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Name me one band that has headlined Bonnaroo that would be unable to sell 5000 tickets in Atlanta. The name of the game is to get people there, and the majority of us come from the south where AF is not that big a deal.
If you look back a few posts before this you will see that I said I don't think Arcade Fire would be an unopposed headliner, which is why I think however many tickets they sold in Atl the last time around isn't entirely relevant. This whole debate came in uproar when a speculated lineup had them in a What/Which scenario with SCI. Without any hesitation I see Arcade Fire as just as big a draw this year as Beastie Boys were in 09, therefore I think an opposed "headlining" spot before a big What stage late night is very feasible.
This argument has been ongoing in this thread for 2 or three months now. I did see your post and I agreed with it. Though I do not think we will get SCI. However I do think they have enough appeal to pull a crowd during another show at the What. Especially if it is a different genre Furthur or Panic come to mind. Honestly if it was Panic I would probably check some AF out.
Name me one band that has headlined Bonnaroo that would be unable to sell 5000 tickets in Atlanta. The name of the game is to get people there, and the majority of us come from the south where AF is not that big a deal.
If you look back a few posts before this you will see that I said I don't think Arcade Fire would be an unopposed headliner, which is why I think however many tickets they sold in Atl the last time around isn't entirely relevant. This whole debate came in uproar when a speculated lineup had them in a What/Which scenario with SCI. Without any hesitation I see Arcade Fire as just as big a draw this year as Beastie Boys were in 09, therefore I think an opposed "headlining" spot before a big What stage late night is very feasible.
not really sure of the context of this arguement and I damn sure ain't goin back and readin it - I will say this - Arcade Fire had a big year - probably the biggest year of any band - This is the tenth anniversary of Bonnaroo or the tenth roo - whatever - It's effing destiny man - their album release put them just outside the bubble for Roo last year - this is their year to kill ZE ROO!! I think - and my opinion is a humble one - that there will be a lot of dissappointed Rooers if AF don't show up to close Fri or Sat - I will be counted amongst them.
Furthur is playing arenas on their tour, they are just playing the Fox cuz its the Fox. The presale sold out in literally a minute and the tickets on ticketmaster were gone when I checked 30 minutes after they went on sale. They just want to play a small show. I mean Kanye played a show to about 200 people in a small club a few months back and he's headlining Coachella. You can't pick out random small shows, you should look at how many tickets they are selling in a whole tour if you're looking into stuff like that.
Post by theshining on Jan 23, 2011 18:47:24 GMT -5
^^ There would definitely be many a pissed fan and Roo veteran if AF were not there. I fear they will not be there though as they are at so many other fests so far. Luckily, I have seen them enough to not be bothered too much, it would just be nice to see them on the Farm
I will say this - Arcade Fire had a big year - probably the biggest year of any band - This is the tenth anniversary of Bonnaroo or the tenth roo - whatever - It's effing destiny man -
Yeah Arcade fire had a bigger year than Pink Floyd on The Wall tour, I get that people like them, but outrageous statements like this are just silly. What makes you think they had the biggest year of any band ever?
I will say this - Arcade Fire had a big year - probably the biggest year of any band - This is the tenth anniversary of Bonnaroo or the tenth roo - whatever - It's effing destiny man -
Yeah Arcade fire had a bigger year than Pink Floyd on The Wall tour, I get that people like them, but outrageous statements like this are just silly. What makes you think they had the biggest year of any band ever?
not ever - good god man!!! That IS an outrageous - my meaning was that this past year AF had a bigger year than any other band - and I think most people will agree with me on that.
Since when did the Wall come out in 201?. I think he means Album/Tour combined. I'm sure there were plenty of tours that did better than AF besides The Wall, including Lady Gaga.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
Yeah Arcade fire had a bigger year than Pink Floyd on The Wall tour, I get that people like them, but outrageous statements like this are just silly. What makes you think they had the biggest year of any band ever?
not ever - good god man!!! That IS an outrageous - my meaning was that this past year AF had a bigger year than any other band - and I think most people will agree with me on that.
Ok then let me know why you think that in 2010 Arcade Fire had the biggest year of any band that was touring or making music.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
not ever - good god man!!! That IS an outrageous - my meaning was that this past year AF had a bigger year than any other band - and I think most people will agree with me on that.
Ok then let me know why you think that in 2010 Arcade Fire had the biggest year of any band that was touring or making music.
^Ok, I mean they are not even played on mainstream radio as far as I know. Hell Taylor Swift and Ke$ha arguably had bigger blow up years than them. Kanye had a pretty good year as well it sounds like, I heard his new album reviewed on NPR. Cee-Lo is doing well and I love his new album. etc.....
If Coach sells out within the next two weeks with Arcade Fire as a headliner would that change your mind at all?
If you are referring to them playing an unopposed headlining set no it would not. They do not have the mainstream appeal to get 70k plus into the field for the What Stage. I think a split What Which or LN Which.
^Ok, I mean they are not even played on mainstream radio as far as I know. Hell Taylor Swift and Ke$ha arguably had bigger blow up years than them. Kanye had a pretty good year as well it sounds like, I heard his new album reviewed on NPR. Cee-Lo is doing well and I love his new album. etc.....
granted - aside from the scarcastic wiki link - The Suburbs is on the top of everyones best of list - they have had some amazing collabs this year - including but not limited to Terry Gilliam!!!! That you are using Taylor Swift and Kanye in the same breath as AF is a little disconcerting - they have huge record labels behind them driving thier success and AF has humble but stallworth Merge. They made the best record this year (commence disagreement) and Roo X is the biggest festival of 2011 and the two should meet and make sweet love and give us all an amazing little ethereal white haired rosy cheeked late night friday set child. BOING
Post by nodepression on Jan 23, 2011 19:27:16 GMT -5
I guess it's different at both fests, but AF are a big band for a lot of 16-30 year olds who are the main demographic of the fest. They would be a band everybody talked about all weekend, and could easily draw 60,000 at a fest with a bunch of people who are all passionate about music.
Either way, they're going to announce a southern tour soon enough, so we'll see what type of venues they play during the early spring and where you think they'll be able to play.
Arcade Fire of 2 years ago is not the same band. They have blown up. The south always lags behind everything in the north because well......its the south.
If Coach sells out within the next two weeks with Arcade Fire as a headliner would that change your mind at all?
If you are referring to them playing an unopposed headlining set no it would not. They do not have the mainstream appeal to get 70k plus into the field for the What Stage. I think a split What Which or LN Which.
I saw them at Coach 07 - and there was easily 50k plus there - and thats being conservative.
^Ok, I mean they are not even played on mainstream radio as far as I know. Hell Taylor Swift and Ke$ha arguably had bigger blow up years than them. Kanye had a pretty good year as well it sounds like, I heard his new album reviewed on NPR. Cee-Lo is doing well and I love his new album. etc.....
granted - aside from the scarcastic wiki link - The Suburbs is on the top of everyones best of list - they have had some amazing collabs this year - including but not limited to Terry Gilliam!!!! That you are using Taylor Swift and Kanye in the same breath as AF is a little disconcerting - they have huge record labels behind them driving thier success and AF has humble but stallworth Merge. They made the best record this year (commence disagreement) and Roo X is the biggest festival of 2011 and the two should meet and make sweet love and give us all an amazing little ethereal white haired rosy cheeked late night friday set child. BOING
So this is the opposite of the U2 argument, you like them lots of people do, but do you really feel they can pull 70k people inside to see them? I would be absurdly happy if Garage a trois headlined, but they won't.
If Coach sells out within the next two weeks with Arcade Fire as a headliner would that change your mind at all?
If you are referring to them playing an unopposed headlining set no it would not. They do not have the mainstream appeal to get 70k plus into the field for the What Stage. I think a split What Which or LN Which.
I saw them at Coach 07 and there was, conservatively, 50k plus there. It was a beautiful set. Sunset in the desert, Arcade Fire ripping a hole in the stratosphere!! A cherished memory indeed.
I guess it's different at both fests, but AF are a big band for a lot of 16-30 year olds who are the main demographic of the fest. They would be a band everybody talked about all weekend, and could easily draw 60,000 at a fest with a bunch of people who are all passionate about music.
Either way, they're going to announce a southern tour soon enough, so we'll see what type of venues they play during the early spring and where you think they'll be able to play.
I am actually curious to see that as well. If they are selling out big theaters/amphitheaters I will certainly change my position. But even KOL who was the weakest headliner we have ever had is arguably a "bigger" band that Arcade Fire.