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sure hippies and hipsters have their own stereotypes, including fashion, just like any social group.
but my biggest problem is the arrogance. you can approach a hippie and just start a conversation, and not feel judged right away. hipsters just seem to look down on anyone that's not the same of them.
I just moved to nyc, and have successfully approached and made friends with "hippie dressing" people hanging around. If I go near a hipster group, i get a "what do you want?" vibe right away.
you don't need to judge one's clothes to figure out they're douchbags
but my biggest problem is the arrogance. you can approach a hippie and just start a conversation, and not feel judged right away. hipsters just seem to look down on anyone that's not the same of them.
I think the exact same could be said about hippies. at least the hippies I deal with at work, on the farm and (some) on this forum.
And if you don't believe me, go dig up some of Dude's posts and tell me at least some hippies aren't judgmental pricks.
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
I see no difference between hipsters and hippies. Not to say they are the same, but just that pretty much anything negative to be said about hipsters can in kind be applied to hippies. Like their style of dress. That's silly to point out, because hippies also have an equally strict dress code with its own merit for ridicule.
Your reference to strict dress code is interesting. Back in my real punk rock days (before I had to get a real job ) there was always an arrogance regarding dress. Some people were "doing it wrong". I always picked on the fashion piunks and did my own thing. What's so rebellious about wearing a uniform anyway? Not that I didn't do the spiky leather bondage pants thing sometimes, but I was more into rocking plaid sportscoats and shiny disco shirts. All the punks and skins wore Doc Martins and I flat refused to promote name brand fashion.
And as far as the hippie dress code is concerned, be happy that the god damn filthy crusty dirty commie lazy slacker hippies aren't walking around fucking naked.
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
I am really finding this whole thread hilarious - here are a bunch of people griping and moaning about hipsters while saying that the difference between hipsters and hippies is that hippies are more accepting.
Uhhhhh - if hippies are more accepting - then why does this thread exist at all - shouldn't hippies be accepting of hipsters??? and emo kids??? and custy posers????
I am really finding this whole thread hilarious - here are a bunch of people griping and moaning about hipsters while saying that the difference between hipsters and hippies is that hippies are more accepting.
Uhhhhh - if hippies are more accepting - then why does this thread exist at all - shouldn't hippies be accepting of hipsters??? and emo kids??? and custy posers????
I don't get it
im 100% with this statement...hippies, in stereotype, are the most accepting and laid back people...this thread isnt very accepting of hipsters...not saying im a hipster, because i consider myself a hippie...however, i dont wear tye-die shirts and hemp necklaces with little glass mushrooms on them...to me, its all attitude
I am really finding this whole thread hilarious - here are a bunch of people griping and moaning about hipsters while saying that the difference between hipsters and hippies is that hippies are more accepting.
Uhhhhh - if hippies are more accepting - then why does this thread exist at all - shouldn't hippies be accepting of hipsters??? and emo kids??? and custy posers????
I don't get it
..to me, its all attitude
i agree with you , and when an attitude is bad - no matter WHAT you are - its not a good thing. Just like a lot trash hippy, a snobby hipster - neither is a good thing. IMO
i agree with you , and when an attitude is bad - no matter WHAT you are - its not a good thing. Just like a lot trash hippy, a snobby hipster - neither is a good thing. IMO
This is what I mean ^^^ It was just strange to have people on this board hatin' on anything - or any one group of people
Post by lordrockinhood on Nov 17, 2008 16:52:37 GMT -5
It makes me think, I mean, I don't really know TOO much specifically about the majority of peeps on this board except that we come from ALL OVER the place... imagine you happen to be in a hipster circle, (or whatever circle,) you don't see anything wrong with it, or who you yourself are... it's simply who you are... but you come here because you like to talk about music, concerts, or random whatever.... You like the people here, they seem down to earth and accepting, all with a common interest of extreme passion for music... and THEN, you find a thread that singles out and makes fun...
I know it wouldn't make me smile and feel closer to the community
I'm not saying there shouldn't be threads about hipsters and/or hippies or whatever... I like to think most peeps can laugh at themselves, but, there's a grey line in there somewhere
^I have never been really sure if I belong to a "tribe" or not. I am not really a hippie, though I like the music and the druqs. I am not really a hipster though I have friends who most likely are, and I do enjoy a pbr. I dont really know I am just me I guess. Though just as an observation, anytime a group gets to insular a certain herd d-tard mentality takes over. Like Fish there is a lot of blind arrogance in a hippy or anarchist telling you to do your own thing, but do it my way or you aren't cool. I just think it is sociology and human groupthink behaviors. Of course if any of you want to join the Jesse's we are taking apps this week, but make sure you don't tuck your shirt in. We lost our belt last week, and as a group we are to lazy to go get a new one, so that is how people can know how cool we are this week.
It makes me think, I mean, I don't really know TOO much specifically about the majority of peeps on this board except that we come from ALL OVER the place... imagine you happen to be in a hipster circle, (or whatever circle,) you don't see anything wrong with it, or who you yourself are... it's simply who you are... but you come here because you like to talk about music, concerts, or random whatever.... You like the people here, they seem down to earth and accepting, all with a common interest of extreme passion for music... and THEN, you find a thread that singles out and makes fun...
I know it wouldn't make me smile and feel closer to the community
I'm not saying there shouldn't be threads about hipsters and/or hippies or whatever... I like to think most peeps can laugh at themselves, but, there's a grey line in there somewhere
See - this is the thought that went through my mind ^^^^
As I was reading this thread - I was thinking about my daughter - she dresses pretty emo but is not really emo. She likes jam bands AND emo music AND screamo AND classical AND bluegrass AND a bunch of other stuff - yet she wears skinny jeans, black t-shirts - has her hair dyed red, wears Converse or Vans (skater type shoes) She would not necessarily fit in with the hippie crowd as far as the way she dresses - yet she likes most of the music. So in some ways I guess my daughter is a hipster emo kid with good taste in music???
Post by sparklybecca on Nov 17, 2008 18:28:17 GMT -5
^meg, its not people like your daughter i have problems with - shes a young teenager. its the ones that reside in BK ages 21-35, who dont like leaving that burrough, and have an air about them like they are better than everyone else....this is definately not your daughter. .(and LRH this doesnt include you - or anyone im friends with actually )...
i have no idea why i keep getting sucked back in here
^meg, its not people like your daughter i have problems with - shes a young teenager. its the ones that reside in BK ages 21-35, who dont like leaving that burrough, and have an air about them like they are better than everyone else....this is definately not your daughter. .(and LRH this doesnt include you - or anyone im friends with actually )...
i have no idea why i keep getting sucked back in here
Oh I know that - in all honesty - I can't see you having a real problem with most people unless they are being really obnoxious
^meg, its not people like your daughter i have problems with - shes a young teenager. its the ones that reside in BK ages 21-35, who dont like leaving that burrough, and have an air about them like they are better than everyone else....this is definately not your daughter. .(and LRH this doesnt include you - or anyone im friends with actually )...
i have no idea why i keep getting sucked back in here
I think you just worded that as well as it could be. I always get into these types of discussions and pretty much every time it reminds me that it's not a certain group (emo, hipster, whatever) that annoys me, it's just stupid, arrogant people. You find them in any clique.
I think what bothers me about the hipsters specifically, though, is the fact that it all seems so forced. 90% of hipsters seem like they dress a certain way and listen to certain music simply to be accepted by other hipsters. Nothing seems natural about it. Arrogance seems to run rampant through the hipster society, too.
I've said it on here before and I'll say it again. Just be.
Post by steveternal on Nov 18, 2008 0:04:58 GMT -5
This isn't really a fair discussion because the two terms are not equal. "Hippie" is generally considered a positive or at least neutral classification of a person, but "hipster" is usually derogatory. Many people will proudly identify themselves as hippies (as evidenced here), but I've never met anyone who does so as a hipster. It's exclusively a term cast on others, and usually as a blanket statement based on sparse knowledge of the individual (look at his vintage shirt! look at her haircut! look at the way he just rolled his eyes! Hipster.) Stereotypes are volatile enough without the added problem of using (and misusing) the various terms differently.
i've known some REALLY obnoxious 'hipsters' and some really obnoxious 'hippies'
the hipsters with their fantastically disheveled hair, expensive thrift style sweater, and patent leather shoes
hippies always talking about how beautiful the world is since they first experienced L at a Phil show and now are part of this amazing "Family". oh and they worked hard for those wings
*i like coconuts, you can break them open they smell like ladies lyin in the sun** *Hell I don't even know where I am** *for now I must sit here and ponder the yonder: The herbivores did well cause their food didn't never run** *We listen, if it feels good We shake** *You made a big impression for a girl of your size, Now I can't get by without you and your big brown eyes.**