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I embraced the draft a few years back and it's become a tradition. I make chili and have chili nachos and watch all seven rounds -- well, except for when I inevitably fall asleep in round five or six.
There's been so much trade activity this off-season I think that today's might just be eventful. I'm not sure that I'm on board with this late starting draft, though.
Oh man I'm pumped. Everyone's expecting the Eagles to trade today for Boldin, I hope they do it.
What a time to be a Philly sports fan? Last night, the Phillies won in the 9th inning and the Sixers beat Orlando in the last 3 seconds of the game. Now the Flyers are on at 3, and today's draft could be one of the most exciting drafts in years!
I doubt that there will end up being a Boldin trade at this point. I know that they're lowering their asking price but you still have to factor in his contract demands and they just backed up a dump truck for Peters.
BTW, I wish you luck with Peters but most Bills fans were happy to see him go. He was a distraction off the field and a turnstyle on it last year. Plus, he's got some attitude issues. That said, he has the potential to be a solid contributor to your team.
I doubt that there will end up being a Bolding trade at this point. I know that they're lowering their asking price but you still have to factor in his contract demands and they just backed up a dump truck for Peters.
BTW, I wish you luck with Peters but most Bills fans were happy to see him go. He was a distraction off the field and a turnstyle on it last year. Plus, he's got some attitude issues. That said, he has the potential to be a solid contributor to your team.
I've been following it closely, it's still a real possibility. Even though we signed Peters to that huge contract, we still have a TON of cap room. It's completely feasible on our end, it's all up to the Cardinals though.
With that said, I'd still be happy if we just used our picks. Eagles always draft well
Post by noeysasquatch on Apr 25, 2009 12:43:11 GMT -5
I really hope the Eagles draft Moreno out of Georgia and I hope they can trade for Boldin too, I just don't know if they can get both. There's another good RB out of Liberty I'd be happy for them to get if they don't get Moreno.
Now that Peters has a new contract and is gonna play with other solid lineman I think he'll be at the top of his game again.
The Bills had a puzzling draft for me. Granted, I don't watch a lot of college ball but I have read a lot of mock drafts and know what their need areas are and these picks are head scratchers. All of their picks seem to be solid players but I expected an OT and a TE in their first three picks. Instead we went DE (Maybin), C (Wood), CB (Byrd) and G (Levitre). We'll see...
Yeah, I guess that I don't see why you draft a rookie in the first round but aren't willing to trade a second rounder for a seasoned vetran who can start on Day 1. I guess that Boldin will cost you a significant chunk more but if the Eagles have the money available it sounds like a dumb move to me.
Post by noeysasquatch on Apr 25, 2009 22:07:13 GMT -5
The Eagles were interested in Boldin but The Cards didn't get a trade they were interested in. I don't know how anyone thinks getting Maclin at the 19th pick is dumb, they were able to get a great value with that pick in Maclin. He was the best player available at that point and fits the Eagles WR need. It'd been nice to get Moreno, but McCoy is like a Westbrook clone with great speed to rush outside and catch the ball out of the backfield
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The Bills had a puzzling draft for me. Granted, I don't watch a lot of college ball but I have read a lot of mock drafts and know what their need areas are and these picks are head scratchers. All of their picks seem to be solid players but I expected an OT and a TE in their first three picks. Instead we went DE (Maybin), C (Wood), CB (Byrd) and G (Levitre). We'll see...
just FYI, you got the best pure center and the best pure guard in the draft. I wouldn't be all that upset with the picks......
Post by candyflippedaround on Apr 26, 2009 1:59:25 GMT -5
woo the draft... i used to be so into the draft until i realized bellicheck drafted guys like logan mankins and ty warren. guys that are great NFL players but no one talks about pre-draft, doh. and all the guys i liked pre-draft years and years ago are busts nowadays. oh well... i watched the first 5 picks today before i was off to work
The draft wasn't very exciting for a Saints fan, but Malcolm Jenkins was my #1 hope for the 14th pick. I'm not happy that we've drafted a kicker each of the last two years. You can usually find them as free agents.
The Eagles were interested in Boldin but The Cards didn't get a trade they were interested in. I don't know how anyone thinks getting Maclin at the 19th pick is dumb, they were able to get a great value with that pick in Maclin. He was the best player available at that point and fits the Eagles WR need. It'd been nice to get Moreno, but McCoy is like a Westbrook clone with great speed to rush outside and catch the ball out of the backfield
Yeah...the thing is nobody is scared of the Eagles physically on offense. The Eagles don't need another Westbrook. They need a guy who can punch the ball in from the 5. And Maclin is basically the same player as DeSean Jackson. He's a soft as hell, undersized speedster, who can break big plays and return balls, but he's not going to go over the middle and make the tough catches.
Sometimes I don't get Andy Reid. He's like the Mike D'Antoni of NFL football. He coaches a system that's good enough to almost win, and they're always a player or two away from doing it, but he's so infatuated with finesse on offense that he's forgotten power wins you titles.
Post by wonderllama on Apr 26, 2009 17:06:24 GMT -5
Ya know, I really want to be a Raiders fan. I was back in the day when I was a kid. They even drafted my boy Darren McFadden last year. But Al Davis just makes all that impossible. Terrible draft, gonna be another terrible year.
The Eagles were interested in Boldin but The Cards didn't get a trade they were interested in. I don't know how anyone thinks getting Maclin at the 19th pick is dumb, they were able to get a great value with that pick in Maclin. He was the best player available at that point and fits the Eagles WR need. It'd been nice to get Moreno, but McCoy is like a Westbrook clone with great speed to rush outside and catch the ball out of the backfield
Yeah...the thing is nobody is scared of the Eagles physically on offense. The Eagles don't need another Westbrook. They need a guy who can punch the ball in from the 5. And Maclin is basically the same player as DeSean Jackson. He's a soft as hell, undersized speedster, who can break big plays and return balls, but he's not going to go over the middle and make the tough catches.
Sometimes I don't get Andy Reid. He's like the Mike D'Antoni of NFL football. He coaches a system that's good enough to almost win, and they're always a player or two away from doing it, but he's so infatuated with finesse on offense that he's forgotten power wins you titles.
Is any of that supposed to be serious? They need someone to punch it in from the 5? Leonard Weaver, enough said. This is probably the most balanced running attack in years and McCoy will provide a good spell for westbrook. Maclin was rated as one of the top 20 college prospects and he is bigger than Jackson. He's 6ft 200lbs, thats not undersized and he is a threat to score from anywhere.
And you have the wrong idea about Reid. How is he focused on finesse and not power when he usually drafts big tackles in the first round? ??? He lives by the idea that you win the game in the trenches.
And noone is scared of them physically? Last year the Eagles set a franchise record for points scored and the offense is only getting better now. There offense line is huge and powerful, plus they have a great blocker in Weaver and big wideouts in Avant and Baskett.
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Noey, just because someone disagrees with what you think it doesn't mean that you should be a jerk to them. It's great that you are passionate about your team but there are very few absolutes here -- it's all a matter of opinion.
I'm an Eagles fan and I'm somewhere in between noeys and dudezer's opinions. On the one hand, I'm glad to see them draft a solid WR, but we need a veteran, right now. Donovan doesn't have that many years left, and he said he wants the Eagles to show him that they're serious about winning, RIGHT NOW. I still don't see that. I see them filling holes and bulking up for the future. Which is fine, in most cases. But the big question is, how many years till Kolb gets the reigns? It looks to me like it's gonna be sooner rather than later.
The Bills had a puzzling draft for me. Granted, I don't watch a lot of college ball but I have read a lot of mock drafts and know what their need areas are and these picks are head scratchers. All of their picks seem to be solid players but I expected an OT and a TE in their first three picks. Instead we went DE (Maybin), C (Wood), CB (Byrd) and G (Levitre). We'll see...
just FYI, you got the best pure center and the best pure guard in the draft. I wouldn't be all that upset with the picks......
Yeah, the line picks are never sexy but they were needed. Not thrilled with the Bills wanting to switch the positions of half of their draft picks (including Wood) but it looks like they got four day-one starters. It's tough to sneeze at that!
As a Redskins fan may I just say thank god the Jets took Sanchez, Danny needs his bottle taken away every once and awhile. Orakpo lined up next to Haynesworth will hopefully make for one hell of a right side.
Yeah...the thing is nobody is scared of the Eagles physically on offense. The Eagles don't need another Westbrook. They need a guy who can punch the ball in from the 5. And Maclin is basically the same player as DeSean Jackson. He's a soft as hell, undersized speedster, who can break big plays and return balls, but he's not going to go over the middle and make the tough catches.
Sometimes I don't get Andy Reid. He's like the Mike D'Antoni of NFL football. He coaches a system that's good enough to almost win, and they're always a player or two away from doing it, but he's so infatuated with finesse on offense that he's forgotten power wins you titles.
Is any of that supposed to be serious? They need someone to punch it in from the 5? Leonard Weaver, enough said. This is probably the most balanced running attack in years and McCoy will provide a good spell for westbrook. Maclin was rated as one of the top 20 college prospects and he is bigger than Jackson. He's 6ft 200lbs, thats not undersized and he is a threat to score from anywhere.
And you have the wrong idea about Reid. How is he focused on finesse and not power when he usually drafts big tackles in the first round? ??? He lives by the idea that you win the game in the trenches.
And noone is scared of them physically? Last year the Eagles set a franchise record for points scored and the offense is only getting better now. There offense line is huge and powerful, plus they have a great blocker in Weaver and big wideouts in Avant and Baskett.
First off, I watched Maclin all season long, so I know what I'm talking about. The dude is exactly like DeSean Jackson, maybe slightly bigger. He provides ZERO contrast, and he doesn't like contact. And McCoy is a lot like Westbrook.
When I say Philly isn't physical, I mean just that. Nobody is scared of Philly inside the 20 because their red zone offense is HORRIBLE. They lack an elite tight end, a big receiver who can catch fades and a running back who can punch it in inside the 5.
Philly ranked 22nd in the regular season for scoring inside the red zone, getting into the end zone less than 50% of the time and only 3 teams even got into the red zone more than Philly.
This has been a trending problem for the Eagles. In 2004, they were 3rd in the league. In 2005, they were 12th in the league in red zone offense. In 2007, they were 10th. In 2007, they were 24th.
Philly needs a great tight end, a great power back and a possession receiver who is either big enough to catch fades or tough enough to go over the middle. Maclin and McCoy fit neither of those categories. Moreno and Boldin do.
This is why, as a Cowboys fan, I'm happy they ended up with who they did and not who they could have. And incidently, if they wanted a player like Maclin or McCoy, they could have just used one pick on Harvin, gotten both guys in one player, and then used the late pick to trade for Boldin.
Post by awolfatthedoor on Apr 27, 2009 0:57:42 GMT -5
Maclin is a very good WR, but not right for Philly. After watching him in college I would say he's probably just a slightly better version of Jackson, if thats what the Eagles were hoping for then I guess good job. I would have tried to trade down and get Beanie Wells or trade up and get Moreno, but thats why Im not a GM. Anyway as a Rams fan, I would say ok draft but seeing no early round WR is a huge disappointment. I guess I can look forward to another top 5 draft pick and hopefully a Bulger release. Anyone have any thoughts on the stack of poop that is the Rams?
Post by noeysasquatch on Apr 27, 2009 11:18:49 GMT -5
How did i get branded as a jerk here? I disagreed with what dudezer said, but i didnt resort to namecalling. And Dudezer I get what you're saying about how bad they were in the red zone last year, it was tough to watch. But that's why Weaver was signed so that he could help them 1) punch it in or 2) provide better blocking for Westbrook than Klecko did. And we couldn't get Moreno since he was taken earlier so I'm fine with McCoy who has skills similar to BWest.
And the Cardinals didn't trade Boldin to anyone so that point is moot. Trading for a player like Boldin is tough. Maclin was the best player on the board when the Iggles picked so I have no problem with him being taken. He was much more productive in college than Harvin. And remember, McNabb wanted weapons so they got him a wideout and a back that can catch the ball well.
As for the Rams, awolfatthedoor, I know these last couple years have been tough but they got a great OT which will really allow Bulger to play better. Bulger got sacked a lot last year, but when he has time to throw he can be a good QB. But still Holt leaving has left a big hole at WR so i understand the frustration there.
6/18: Phish in Hartford 6/25: Phish in Camden 7/2-7/4: Nateva 7/17: God Street Wine at Irving Plaza 7/23-7/25: String Cheese at Red Rocks!! 8/17-8/18: Phish at Jones Beach 9/3: Rush at PNC
This Bonnaroo lineup is in dire need of some Rush.
The Eagles drafted extremely well, I can't wait for this season.
Maclin will make this WR core the fastest in the league, good luck covering us, even in the red zone. McCoy will be a great spell to Westbrook. For some strange reason, we now have about 7 guys who can return kicks and punts.
As for Andy Reid, I've learned not to question what he and Heckert do. They are all-knowing, and I trust all their decisions. I'm a little sick of people saying Reid won't ever win anything. No one has patience anymore
Do you know who Bill Cowher is? Well if you don't, he's a future Hall of Fame coach that won a Super Bowl with Pittsburgh. He coached for 15 seasons before winning a Super Bowl.
"In Cowher’s 15 seasons, the Steelers captured eight division titles, earned ten postseason playoff berths, played in 21 playoff games, advanced to six AFC Championship games and made two Super Bowl appearances. "
Andy is coming on his 11th season I believe. He's been to 5 NFC Championship games, and made 1 SB appearance. So give him some freakin' time. It's not like you can just go out and win a world title, it takes some time.
6/18: Phish in Hartford 6/25: Phish in Camden 7/2-7/4: Nateva 7/17: God Street Wine at Irving Plaza 7/23-7/25: String Cheese at Red Rocks!! 8/17-8/18: Phish at Jones Beach 9/3: Rush at PNC
This Bonnaroo lineup is in dire need of some Rush.
