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President Bush has resorted anew to the sleaziest fear-mongering and mass manipulation of an administration and public life dedicated to realizing the lowest of our expectations. And he has now applied these poisons to the 2008 presidential election, on behalf of the party at whose center he and John McCain lurk.
Mr. Bush has predicted that the election of a Democratic president could "eventually lead to another attack on the United States." This ludicrous, infuriating, holier-than-thou and most importantly bone-headedly wrong statement came during a May 13 interview with Politico.com and online users of Yahoo.
The question was phrased as follows: "If we were to pull out of Iraq next year, what's the worst that could happen, what's the doomsday scenario?"
The president replied: "Doomsday scenario of course is that extremists throughout the Middle East would be emboldened, which would eventually lead to another attack on the United States. The biggest issue we face is, it's bigger than Iraq, it's this ideological struggle against cold-blooded killers who will kill people to achieve their political objectives."
Mr. Bush, at long last, has it not dawned on you that the America you have now created, includes "cold-blooded killers who will kill people to achieve their political objectives?" They are those in -- or formerly in -- your employ, who may yet be charged some day with war crimes.
Through your haze of self-congratulation and self-pity, do you still have no earthly clue that this nation has laid waste to Iraq to achieve your political objectives? "This ideological struggle," Mr. Bush, is taking place within this country.
It is a struggle between Americans who cherish freedom, ours and everybody else's, and Americans like you, sir, to whom freedom is just a brand name, just like "Patriot Act" is a brand name or "Protect America" is a brand name.
But wait, there's more: You also said "Iraq is the place where al-Qaida and other extremists have made their stand and they will be defeated." They made no "stand" in Iraq, sir, you allowed them to assemble there!
As certainly as if that were the plan, the borders were left wide open by your government's farcical post-invasion strategy of "they'll greet us as liberators." And as certainly as if that were the plan, the inspiration for another generation of terrorists in another country was provided by your government's farcical post-invasion strategy of letting the societal infra-structure of Iraq dissolve, to be replaced by an American viceroy, enforced by merciless mercenaries who shoot unarmed Iraqis and then evade prosecution in any country by hiding behind your skirts, sir.
Terrorism inside Iraq is your creation, Mr. Bush!
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It was a Yahoo user who brought up the second topic upon whose introduction Mr. Bush should have passed, or punted, or gotten up and left the room claiming he heard Dick Cheney calling him.
"Do you feel," asked an ordinary American, "that you were misled on Iraq?"
"I feel like -- I felt like, there were weapons of mass destruction," the president said. "You know, 'mislead' is a strong word, it almost connotes some kind of intentional -- I don't think so, I think there was a -- not only our intelligence community, but intelligence communities all across the world shared the same assessment. And so I was disappointed to see how flawed our intelligence was."
Flawed.
You, Mr. Bush, and your tragically know-it-all minions, threw out every piece of intelligence that suggested there were no such weapons.
You, Mr. Bush, threw out every person who suggested that the sober, contradictory, reality-based intelligence needed to be listened to, fast.
You, Mr. Bush, are responsible for how "intelligence communities all across the world shared the same assessment."
You and the sycophants you dredged up and put behind the most important steering wheel in the world propagated palpable nonsense and shoved it down the throat of every intelligence community across the world and punished anybody who didn't agree it was really chicken salad.
And you, Mr. Bush, threw under the bus, all of the subsequent critics who bravely stepped forward later to point out just how much of a self-fulfilling prophecy you had embraced, and adopted as this country's policy in lieu of, say, common sense.
The fiasco of pre-war intelligence, sir, is your fiasco.
You should build a great statue of yourself turning a deaf ear to the warnings of realists, while you are shown embracing the three-card monte dealers like Richard Perle and Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney.
That would be a far more fitting tribute to your legacy, Mr. Bush, than this presidential library you are constructing as a giant fable about your presidency, an edifice you might as claim was built from "Iraqi weapons of mass destruction" because there will be just as many of those inside your presidential library as there were inside Saddam Hussein's Iraq.
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Of course if there is one overriding theme to this president's administration it is the utter, always-failing, inability to know when to quit when it is behind. And so Mr. Bush answered yet another question about this layered, nuanced, wheels-within-wheels garbage heap that constituted his excuse for war.
"And so you feel that you didn't have all the information you should have or the right spin on that information?"
"No, no," replied the President. "I was told by people, that they had weapons of mass destruction ..."
People? What people? The insane informant "Curveball?" The Iraqi snake-oil salesman Ahmed Chalabi? The American snake-oil salesman Dick Cheney?
"I was told by people that they had weapons of mass destruction, as were members of Congress, who voted for the resolution to get rid of Saddam Hussein.
"And of course, the political heat gets on and they start to run and try to hide from their votes."
Mr. Bush, you destroyed the evidence that contradicted the resolution you jammed down the Congress's throat, the way you jammed it down the nation's throat. When required by law to verify that your evidence was accurate, you simply resubmitted it, with phrases amounting to "See, I done proved it," virtually written in the margins in crayon.
You defied patriotic Americans to say "The Emperor Has No Clothes," only with the stakes -- as you and the mental dwarves in your employ put it -- being a "mushroom cloud over an American city."
And as a final crash of self-indulgent nonsense, when the incontrovertible truth of your panoramic and murderous deceit has even begun to cost your political party seemingly perpetual congressional seats in places like North Carolina and Mississippi, you can actually say with a straight face, sir, that for members of Congress "the political heat gets on and they start to run and try to hide from their votes" -- while you greet the political heat and try to run and hide from your presidency, and your legacy -- 4,000 of the Americans you were supposed to protect -- dead in Iraq, with your only feeble, pathetic answer being, "I was told by people that they had weapons of mass destruction."
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Then came Mr. Bush's final blow to our nation's solar plexus, his last reopening of our common wounds, his last remark that makes the rest of us question not merely his leadership or his judgment but his very suitably to remain in office.
"Mr. President," he was asked, "you haven't been golfing in recent years. Is that related to Iraq?
"Yes," began perhaps the most startling reply of this nightmarish blight on our lives as Americans on our history. "It really is. I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died, to see the Commander in Chief playing golf. I feel I owe it to the families to be as -- to be in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal."
Golf, sir? Golf sends the wrong signal to the grieving families of our men and women butchered in Iraq? Do you think these families, Mr. Bush, their lives blighted forever, care about you playing golf? Do you think, sir, they care about you?
You, Mr. Bush, let their sons and daughters be killed. Sir, to show your solidarity with them you gave up golf? Sir, to show your solidarity with them you didn't give up your pursuit of this insurance-scam, profiteering, morally and financially bankrupting war.
Sir, to show your solidarity with them you didn't even give up talking about Iraq a subject about which you have incessantly proved without pause or backwards glance, that you may literally be the least informed person in the world?
Sir, to show your solidarity with them, you didn't give up your presidency? In your own words "solidarity as best as I can" is to stop a game? That is the "best" you can do?
Four thousand Americans give up their lives and your sacrifice was to give up golf! Golf. Not "Gulf" -- golf.
And still it gets worse. Because it proves that the president's unendurable sacrifice, his unbearable pain, the suspension of getting to hit a stick with a ball, was not even his own damned idea.
"Mr. President, was there a particular moment or incident that brought you to that decision, or how did you come to that?"
"I remember when [diplomat Sergio Vieira] de Mello, who was at the U.N., got killed in Baghdad as a result of these murderers taking this good man's life. And I was playing golf, I think I was in central Texas, and they pulled me off the golf course and I said, it's just not worth it any more to do."
Your one, tone-deaf, arrogant, pathetic, embarrassing gesture, and you didn't even think of it yourself? The great Bushian sacrifice -- an Army private loses a leg, a Marine loses half his skull, 4,000 of their brothers and sisters lose their lives -- and you lose golf, and they have to pull you off the golf course to get you to just do that?
If it's even true.
Apart from your medical files, which dutifully record your torn calf muscle and the knee pain which forced you to give up running at the same time -- coincidence, no doubt -- the bombing in Baghdad which killed Sergio Vieira de Mello of the U.N. and interrupted your round of golf was on Aug. 19, 2003.
Yet CBS News has records of you playing golf as late as Oct. 13 of that year, nearly two months later.
Mr. Bush, I hate to break it to you 6 1/2 years after you yoked this nation and your place in history to the wrong war, in the wrong place, against the wrong people, but the war in Iraq is not about you.
It is not, Mr. Bush, about your grief when American after American comes home in a box.
It is not, Mr. Bush, about what your addled brain has produced in the way of paranoid delusions of risks that do not exist, ready to be activated if some Democrat, and not your twin Mr. McCain, succeeds you.
The war in Iraq, your war, Mr. Bush, is about how you accomplished the derangement of two nations, and how you helped funnel billions of taxpayer dollars to lascivious and perennially thirsty corporations like Halliburton and Blackwater, and how you sent 4,000 Americans to their deaths for nothing.
It is not, Mr. Bush, about your golf game! And, sir, if you have any hopes that next Jan. 20 will not be celebrated as a day of soul-wrenching, heart-felt thanksgiving, because your faithless stewardship of this presidency will have finally come to a merciful end, this last piece of advice:
When somebody asks you, sir, about Democrats who must now pull this country back from the abyss you have placed us at ...
When somebody asks you, sir, about the cooked books and faked threats you foisted on a sincere and frightened nation ...
When somebody asks you, sir, about your gallant, noble, self-abdicating sacrifice of your golf game so as to soothe the families of the war dead.
Watchin' a stretch of road, miles of light explode. Driftin' off a thing I'd never done before. Watchin' a crowd roll in. Out go the lights it begins. A feelin' in my bones I've never felt before...
All you Bush haters, you really think Hillary and Obama give a flying flip about you or anything about you? They are in this for what they can get out of it on only that!
All you Bush haters, you really think Hillary and Obama give a flying flip about you or anything about you? They are in this for what they can get out of it on only that!
I don't hate Bush. I hate what he's done to this country. Maybe Obama won't be any better. Maybe he won't solve all the world's problems. But I know one thing, and one thing for sure....There's no way in hell that he could screw up this country and our standing in the rest of the world any more than Bush has. Worst. President. Ever.
the worst president was Mr Clinton. He had Obama's head given to him on a platter and refused to do anything about it. The ecomomy was booming only because of the insanity of the dotcom fiasco. The current mess we are in actually started the February prior to the 2000 election when the stock market lost all that money. Of course, Bush got the blame. Over 60 people that were closely tied to Clinton died violent, mysterious deaths. The "I smoked pot but never inhaled" lie. Have you ever smoked and didn't inhale? I have never and neither has anybody else. He protested the Vietnam war on foreign soil in the 60's. The lies to congress....... Worst president -- Bill Clinton
the worst president was Mr Clinton. He had Obama's head given to him on a platter and refused to do anything about it. The ecomomy was booming only because of the insanity of the dotcom fiasco. The current mess we are in actually started the February prior to the 2000 election when the stock market lost all that money. Of course, Bush got the blame. Over 60 people that were closely tied to Clinton died violent, mysterious deaths. The "I smoked pot but never inhaled" lie. Have you ever smoked and didn't inhale? I have never and neither has anybody else. He protested the Vietnam war on foreign soil in the 60's. The lies to congress....... Worst president -- Bill Clinton
First I assume you mean Osama. Second, Osama and Sadam were creations of the Reagan Bush admin. Our military trained, supplied them weapons. Clinton did attempt to bomb Osama during his finals days but Osama got out before hand. The republicans at that time jumped and yelled foul and that he was only doing it as a "wag the dog" to keep focus of his impeachment.
We hated Iran so we help Sadam and gave him weapons in the Reagan with old buddies Rumsfield and others. Osama was given weapons and training to keep the Russians out of Afghanistan then turned on America after the first Gulf War because of what he considered unfair US practices in war.
Also to say the economy was good ONLY because of the dotcom is a very simple view. Dotcoms made a few people rich but didnt create large companies. Clinton and the US had a good international standing making it easy to trade. Now Clinton did sign NAFDA along with many republicans and democrats. The only person at the time who strongly voiced oppisition to it was Rush Limpballs.
All you Bush haters, you really think Hillary and Obama give a flying flip about you or anything about you? They are in this for what they can get out of it on only that!
the worst president was Mr Clinton. He had Obama's head given to him on a platter and refused to do anything about it. The ecomomy was booming only because of the insanity of the dotcom fiasco. The current mess we are in actually started the February prior to the 2000 election when the stock market lost all that money. Of course, Bush got the blame. Over 60 people that were closely tied to Clinton died violent, mysterious deaths. The "I smoked pot but never inhaled" lie. Have you ever smoked and didn't inhale? I have never and neither has anybody else. He protested the Vietnam war on foreign soil in the 60's. The lies to congress....... Worst president -- Bill Clinton
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1000's of starving comedians in this world and you wanna be one. This is the funniest sh!t (besides southga posts) that I have read on here in a while.
There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January. In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq.
When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, tell them the following:
FDR (DEMOCRAT) led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us; Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ... an average of 112,500 per year.
Truman (DEMOCRAT) finished that war and started one in Korea. North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ... an average of 18,334 per year.
John F. Kennedy (DEMOCRAT) started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.< SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
Johnson (DEMOCRAT) turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost ... an average of 5,800 per year.
Clinton (DEMOCRAT) went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.
This one is a fact that makes me mad as hell.
In the years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and, North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. And the Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking.
But Wait, There's more.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno (DEMOCRAT) to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.
We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton (DEMOCRAT) to find the Rose law firm billing records.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!
Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB! The Military morale is high!
The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts.
But Wait .......There's more!
JOHN GLENN (on the Senate floor - January 26, 2004)
Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do for a living. This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do for a living.
This IS a typical, though sad, example of what some who have never served think of the military.
Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn):
'How can you run for Senate when you've never held a real job?'
Senator Glenn (D-Ohio): 'I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions. I was in the space program. It wasn't mycheckbook , Howard; it was my life on the line. It was not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank. < SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> I ask you to go with me, as I went the other day... to a veteran's hospital and look those men ... with their mangled bodies ... in the eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job!
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You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee ... and you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their DAD'S didn't hold a job.
You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in Arlington National Cemetery, where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch those waving flags. You stand there, and you think about this nation, and you have the gall to tell ME that those people didn't have a job?
What about Metzenbaum? For those who don't remember During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney representing the Communist Party in the USA.
Now he's a Senator!
If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English thank a Veteran.
In all those wars you stated, you are correct that we were not attacked, BUT, our allies were. Bush has started a pre-emptive war, where no one was attacked, for the first time in modern history. It doesn't matter how little we, or the rest of the world disliked Sadam, they were a sovereign nation. If we are going to go on how many of his own people a dictator has killed, why aren't we invading the Sudan or Rwanda? Hmmm, I wonder, maybe it's because it's not in the middle east and it's not gonna make Bush and his cronies a shitton of money. Please don't try and make Bush look like the noble one. It's foolish at best.
The point you skip though is that WWII, Korean War, and Vietnam were protecting people from aggressors, communist or fascist. When W invaded Iraq it was as an aggressor, and to a country that had little or nothing to do with us being attacked. After FDR didn't invade Venezuela after we were attacked by Japan.
Also if you think those wars in Iraq or Afghanistan are done with or we have liberated or conquered them then lets go home. Oh yeah we cant they are more dangerous now, plus they do not have a lot of the basic necessities like water or electricity. The Iraq war was a war of hubris, designed to be a profit center for American corporations that funded Bush's election. They do not make sense, and we should not be there. Whether we should stay to clean up the mess we caused is the only real question left in my opinion.
Would have done it myself but I had to write something and use my brain not just copy and paste
OK here is the text I put asterisks next to the rebuttals.
DON’T DREAD HOLIDAY POLITICAL DISCUSSIONS – READ THESE REBUTTALS TO TYPICAL GOP ARGUMENTS
In another hysterical right wing email that I received, the following arguments were made to generically slam Democrats. I thought it might be of value to do a little debunking. The bolded quotes are from the right, followed by my responses.
There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January. In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That’s just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq.
*************There were no combat related killings in Detroit that January and it’s a rare month when only 39 die in Iraq.
FDR (DEMOCRAT) led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us; Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost … an average of 112,500 per year.
********************Germany didn’t attack us in WWII because they couldn’t reach us. They did, however, attack many of our strong allies including the UK. (Not to mention perpetrate one of history’s most heinous atrocities.) Criticizing FDR doesn’t help one’s argument much. Also, comparing today’s war deaths to those from 60 or even 30 years ago, bearing in mind modern medical technology, is an ignorant argument.
John F. Kennedy (DEMOCRAT) started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. Johnson (DEMOCRAT) turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost.
************Kennedy did start the Vietnam conflict, which is a great argument against an Obama presidency. Althought Kennedy was a great man, his term in the Senate did not prepare him for the foreign policy challenges he faced including Vietnam, the Cuban missle crisis and the Bay of Pigs. We certainly don’t need another President on training wheels.
Johnson obviously didn’t help the situation, but most of the death occurred during Nixon’s tenure.
Clinton (DEMOCRAT) went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us.
************In Bosnia, Bill Clinton and Wesley Clark, with the full cooperation of NATO, stopped another European genocide without losing ONE American soldier. By the way, Republican weiner Armey stood on the House floor and viciously criticized President Clinton for this effort with NO regard for the morale of the troops. Interesting to note that French approval seems so important here! “Pass the Freedom Fries.”
He was offered Osama bin Laden’s head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.
***********When Bill Clinton was given the location of bin Laden there was a chance he could have been taken out, however, because of the number of women and children that also would have been killed, President Clinton did not pull the trigger. Also, this was BEFORE 9/11. Hindsight is easy. We had no evidence against bin Laden that would hold up in any court. In fact, we don’t have any such evidence connecting bin Laden with 9/11.
In the years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and, North Korea without firing a shot.
************Boy, this is a mouth full of inaccuracies. OK, there are currently no weapons inspectors in either Iran or North Korea. Bragging about our buddy-buddy relationship with Libya is an odd thing since Mohmar Khaddafi, who we now trust so thoroughly, is the only world leader we can tie directly to a terrorist act against the US – he orchestrated the bombing of the Pan Am flight 103 two days before Christmas over Lockerbie, Scotland, killing 270 people. This is a trusted Bush friend. The Taliban is not crushed but, in fact, on the rise in Afghanistan since we pulled needed resources from there and into Iraq. Plenty of shots have been fired.
Bush captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. And the Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking.
***************Saddam Hussein was not a terrorist but a nasty dictator. No one has defined a head-of-state as a terrorist. It is not known how many people he killed but he was tried and executed for organizing the deaths of 148. George Bush executed 150 people while governor of Texas.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno (DEMOCRAT) to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.
**********We still haven’t “taken” Iraq and we’ve been there 5 years.
We’ve been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton (DEMOCRAT) to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.
**********************We never found evidence of WMD in Iraq, but Hillary did find the Rose Law Firm records and they supported her statements and contributed to her complete exoneration by not one, but three separate government investigations.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.
**************It is right to credit our great military for their fine work. However, any Republican still using Chappaquiddick as an argument probably still has a rotary phone. Kennedy does have a tell-all book coming out soon, so maybe he’ll shed some light.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!
******************If we’d taken a little more time in Florida, we would have put the right person in the White House and we wouldn’t be in the horrible state that we’re in today.
The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts.
*****************************The “biased media” is on the right. Remember its Bill O’Reilly who announced that a bomb exploding in Baghdad was no longer worthy of news coverage.
Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB! The Military morale is high!
***************************Military morale is anything but high according to the surveys. The troops, like the American people, question the war and its policy in the same percentages. 70 percent of US citizens now think the war in Iraq was a mistake.
The fact is, over this holiday season, you probably won’t find very many right-wing “Uncle Mac’s” trying to defend the Bush agenda. Most of them have allowed the reality to shut them up. Happy Holidays!
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