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How many tickets do you think a band needs to be able to sell in the south in order for them to be headliner worthy?
it is actually quite simple: they have to be able to book Arena size venues consistently. Look at all the headliners. At the time that they played the festival they were Capable of playing large Arenas capacity 15,000 or more.
How many tickets do you think a band needs to be able to sell in the south in order for them to be headliner worthy?
it is actually quite simple: they have to be able to book Arena size venues consistently. Look at all the headliners. At the time that they played the festival they were Capable of playing large Arenas capacity 15,000 or more.
For the record my prediction for headliners in 2011 is U2, Furthur, and Widespread Panic.
Reasoning: U2: Week long gap in their tourdates during Roo is an obvious indicator. We've seen this happen before with Phish. Furthur: Elder statesmen of the scene, and a dead-related act has nit headlined Bonnaroo since 2006. Bobby and Phil played together at the first Roo. Widespread Panic: has Headlined 7 of the 27 headlining slots (26% of tge time). Headlined 1st year for 2 nights. Is going on indefinite hiatus post-2011. Is tied to Bonnaroo and their success on a level that no other band can claim. An obvious get.
Though that is my prediction, I am not 100% confident that all 3 will headline. I do expect all 3 to be there, but could see Panic or Furthur grabbing a late night instead of a headliner.
I can see all three there and one band as a latenight.
How about this: Friday- U2>Widespread Panic Saturday - CSNY>Prince LN Sunday - MMJ>Furthur
Emoney serves more of a purpose than any of you, especially Nate, whose incessant, garbled ramblings are so mindless and pointless that I get depressed just seeing them.
I haven't seen many Roo headliners in Atlanta, but there weren't tumbleweeds rolling through the venue Jess. I mean they probably wouldn't headline, I would rather they not in all honesty. But we're not talking about Animal Collective or Death Cab or something.
It really comes down to how satisfied Roo is with the rest of the lineup and what THEY consider to be an act that can play one of the prime 3-5 spots on the lineup.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
I can't answer your question. I don't know enough about how well bands sell in Atlanta.
Actually it is the South in general and the answer is none. AF played one Ryman show that sold out about a week before the show. Panic played three consecutive nights and sold out in an hour. Phish sold out VZW Alpharetta for two nights and tickets were 200 in the lot because the venue was so small. AF only did the seats no lawn one night and still did not sell it out. They do not have enough draw in the south to be an unopposed headliner. It is sounding doubtful they will be there, but if they were they are a lot more likely for a LN Which appearance. Do you think they are bigger than NIN, Flips, MMJ etc...?
Arcade Fire is also headlining Jazz Fest, so if they played bonnaroo this year, they very well could play a headline slot.
No unopposed headliners there, always at least two medium sized shows going on it makes a difference. Also they technically have like 12 headliners it waters the honor down a bit.
Yeah, I know, I was just throwing that out there. Also consider that Jazz Fest Lasts for 2 weekends.
I can't answer your question. I don't know enough about how well bands sell in Atlanta.
The best answer I can give is Further. They are playing the Fox in April and I think they could headline.
Furthur is a much much bigger draw for Roo than Arcade Fire. Bobby and Phil have also previously headlined Bonnaroo on more than one occassion. The same cannot be said for Arcade Fire.
It is very unlike Bonnaroo to put a 1st timer as a headliner at Bonnaroo without having a proven track record of consistent ticket sales. It has actually never happenned.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
Furthur is a much much bigger draw for Roo than Arcade Fire. Bobby and Phil have also previously headlined Bonnaroo on more than one occassion. The same cannot be said for Bonnaroo.
It is very unlike Bonnaroo to put a 1st timer at Bonnaroo without having a proven track record of consistent ticket sales. It has actually never happenned.
This is the first message board I've ever been on, the only reason I joined is because I love Bonnaroo and wanted to read and talk about it all year long.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
NIN aren't even active. That's where that argument comes in homeslice.
Ok then, in 2009 when NIN played the LN Which they were selling out big arenas and amphitheaters though they were appearing with Janes Addiction as well. They sold out Deer Creek which hold 24,000 people. Arcade Fire, and MMJ together could probably not do that in 2011.
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I can't answer your question. I don't know enough about how well bands sell in Atlanta.
The best answer I can give is Further. They are playing the Fox in April and I think they could headline.
Furthur is a much much bigger draw for Roo than Arcade Fire. Bobby and Phil have also previously headlined Bonnaroo on more than one occassion. The same cannot be said for Arcade Fire.
It is very unlike Bonnaroo to put a 1st timer as a headliner at Bonnaroo without having a proven track record of consistent ticket sales. It has actually never happenned.
You do realize my post had nothing to do with AF. Jess asked me for a band that would sell less than 5000 tickets in Atlanta that I think could headline.
The show NIN played with QOTSA and DFA1979 at the Phillips arena didn't come close to selling out... my friend and I were 2 of maybe 7 people in the upper area of seats. And this was 05 and one of their first big shows back in the South East since the Fragility tour.
But, I'd like to think NIN is bigger than them, I just don't know.
Furthur is a much much bigger draw for Roo than Arcade Fire. Bobby and Phil have also previously headlined Bonnaroo on more than one occassion. The same cannot be said for Arcade Fire.
It is very unlike Bonnaroo to put a 1st timer as a headliner at Bonnaroo without having a proven track record of consistent ticket sales. It has actually never happenned.
You do realize my post had nothing to do with AF. Jess asked me for a band that would sell less than 5000 tickets in Atlanta that I think could headline.
The Fox holds 5000 and sold out pretty quickly, like in an hour.
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^They sold 5000 tickets in a hour, if they could not sell out the fox you might have a point. Also it is the hardest to get ticket on the tour apprently, right now the 50$ tickets are 100-200 on craigslist and they went on sale less than a week ago.
The question was one who could not, not one who could.
Phish Bruce DMB Panic KOL Tom Petty Radiohead etc..
All can easily sell more than 5000 tickets to a southern show.
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Widespread Panic played a three night run in Knoxville last summer at a theatre that holds around 2,000. The shows didn't sell out until the day of each show.
Widespread Panic played a three night run in Knoxville last summer at a theatre that holds around 2,000. The shows didn't sell out until the day of each show.
Knoxville is a college town and school is not in session in July. They typically play Arenas all over the south. That said, their sales are way down these days.
Widespread Panic played a three night run in Knoxville last summer at a theatre that holds around 2,000. The shows didn't sell out until the day of each show.
The sold out the Civic Auditorium like 6 months before that though, and they did sell out.
You are so quacking annoying.
If you do not think there is a difference between selling out a show in an hour and having the tickets be hard to get at a historic theater, and not being able to sell all those tickets with two months I do not know what else to say. Also fwiw I see Furthur as a LN What act or the Jam Headliner which typically draws a smaller crowd since so many go home.
Name me one band that has headlined Bonnaroo that would be unable to sell 5000 tickets in Atlanta. The name of the game is to get people there, and the majority of us come from the south where AF is not that big a deal.
If you look back a few posts before this you will see that I said I don't think Arcade Fire would be an unopposed headliner, which is why I think however many tickets they sold in Atl the last time around isn't entirely relevant. This whole debate came in uproar when a speculated lineup had them in a What/Which scenario with SCI. Without any hesitation I see Arcade Fire as just as big a draw this year as Beastie Boys were in 09, therefore I think an opposed "headlining" spot before a big What stage late night is very feasible.