend $10 on iTunes."
I get that. But I think it's wrong to take an artists work and not pay them. This may be a generational thing.
There is some relativity here though, if I download an album I can't stream and like and listen to it all the time I will buy a copy, typically at a live show if it is feasible so they get more money. If I download it think it is a stinker and never listen to it I am a little more Laissez-faire about the whole thing and equate to borrowing an album in and making a tape back in the pre internet days. Which pretty was common in pretty much every generation that had tape players and albums.
Post by papa steve on Dec 11, 2011 11:23:33 GMT -5
Worried that a band doesn't have to sale out to become famous? Worried that hard work actually pays off? Or worried that a band you liked might actually be getting a little reconization?
I've only listened to the album once all the way through, but I like it a lot. Not there best IMO but still a good album. I like better than Brothers tho
Post by RadioSpirit on Dec 11, 2011 22:20:18 GMT -5
Buying an album doesn't actually give an artist money. The label puts up the money to record the album, so they claim the vast majority of the sales, along with the retailer. It's why most artists could care less about you illegally downloading their shit. I can't say how many shows I've attended where the singer has said to go download their new album, and specifically said they didn't give a fuck whether or not you pay for it.
If you want to support a musician you enjoy, see him/her live. That's where they make their money, and that's how I support the artists; by seeing as many shows as I possibly can.
Worried that a band doesn't have to sale out to become famous? Worried that hard work actually pays off? Or worried that a band you liked might actually be getting a little reconization?
No, worried because she only listens to slow and boring Christian music.
Post by arcadius989 on Apr 27, 2012 0:52:06 GMT -5
Just a different take... I'm a state employee, I work in a prison. I'd be pissed if my administration ripped me off for a single minute that I spend at work. This is how these people make a living. I'm all about an artist wanting to be heard, and not caring whether you download their stuff for free or pay for it. But seriously, this is a question of morality. I hate record bigwigs. Hands down. But the plain and simple fact is that music is how these artists make their money; how they make their living. Whether you see them live, buy their album, get their T-shirt, whatever... They are going to make something off of it. As much as I depend on music to simply get me by day in and day out, I'm more than willing to contribute as much as I can to these artists' careers. It sucks that money goes into the label's pocket, I know, but think about the big picture. AND, especially with a band like The Black Keys, who have worked their fingers to the bone for years to get where they are, your'e d*a*m*n right I'm going to pay for their effing album. Do the right thing people, stop stealing music. If we steal music, the industry is dead. (Steps down off soapbox)
In other news, El Camino is absolutely delightful. Good classic rock feel to it, and I dig that.