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"Sea kittens" is the new term being used by People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, for the creatures they believe are in dire need of an image makeover: fish.
"PETA thought that by renaming fish sea kittens, compassionate people who would never dream of hurting a dog or a cat might extend that sympathy to fish, or sea kittens," PETA campaign coordinator Ashley Byrne says.
Byrne says that rebranding fish as sea kittens was obvious.
"Fish not only have the same ability to feel pain as a dog or a cat, but they also communicate with one another," she says. "They have complex social interactions; they form bonds; they express affection by gently rubbing against one another."
The PETA campaign boasts a colorful, interactive Web site aimed at children and their parents. It offers sea kitten bedtime stories and a design-your-own sea kitten in hopes it will build compassion in families.
"Most parents would never dream of spending a weekend torturing kittens for fun with their families, but hooking a sea kitten through the mouth and dragging her through the water is the same as hooking a kitten through the mouth and dragging her behind your car," Byrne says.
I don't think there's anything wrong about building compassion for the ethical treatment of animals...I'm often amazed at how little people care about the details surrounding the origins of their food...but "sea kittens" is a bit much.
I didn't know about this until last night in school someone brought it up. If you go to www.peta.org/sea_kittens/ you can make your own sea kitten. It's kinda fun lol
haha, lemme guess sharks should be called "sea puppies"?
'oh man, that sea puppy just ripped that guys leg right off'
Random fact Shark young are called pups, who knows why. I am with Sassbox here I have no problem with treating animals ethically I am an animal lover and even foster puppies. That being said I have pets, eat meat, drink milk, and kind of think the Peta folks wouldnt have me because of those things. Also I find their child outreach program reprehensible. Cute little comic books called your Daddy kills animals showing a father disembowling a rabbit on the cover. They dont talk about it a lot but one of their goals is to end pet ownership, period no dogs cats or anything. Seakittens just reminds me of the Monty Python pet shop sketch where the guy offers to turn a cat into a fish for the customer.
Post by Fishing Maniac on Feb 10, 2009 14:51:20 GMT -5
There were threads about his crap on my fishing board weeks ago. Then there was a video about shark fishing with cats. I think it was fake, but I didn't see it. For the record, fish do not "have the same ability to feel pain as a dog or a cat". They have a considerably less advanced nervous system and do not process any physical sensations be them pleasant or painful the same way as animals that have a cerebral cortex. Basically they have not physical memory. They only feel things for the instant they occur. Trust me on this. Aside from being VERY well read on the subject, I've watch so many fish go directly at the bait and hook themselves immediately after being released. I've also caught several fish with hooks still in their mouths that were broken off of someone else's line. Not to mention that bluefish won't let me have the lure back. They get possessive.
Here's a nother stunning admission of ignorance.
"Most parents would never dream of spending a weekend torturing kittens for fun with their families, but hooking a sea kitten through the mouth and dragging her through the water is the same as hooking a kitten through the mouth and dragging her behind your car," Byrne says.
Fish have very few if any nerves in their mouths. Their bodies have been designed to ingest all sorts of other creatures including shellfish and crustaceans. Did you ever chew on a piece of egg shell in your scrambled eggs? Pretty unpleasant. Now imagine eating a large 1/4" thick 3" broken shard of a razor clam shell with a piece of clam meat on it in one bite. For that matter how about trying to swallow a living blue claw crab or lobster. Even a wee fiddler crab with one rounded claw would give any mammal a run for their money.
I'm not saying that fish enjoy being caught. I know that I torment fish for fun. I accept that. (I do my best to keep them from dying or being permanently injured.) What I am saying is - Know what the quack you're talking about before you open your mouth.
Or
Don't use misinformation to manipulate peoples' opinions.
I'm with maniac on this. I've been fishing my entire life, and the whole article to me was retarded. Besides, PETA euthanizes thousands of LAND kittens and dogs every year. Hypocrites
Euthanizing unwanted animals is not hypocritical -- it's sad, but it's more humane than the unnecessary suffering of those animals at the hands of man.
This is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Rebranding an animal. Seriously? These are the same people type of people that think that the Cookie Monster should be renamed the Carrot Monster.
Until a fish can wake me up by putting a paw on my face or hide under a bed and attack me as I walk by in the morning I refuse to consider them a close relative to a kitten.
Euthanizing unwanted animals is not hypocritical -- it's sad, but it's more humane than the unnecessary suffering of those animals at the hands of man.
I agree with you, but PETA doesn't believe in pets being, well, pets. So if this is true, you have to believe PETA doesn't make much effort in making them wanted at all, because that would simply be against their ethics. Ethical treatment for Animals sure, but how is it ethical to decide an animals death if you believe they should be treated equally? Sounds hypocritical to me, PETA thinks animals should be equals among us, yet they are allowed to make the decision if the animal should live or die? I'm sorry, but PETA is a bunch of idiots with too much time on their hands to even reflect upon their own actions. Take Consumer Freedoms recent report of PETA as an example. This is quote from a letter sent to PETA's neighbors after they moved into their new, 2.7 million dollar office building in D.C.
"If you or anyone in your office has a pet dog or cat on the premises, please make sure it is kept indoors and far away from the new PETA offices. Since PETA does not believe in pet ownership, the group operates an aggressive program of killing domesticated animals instead of searching for adoptive homes. Do not, under any circumstances, take a pet to PETA for veterinary care or advice. Government records show that in 2007 alone, the group killed 1,815 pets while finding homes for only 18."
That means less than 1% of the animals they take in find a home. So are you telling me, that an organization that spent $2.7 million on a new office, that can't find a home for more than 1% of the pets they take in, and believe that animals should be treated equally while ordering those same animals executions, are not hypocritical? No? Then please tell me what is, because obviously I am not educated enough to understand what being a hypocrite entails. PETA is on the same level as Al Qaeda IMO, extremist idiots that have no ambition in life besides getting in the way of others. It's groups like this that hinder the development of the human race
I'm not trying to argue either, I just think a lot of people look at PETA and say "well I love animals too, so I guess they're ok" just like I used to. That's entirely not true, they are a blight on our society, nothing more, and people should know that
Post by Fishing Maniac on Feb 10, 2009 16:55:07 GMT -5
Now despite everything that I have said about trying to keep the fish that I catch from being harmed, the same cannot be said for the fish thatI use as bait. Eels for example get hooked through the lower jaw and then out through the eye to prevent them from wiggling off the hook. Killies get hooked through the lip or the back depending on what I'm trying to catch and I've even been known to catch baby bluefish, cut off there pectoral fins so that they can't swim correctly and drift them in hopes of hooking monster fluke. That's only live bait. Some other bait kittens such as bunker just get cut into pieces.
Instead of dirt and poison, we have rather chosen to fill our hives with honey and wax; thus furnishing mankind with the two noblest of things, which are sweetness and light.
Now despite everything that I have said about trying to keep the fish that I catch from being harmed, the same cannot be said for the fish thatI use as bait. Eels for example get hooked through the lower jaw and then out through the eye to prevent them from wiggling off the hook. Killies get hooked through the lip or the back depending on what I'm trying to catch and I've even been known to catch baby bluefish, cut off there pectoral fins so that they can't swim correctly and drift them in hopes of hooking monster fluke. That's only live bait. Some other bait kittens such as bunker just get cut into pieces.
In the analogy though these would be more like sea mice though right? Not that I would encourage anyone to hook a mouse attach it your car and drive, but I am just saying these cant be kittens as well.
Post by cheeky resurrection on Feb 10, 2009 18:24:19 GMT -5
I'm a long time vegetarian and I get associated with PETA all the time. I am 100% anti-PETA. They have the right idea in mind but go about everything in the complete wrong way. It's honestly disgusting. It's more pop culture than I can handle.
When I clicked on this thread I thought it would be about Sea Monkeys! I totally had some a few years ago but alas, they all died. If those things (what are they exactly?) are "sea monkeys", I have a hard time equating fish with kittens.
Instead of dirt and poison, we have rather chosen to fill our hives with honey and wax; thus furnishing mankind with the two noblest of things, which are sweetness and light.
When I clicked on this thread I thought it would be about Sea Monkeys! I totally had some a few years ago but alas, they all died. If those things (what are they exactly?) are "sea monkeys", I have a hard time equating fish with kittens.
Post by rideincircles on Feb 10, 2009 21:38:17 GMT -5
I keep my boat under a carport, but I have to lower the front end all the way to get it to fit. My problem right now is that I dont own a truck. My dad got the boat as a legal fee, and he owed me money, so I am now paid back. 225 hp, yamaha v6 outboard. I took it out once last year after I got it fixed. Went through 20 gallons of gas in four hours cruising.