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The Snoop argument keeps getting reformulated to fit whatever qualifications need be met. I mean, which one is it? Does peanut butter lead to Peanuts, which leads to Snoopy which = Snoop? Or does peanut butter lead to peanuts, which leads to gin? To me, all of the links are a stretch.
I'm not even buying the link to peanuts. Had djjd wanted us to settle on peanuts, the clue would have read, "Peter Pan BEFORE he had a good roast and was beat to a pulp" rather than what it actually reads, "Peter Pan had a good roast before he was beat to a pulp".
I never said the argument was perfect. It fits all the qualifications it has to. Your argument against it was that using my logic the answer would be snoop and juice. So, i kept an open mind and improved my argument using knowledge from margaritacentral. Now we have can easily point it to gin and juice. The lines work on more than one level, just like any good song would. And what exactly is peanut butter and juice? PB and J was peanut butter and jelly last time I looked.
Post by HoodooOperator on Jan 18, 2009 17:22:05 GMT -5
I'm gonna laugh my ass off if its neither, and all yous guys wasted spent an ENTIRE weekend of your life going back and forth about Snoop and PB&J. At what point do you step away from the computer for a while, and just wait for the next clue? What, maybe after the fiftieth page of pointless deliberation? You guys are awesome, your relentlessness to prove your points is impressive. Good job fighting the good fight.
The Snoop argument keeps getting reformulated to fit whatever qualifications need be met. I mean, which one is it? Does peanut butter lead to Peanuts, which leads to Snoopy which = Snoop? Or does peanut butter lead to peanuts, which leads to gin? To me, all of the links are a stretch.
I'm not even buying the link to peanuts. Had djjd wanted us to settle on peanuts, the clue would have read, "Peter Pan BEFORE he had a good roast and was beat to a pulp" rather than what it actually reads, "Peter Pan had a good roast before he was beat to a pulp".
I never said the argument was perfect. It fits all the qualifications it has to. Your argument against it was that using my logic the answer would be snoop and juice. So, i kept an open mind and improved my argument using knowledge from margaritacentral. Now we have can easily point it to gin and juice. The lines work on more than one level, just like any good song would. And what exactly is peanut butter and juice? PB and J was peanut butter and jelly last time I looked.
Peanut Butter and Juice is the same thing as "Memphis Isn't Albany" . . . a random phrase meant to be broken down into an acronym.
I guess our main point of contention is where you state, "Now we have can easily point it to gin and juice [sic]". I don't think that your connection from peanut butter to peanuts to peanut gins to gin (the liquor) is easy whatsoever. I think it is a stretch, and a big one at that. Whereas the argument for PB + J is just a few simple steps.
I'm gonna laugh my ass off if its neither, and all yous guys wasted an ENTIRE weekend of your life going back and forth about Snoop and PB&J. At what point do you step away from the computer for a while, and just wait for the next clue? What, maybe after the fiftieth page of pointless deliberation? You guys are awesome, your relentlessness to prove your points is impressive. Good job fighting the good fight.
What I find more amusing is the number of people who will come here and read every word we write.
I'm typing these out between plays in the NFC Championship game, so I really don't feel like I'm wasting my time. Solving riddles as to who will be playing Bonnaroo, engaging in long winded debates and watching football is an ideal way for me to spend the weekend.
I never said the argument was perfect. It fits all the qualifications it has to. Your argument against it was that using my logic the answer would be snoop and juice. So, i kept an open mind and improved my argument using knowledge from margaritacentral. Now we have can easily point it to gin and juice. The lines work on more than one level, just like any good song would. And what exactly is peanut butter and juice? PB and J was peanut butter and jelly last time I looked.
Peanut Butter and Juice is the same thing as "Memphis Isn't Albany" . . . a random phrase meant to be broken down into an acronym.
I guess out main point of contention is where you state, "Now we have can easily point it to gin and juice [sic]". I don't think that your connection from peanut butter to peanuts to peanut gins to gin (the liquor) is easy whatsoever. I think it is a stretch, and a big one at that. Whereas the argument for PB + J is just a few simple steps.
My vote is with Peter, Bjorn, and John. I'm going with the acronym connection.
I'm gonna laugh my ass off if its neither, and all yous guys wasted spent an ENTIRE weekend of your life going back and forth about Snoop and PB&J. At what point do you step away from the computer for a while, and just wait for the next clue? What, maybe after the fiftieth page of pointless deliberation? You guys are awesome, your relentlessness to prove your points is impressive. Good job fighting the good fight.
What I find more amusing is the number of people who will come here and read every word we write.
I'm typing these out between plays in the NFC Championship game, so I really don't feel like I'm wasting my time. Solving riddles as to who will be playing Bonnaroo, engaging in long winded debates and watching football is an ideal way for me to spend the weekend.
Post by belltwala1 on Jan 18, 2009 17:41:36 GMT -5
so much for staying on the thread.. this is WAY more fun.. i think PB and J and snoop are both good guesses..i think both would be well received by roo.
Post by plasticpepper on Jan 18, 2009 17:43:59 GMT -5
BD - since you tried to respond to some of the stuff I said a while back, I figure I should probably respond to that too.
I have no issues with the logic for the PB&J guess. I see PB&J and Chuck Berry as equally logical possibilities right now. But out of those two, I think I still prefer Chuck Berry because I've got two small issues with the PB&J guess apart from the logic. One is having Peter in the clue...doesn't rule anything about but it does make me hesitate a little bit. And the other is how easy/obvious it is. Yeah, it's possible that DJ JD underestimated us again, but we did go through an awful lot of clues last year. The first two were too easy, and after that he didn't underestimate us anymore. PB&J as the answer to this one wouldn't be quite as easy as those first two from last year, but it still seems considerably easier than the rest of last year's clues.
BD - since you tried to respond to some of the stuff I said a while back, I figure I should probably respond to that too.
I have no issues with the logic for the PB&J guess. I see PB&J and Chuck Berry as equally logical possibilities right now. But out of those two, I think I still prefer Chuck Berry because I've got two small issues with the PB&J guess apart from the logic. One is having Peter in the clue...doesn't rule anything about but it does make me hesitate a little bit. And the other is how easy/obvious it is. Yeah, it's possible that DJ JD underestimated us again, but we did go through an awful lot of clues last year. The first two were too easy, and after that he didn't underestimate us anymore. PB&J as the answer to this one wouldn't be quite as easy as those first two from last year, but it still seems considerably easier than the rest of last year's clues.
I always keep up on your posts Pepper - I take your thoughts on the clues to heart.
I share your trepidation with the ease of this clue. Maybe it does seem like too simple of an answer. That being said, this clue seems like it was better thought out than last year's clues. Many of the clues from last year seemed to be hastily thrown together (which is why we had trouble putting some of them together). This round seems more organized. A well-thought out clue may or may not be tricky to decipher, but when you have the answer it should be obvious. In this case, I think it is obvious (which is, of course, the primary reason you doubt it). When three dozen people work together on a riddle, it usually doesn't take very long to solve (unless it is obscenely difficult - which I don't think is the case. The clues have to remain solvable, so that we won't loose interest).
Post by plasticpepper on Jan 18, 2009 17:58:44 GMT -5
Well, something else I keep thinking about...in some of my googling I came across another message board where someone had posted the clue. (Specifically, it was the forums at G. Love's website). The second post after the clue was posted said this: "Awww, now that one's TOO easy! It's PB & J . . . Peter, Bjorn, and John."
Yeah, we came up with this answer pretty quickly here. We're Bonnaroo people and we did this last year, so us getting it quickly could just mean that we're awesome (clearly we are!) rather than that the answer is obvious. But someone on a non-Bonnaroo message board coming up with it that quickly? I find it a little significant.
Also, Peter Pan means something other than peanut butter. Ocean Spray is pretty much just juice, so it's not really obscured at all. So that's another part of me thinking it's a bit too easy.
Post by monkeymonkeyjoyjoy on Jan 18, 2009 18:05:07 GMT -5
I'm not sold on Snoop either, although the Metallica thing totally didn't fly with me either - I seriously was looking into it way too much...I was wondering if clouds really tasted metallic..."didn't they taste like air?" and such...which is the fun of the hunting! Im not sold on Snoop entirely, but I agree that there are some good points. We should be open to EVERYTHING though people...more positive feed and LESS to no negative! We have to be open with this stuff and consider everything possible!!!
Post by captaintrips on Jan 18, 2009 18:23:57 GMT -5
first off i didnt smite u, but i dont think there is nething wrong with saying why you dont think something is right...because then maybe someone else, who thought it was right, heres ur theory and then changes their mind and starts thinkin again
Post by monkeymonkeyjoyjoy on Jan 18, 2009 18:27:23 GMT -5
I agree that we are all allowed to voice our opinions, but lets be cool okay! That's all...it's supposed to be fun, not a race to see who is right and who is wrong...correct?
Post by Whatsnew_c on Jan 18, 2009 18:27:56 GMT -5
Pearl Jam hasn't been mentioned..... Jam goes with peanut butter and Eddie is from Seattle which is on a westward bay. He also likes to drink a lot of wine....that goes with the oceanspray part kinda. hahaha
Post by melloashello on Jan 18, 2009 18:30:11 GMT -5
I think the best option for this clue is Peter, Bjorn, and John. They are scheduled to appear at other festivals later in the year and I have a good feeling they're going to make a stop on the farm this summer. Besides, they are due for a performance.
Truly, the best use for a Philosophy degree: Arguing on the internet.
I kid, I kid. These clues are designed to keep our interest up until the third of next month; at which point we'll know if either of the parties are correct.
...or not. I mean, neither of them could end up on the roster or both... which would cause a headache for those trying to figure who was right
I agree that we are all allowed to voice our opinions, but lets be cool okay! That's all...it's supposed to be fun, not a race to see who is right and who is wrong...correct?
You got it right Monkey. Here's some of that karma back.
I am trying to talk DjjD1 out of the idea for clue #seis (creo que si es seis).
I guess we will have to wait and see what this means.
However, I think it is interesting to note that the farmhound has now turned our attention to the upcoming clues. As I understand it, the tweets from farmhound are meant to help us in solving the clues. Had we not already gotten the correct answer for clue #1, he would still be prodding us along, trying to steer us in the right direction. However, his has now turned forward, which makes me think we have the correct answer on our hands.
Post by BonnarooDetective on Jan 18, 2009 18:48:06 GMT -5
Hey wait, I've got it.
Peanut Butter was invented by George Washington Carver. George Washington Carver is almost the same name as George Washington. George Washington was one of our founding fathers, so was Ben Franklin. Ben Franklin is often attributed with inventing electricity. Electricity = AC/DC!!!
AC/DC is from Sydney, which could be considered a westward bay.
And they have a song called, "Have a drink on me" which is analogous to "invites you to take a big gulp".