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Post by masshysteria on Dec 15, 2007 12:32:02 GMT -5
Ok, I have a friend that is selling his Pearl kit for 700 bucks (I think he paid close to 1500 with everything included). It is less than a year old I think, and he has hardly played it all so it is in nearly perfect shape. I am going to find out more information on the kit later tonight, but I have a few general questions to ask if there are any drummers on these boards.
1) How long did it take you to learn drums, and what would you say is the hardest part about learning drums? 2) Do you know of any websites/learning tools that would be very effective for me to learn drums (this will mostly be self taught, but I do have a few people I can trade corn for drum lessons)? 3) How much is usual maintanece on drum kits if lets say I play on average 5-10 hours a week (in the beginning at least? 4) How many hours would you suggest someone brand new to drumming play weekly?
I know I will have a lot more questions after I obtain more info, but for right now these will do. Also, if anyone has any suggestions about anything drum related, good websites to check out, good forums for newbies to check out, or anything that could be some help, please post it on here. I want to get as much information as I can if I am going to invest 700 bucks.
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Post by cajuninsaudi on Dec 15, 2007 13:13:29 GMT -5
I've spent the past six months doing the same thing. I played drums in elementary/Jr. High/High school a long time ago but it was only a single snare and Tri-Toms and not a full kit. I ran across a similar deal to you and got a kit this summer and have been having a blast. I've found a few decents basics links so far:
I'm sure there are better ones out there but those are just a few I''ve bookmarked. I'd suggest going to a music store and paying for a few lessons to get started. An instructor will keep you from starting out with bad habits which can hinder you forever.
For me, aside from the sheer mechanics of playing different beats with each limb, keeping time has been difficult. For that I bought a TAMA Rythym Watch and that has proven to be the best practice aid.
Post by steveternal on Dec 15, 2007 13:35:10 GMT -5
Good for you, man! I'll throw out some A's to your Q's.
1) First, let me say that I've been playing for 10 years, and it was entirely self-taught primarily, then I took 6 semesters of percussion lessons in college. With that said, I still wouldn't say I've "learned" the drums. They are so multifaceted and complex that it's an endless learning process. I would say the hardest part, though, is understanding/accepting that to play well you must learn the boring basics like grip, sticking, control, proper flexing and movement, etc. Even the best players still practice that stuff every day. Also, developing callouses. 2) I'm not too familiar with websites for learning the drums (although www.drummerworld.com has good info on all the great drummers, plus awesome videos), but I can recommend some fantastic books that cover beginner to advanced playing. "Stick Control for the Modern Drummer" by Stone, "Podemski's Standard Snare Drum Method" by Podemski, and "Encyclopedia of Groove" by Rock immediately come to mind. Also it's invaluable to learn and incorporate the Rudiments (http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments.html). 3) Like all instruments, maintenance for the drums depends partly on where they are kept, so avoid places that are too damp or too dry, or that fluctuate greatly in temperature. You may want to replace your drum heads every couple years, and you'll definitely need to buy new drumsticks frequently. A lot of music stores sell sticks in bricks (ha!), so they're a lot cheaper. 4) Dude, play as much as you can! The more practice, the quicker you improve. Just remember that in addition to playing around and having fun on the drums, that serious practice on important stuff will really make the difference.
I've spent the past six months doing the same thing. I played drums in elementary/Jr. High/High school a long time ago but it was only a single snare and Tri-Toms and not a full kit. I ran across a similar deal to you and got a kit this summer and have been having a blast. I've found a few decents basics links so far:
I'm sure there are better ones out there but those are just a few I''ve bookmarked. I'd suggest going to a music store and paying for a few lessons to get started. An instructor will keep you from starting out with bad habits which can hinder you forever.
For me, aside from the sheer mechanics of playing different beats with each limb, keeping time has been difficult. For that I bought a TAMA Rythym Watch and that has proven to be the best practice aid.
LOL! Dude! You kinda sorta "forgot" to say ANYTHING about any of this....like ever ???
"I played bass like once..." Secret super drummer..... ;D
All I can do is recommend you check out www.billraydrums.com. This is one of Boz's childhood friends and he is good and I think he does lessons via the internet.
While there - check out his blog about Ike Turner's death - pretty touching
Post by areyoukind on Dec 16, 2007 11:28:40 GMT -5
seems like they've got all the basics covered, but i'd just like to add:
find some people to jam with, drums are boring if you don't have people to play with ever heard someone be like "do you know what song this is" and chickabangaboomboom etc
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Post by masshysteria on Dec 17, 2007 15:07:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the input. I am going to end up buying the kit, just need to get a little loan from the bro (he wants to play his bass with me so he is going to help me out). I cant wait and from what has been told to me that this is one of the higher end Pearl kits. If I remember correctly it comes with a bass drum, snare, 3 other drums, 4 Zidjan cymbols, crash, ride, throne, chain driven kick pedal, all the hardware, and more that I can't remember. The drums are going to be my way of rehab off of the corn (hospitals and real world jobs do not approve of corn use). So I will be practicing a lot because of that.
"That's the big thing about education. People can be book smart, but not really intelligent about anything else. A lot of times they just taking in all this information and regurgitate it. It's much more important to process it and personalize it. To apply it to your world, to your life. You have to walk the walk, or you can't really report about it honestly."
Thanks for the input. I am going to end up buying the kit, just need to get a little loan from the bro (he wants to play his bass with me so he is going to help me out). I cant wait and from what has been told to me that this is one of the higher end Pearl kits. If I remember correctly it comes with a bass drum, snare, 3 other drums, 4 Zidjan cymbols, crash, ride, throne, chain driven kick pedal, all the hardware, and more that I can't remember. The drums are going to be my way of rehab off of the corn (hospitals and real world jobs do not approve of corn use). So I will be practicing a lot because of that. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well i used to play ,, and let me stress i was no drum god by any means , i found playing the drums let ALOT of stress go away . Like with everything practice makes perfect, I would also suggest Lessons also . and learning how to read music will be a huge help too.. good luck ..
