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Actually, how are they better than bad EDM at this point? At least those bands are fresh and haven't already played 8 times. I mean honestly then being able to play their instruments well doesn't negate their lack of relevancy at this point.
This is an all-star post if I have ever seen one.
1. How are they better than bad EDM? Well they actually play instruments instead of hitting play on a laptop. Dancing around like a fool and throwing cake into the crowd.
2. Bands are fresh? I don't think anyone would consider Botgore or Getter fresh. They're all trash, which in my mind is the opposite of fresh.
3. Played 8 times before? I would rather see a band for the 10th time than see a shitty DJ press play.
4. Relevant? How is borgore or getter more relevant? Because the 19-yo Molly munchers love them shitty DJs makes them more relevant? If that is the case, I would much rather be a non-relevant jam band that has consistently toured and played for 15 years than a shitty "press-play Trap crap DJ of the month".
I don't want Bonnaroo to go back in time, those early lineups were jammy garbage for the most part. I want Bonnaroo to be a relevant festival in 2017, simple. Other fests have no issue doing this, why can't Bonnaroo get with the program?
I don't really see how throwing a bone to jam band fans is going back in time.
UM put on a great live show. I know they have played several times, but so have many other bands and djs. They are not a jam band really either. More of a band that can jam.
you guys are using pretty bad comparisons. here's a good one.
You dont choose what the buffet features, but when you see something you like in the buffet, you'll eat it if there's nothing better to stuff your face in. If you dont like it, you don't have to eat it.
also don't make the comparison that it's "old" food because that doesn't apply here.
More people need to leave the damn buffet and go to an actual, good restaurant instead.
I really like camping and am from the Southeast. So Chobee and Hulaween. Only other options. As terrible Roo will probably be, there is still a chance the lineup is more interesting than both of those.
Phish 6/23/2000 Lakewood Atlanta, GA Phish 6/24/2000 Lakewood Atlanta, GA Phish 3/1/2003 Greensboro Coliseum Greensboro, NC Phish 7/25/2003 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Charlotte, NC Phish 7/26/2003 Lakewood Atlanta, GA Phish 8/14/2004 Newport State Airport Coventry, VT Phish 8/15/2004 Newport State Airport Coventry, VT Phish 3/6/2009 Hampton Coliseum Hampton, VA Phish 6/20/2009 Alpine Valley East Troy, WI Phish 6/21/2009 Alpine Valley East Troy, WI Phish 10/30/2009 Empire Polo Club Indio, CA Phish 10/31/2009 Empire Polo Club Indio, CA Phish 11/1/2009 Empire Polo Club Indio, CA Phish 11/20/2009 U.S. Bank Arena Cincinatti, OH Phish 11/21/2009 U.S. Bank Arena Cincinatti, OH Phish 12/5/2009 John Paul Jones Arena Charlottesville, VA Phish 12/31/2009 American Airlines Arena Miami, FL Phish 7/1/2010 Time Warner Cable Music Pavilion Raleigh, NC Phish 7/2/2010 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Charlotte, NC Phish 7/3/2010 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Alpharetta, GA Phish 7/4/2010 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Alpharetta, GA Phish 12/30/2010 Madison Square Garden New York, NY Phish 12/31/2010 Madison Square Garden New York, NY Phish 1/1/2011 Madison Square Garden New York, NY Phish 6/17/2011 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Charlotte, NC Phish 6/18/2011 Time Warner Cable Music Pavilion Raleigh, NC Phish 6/19/2011 nTelos Pavilion Portsmouth, VA Phish 7/1/2011 Watkins Glen International Watkins Glen, NY Phish 7/2/2011 Watkins Glen International Watkins Glen, NY Phish 7/3/2011 Watkins Glen International Watkins Glen, NY Phish 6/10/2012 Great Stage Park Manchester, TN Phish 8/24/2012 Oak Mountain Amphitheatre Pelham, AL Phish 8/25/2012 Lakewood Atlanta, GA Phish 8/26/2012 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Charlotte, NC Phish 7/16/2013 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Alpharetta, GA Phish 7/17/2013 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Alpharetta, GA Phish 8/30/2013 Dicks Sporting Goods Park Commerce City, CO Phish 8/31/2013 Dicks Sporting Goods Park Commerce City, CO Phish 9/1/2013 Dicks Sporting Goods Park Commerce City, CO Phish 4/26/2014 Fairgrounds New Orleans, LA Phish 8/1/2014 The Wharf Orange Beach, AL Phish 8/2/2014 Oak Mountain Amphitheatre Pelham, AL Phish 8/3/2014 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Alpharetta, GA Phish 1/1/2015 American Airlines Arena Miami, FL Phish 1/2/2015 American Airlines Arena Miami, FL Phish 1/3/2015 American Airlines Arena Miami, FL Phish 7/31/2015 Lakewood Atlanta, GA Phish 8/1/2015 Lakewood Atlanta, GA Phish 8/2/2015 Tuscaloosa Amphitheater Tuscaloosa, AL Phish 8/21/2015 Watkins Glen International Watkins Glen, NY Phish 8/22/2015 Watkins Glen International Watkins Glen, NY Phish 8/23/2015 Watkins Glen International Watkins Glen, NY Phish 9/3/16 Dicks Sporting Goods Park Commerce City, CO Phish 9/4/16 Dicks Sporting Goods Park Commerce City, CO Phish 10/16/16 Jacksonville Memorial Arena Jacksonville, FL Phish 10/21/16 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Alpharetta, GA Phish 10/22/16 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Alpharetta, GA
Umphrey's McGee 5/2/2003 Orpheum Theater New Orleans, LA Umphrey's McGee 6/5/2009 Spirit of Suwanee Music Park Live Oak, FL Umphrey's McGee 2/6/2010 Tabernacle Atlanta, GA Umphrey's McGee 5/20/2011 The Hangout Gulf Shores, AL Umphrey's McGee 5/18/2012 The Hangout Gulf Shores, AL Umphrey's McGee 12/29/2012 Tabernacle Atlanta, GA Umphrey's McGee 12/30/2012 Tabernacle Atlanta, GA Umphrey's McGee 12/31/2012 Tabernacle Atlanta, GA Umphrey's McGee 5/16/2013 The Hangout Gulf Shores, AL Umphrey's McGee 4/16/2014 Saenger Theatre Mobile, AL Umphrey's McGee 4/17/2014 Civic Theatre New Orleans, LA Umphrey's McGee 6/13/2014 Great Stage Park Manchester, TN Umphrey's McGee 4/14/2016 Joy Theatre New Orleans, LA
Widespread Panic 5/1/2001 Garrett Coliseum Montgomery, AL Widespread Panic 12/31/2001 Philips Arena Atlanta, GA Widespread Panic 12/30/2002 Philips Arena Atlanta, GA Widespread Panic 12/31/2002 Philips Arena Atlanta, GA Widespread Panic 6/14/2003 Great Stage Park Manchester, TN Widespread Panic 12/30/2003 Philips Arena Atlanta, GA Widespread Panic 12/31/2003 Philips Arena Atlanta, GA Widespread Panic 4/18/2008 The Wharf Orange Beach, AL Widespread Panic 4/20/2008 The Wharf Orange Beach, AL Widespread Panic 10/31/2008 Lakefront Arena New Orleans, LA Widespread Panic 11/1/2008 Lakefront Arena New Orleans, LA Widespread Panic 4/17/2009 The Wharf Orange Beach, AL Widespread Panic 4/18/2009 The Wharf Mobile, AL Widespread Panic 10/10/2009 BJCC Arena Birmingham, AL Widespread Panic 5/20/2011 The Hangout Gulf Shores, AL Widespread Panic 10/2/2011 Mississippi Coast Coliseum Biloxi, MS
also there are literally only 4 decent jambands, so we don't have a ton of options for quality bookings.
At least they have a relatively new album. I just saw them at Hulaween and they were as good as ever. I dunno what other mid-tier jam bands are bigger than Umphreys, and they can draw the college fratboy stoner crowd pretty well.
1. How are they better than bad EDM? Well they actually play instruments instead of hitting play on a laptop. Dancing around like a fool and throwing cake into the crowd.
2. Bands are fresh? I don't think anyone would consider Botgore or Getter fresh. They're all trash, which in my mind is the opposite of fresh.
3. Played 8 times before? I would rather see a band for the 10th time than see a shitty DJ press play.
4. Relevant? How is borgore or getter more relevant? Because the 19-yo Molly munchers love them shitty DJs makes them more relevant? If that is the case, I would much rather be a non-relevant jam band that has consistently toured and played for 15 years than a shitty "press-play Trap crap DJ of the month".
You sound mad, you mad?
No, but your logic is ridiculous. Just admit that you don't like jam bands and would rather go to shitty DJs, thus validating Bonnaroo's shitty change in booking direction.
But I ain't gonna be excited about eating at Olive Garden when there's an actual nice place open across the street.
What you guys are absolutely failing to see is that almost nobody in this entire thread is excited to eat at Olive Garden. The ONLY point myself and Ken Bone contested was that Umphreys is as bad as Getter and Borgore.
Overwhelming consensus among everyone on the board: It's boring, im not excited, but its at least a decent act and better than Nghtmare.
Few detractors: You guys aren'y saying it in a mean enough way. They are as bad as Getter, oh wait no that was hyperbole. Wait no it wasn't. Wait yes I just am not that excited by an old act. Oh wait, that's PRECISELY what you have all been saying anyways.
Oh. They're definitely better than those two. It still remains an odd choice for what you're going to want to get people excited for your festival behind. Coupled with the other clues, it feels very much like they're trying to appeal to the jam base without really trying as it's just one clue out of five with a majority of the clues being trash edm.
No, but your logic is ridiculous. Just admit that you don't like jam bands and would rather go to shitty DJs, thus validating Bonnaroo's shitty change in booking direction.
I hate most DJs, but you keep getting funnier with every post. Please tell me more about the superior nature of guitars. I'm very interested.
Post by umphlovecincy on Jan 3, 2017 11:15:26 GMT -5
Eh, I'm happy (of course). They won't get me to roo by themselves, but its a step in the right direction. I really dont understand the logic of not wanting them there just because they have played a bunch. I understand if you just don't like them (totally understandable), but for people who do, they are one of the better options in my opinion.
Phish 6/23/2000 Lakewood Atlanta, GA Phish 6/24/2000 Lakewood Atlanta, GA Phish 3/1/2003 Greensboro Coliseum Greensboro, NC Phish 7/25/2003 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Charlotte, NC Phish 7/26/2003 Lakewood Atlanta, GA Phish 8/14/2004 Newport State Airport Coventry, VT Phish 8/15/2004 Newport State Airport Coventry, VT Phish 3/6/2009 Hampton Coliseum Hampton, VA Phish 6/20/2009 Alpine Valley East Troy, WI Phish 6/21/2009 Alpine Valley East Troy, WI Phish 10/30/2009 Empire Polo Club Indio, CA Phish 10/31/2009 Empire Polo Club Indio, CA Phish 11/1/2009 Empire Polo Club Indio, CA Phish 11/20/2009 U.S. Bank Arena Cincinatti, OH Phish 11/21/2009 U.S. Bank Arena Cincinatti, OH Phish 12/5/2009 John Paul Jones Arena Charlottesville, VA Phish 12/31/2009 American Airlines Arena Miami, FL Phish 7/1/2010 Time Warner Cable Music Pavilion Raleigh, NC Phish 7/2/2010 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Charlotte, NC Phish 7/3/2010 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Alpharetta, GA Phish 7/4/2010 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Alpharetta, GA Phish 12/30/2010 Madison Square Garden New York, NY Phish 12/31/2010 Madison Square Garden New York, NY Phish 1/1/2011 Madison Square Garden New York, NY Phish 6/17/2011 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Charlotte, NC Phish 6/18/2011 Time Warner Cable Music Pavilion Raleigh, NC Phish 6/19/2011 nTelos Pavilion Portsmouth, VA Phish 7/1/2011 Watkins Glen International Watkins Glen, NY Phish 7/2/2011 Watkins Glen International Watkins Glen, NY Phish 7/3/2011 Watkins Glen International Watkins Glen, NY Phish 6/10/2012 Great Stage Park Manchester, TN Phish 8/24/2012 Oak Mountain Amphitheatre Pelham, AL Phish 8/25/2012 Lakewood Atlanta, GA Phish 8/26/2012 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Charlotte, NC Phish 7/16/2013 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Alpharetta, GA Phish 7/17/2013 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Alpharetta, GA Phish 8/30/2013 Dicks Sporting Goods Park Commerce City, CO Phish 8/31/2013 Dicks Sporting Goods Park Commerce City, CO Phish 9/1/2013 Dicks Sporting Goods Park Commerce City, CO Phish 4/26/2014 Fairgrounds New Orleans, LA Phish 8/1/2014 The Wharf Orange Beach, AL Phish 8/2/2014 Oak Mountain Amphitheatre Pelham, AL Phish 8/3/2014 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Alpharetta, GA Phish 1/1/2015 American Airlines Arena Miami, FL Phish 1/2/2015 American Airlines Arena Miami, FL Phish 1/3/2015 American Airlines Arena Miami, FL Phish 7/31/2015 Lakewood Atlanta, GA Phish 8/1/2015 Lakewood Atlanta, GA Phish 8/2/2015 Tuscaloosa Amphitheater Tuscaloosa, AL Phish 8/21/2015 Watkins Glen International Watkins Glen, NY Phish 8/22/2015 Watkins Glen International Watkins Glen, NY Phish 8/23/2015 Watkins Glen International Watkins Glen, NY Phish 9/3/16 Dicks Sporting Goods Park Commerce City, CO Phish 9/4/16 Dicks Sporting Goods Park Commerce City, CO Phish 10/16/16 Jacksonville Memorial Arena Jacksonville, FL Phish 10/21/16 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Alpharetta, GA Phish 10/22/16 Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Alpharetta, GA
Umphrey's McGee 5/2/2003 Orpheum Theater New Orleans, LA Umphrey's McGee 6/5/2009 Spirit of Suwanee Music Park Live Oak, FL Umphrey's McGee 2/6/2010 Tabernacle Atlanta, GA Umphrey's McGee 5/20/2011 The Hangout Gulf Shores, AL Umphrey's McGee 5/18/2012 The Hangout Gulf Shores, AL Umphrey's McGee 12/29/2012 Tabernacle Atlanta, GA Umphrey's McGee 12/30/2012 Tabernacle Atlanta, GA Umphrey's McGee 12/31/2012 Tabernacle Atlanta, GA Umphrey's McGee 5/16/2013 The Hangout Gulf Shores, AL Umphrey's McGee 4/16/2014 Saenger Theatre Mobile, AL Umphrey's McGee 4/17/2014 Civic Theatre New Orleans, LA Umphrey's McGee 6/13/2014 Great Stage Park Manchester, TN Umphrey's McGee 4/14/2016 Joy Theatre New Orleans, LA
Widespread Panic 5/1/2001 Garrett Coliseum Montgomery, AL Widespread Panic 12/31/2001 Philips Arena Atlanta, GA Widespread Panic 12/30/2002 Philips Arena Atlanta, GA Widespread Panic 12/31/2002 Philips Arena Atlanta, GA Widespread Panic 6/14/2003 Great Stage Park Manchester, TN Widespread Panic 12/30/2003 Philips Arena Atlanta, GA Widespread Panic 12/31/2003 Philips Arena Atlanta, GA Widespread Panic 4/18/2008 The Wharf Orange Beach, AL Widespread Panic 4/20/2008 The Wharf Orange Beach, AL Widespread Panic 10/31/2008 Lakefront Arena New Orleans, LA Widespread Panic 11/1/2008 Lakefront Arena New Orleans, LA Widespread Panic 4/17/2009 The Wharf Orange Beach, AL Widespread Panic 4/18/2009 The Wharf Mobile, AL Widespread Panic 10/10/2009 BJCC Arena Birmingham, AL Widespread Panic 5/20/2011 The Hangout Gulf Shores, AL Widespread Panic 10/2/2011 Mississippi Coast Coliseum Biloxi, MS
also there are literally only 4 decent jambands, so we don't have a ton of options for quality bookings.
Fair point. I've been told before that I can't get the real Phish experience without seeing multiple nights of a same town run.
No, but your logic is ridiculous. Just admit that you don't like jam bands and would rather go to shitty DJs, thus validating Bonnaroo's shitty change in booking direction.
I hate most DJs, but you keep getting funnier with every post. Please tell me more about the superior nature of guitars. I'm very interested.
i never brought up the "superior nature of guitar" but that comment seems a little derisive to me. But from my understanding, you hate most DJs, and you make fun of guitars...seems to cover the vast majority of modern day music. Not sure how someone who hates DJs and guitars spends their Tuesday mornings in 2017 on a music themed message board...
I hate most DJs, but you keep getting funnier with every post. Please tell me more about the superior nature of guitars. I'm very interested.
i never brought up the "superior nature of guitar" but that comment seems a little derisive to me. But from my understanding, you hate most DJs, and you make fun of guitars...seems to cover the vast majority of modern day music. Not sure how someone who hates DJs and guitars spends their Tuesday mornings in 2017 on a music themed message board...
Oh yeah, I hate guitars. I think they should all BURN.
i never brought up the "superior nature of guitar" but that comment seems a little derisive to me. But from my understanding, you hate most DJs, and you make fun of guitars...seems to cover the vast majority of modern day music. Not sure how someone who hates DJs and guitars spends their Tuesday mornings in 2017 on a music themed message board...
Oh yeah, I hate guitars. I think they should all BURN.
i never brought up the "superior nature of guitar" but that comment seems a little derisive to me. But from my understanding, you hate most DJs, and you make fun of guitars...seems to cover the vast majority of modern day music. Not sure how someone who hates DJs and guitars spends their Tuesday mornings in 2017 on a music themed message board...
Oh yeah, I hate guitars. I think they should all BURN.
Take a breather, find some inspiration. You seem mad. You mad?
Eh, I'm happy (of course). They won't get me to roo by themselves, but its a step in the right direction. I really dont understand the logic of not wanting them there just because they have played a bunch. I understand if you just don't like them (totally understandable), but for people who do, they are one of the better options in my opinion.
I think it is more that they used them for a clue to try to entice people to go/ get excited for Bonnaroo. Are they a bad booking? Not necessarily. Is it who you want the roo clue to be to get excited? Not so much.
Is it who you want the roo clue to be to get excited? Not so much.
Depends on who they mean the clues to excite. The folks on Bonnaroo's Facebook page are acting like Jesus has come back.
I'd agree that Umphrey's are actually probably the best clue they've done for their sake. The people who like the EDM they've been doing are most likely not the people who care about the Roo Clues. Jambands, Hip-hop, and Indie rock are what I'd guess are most likely to excite people before the lineup. And good electronic stuff.
UM are a talented band who put on a fun show. Seen them a few times and would see them again barring a major conflict. Their '12 LN marathon sunrise set was pretty amazing.
Solid undercard act who deserves to be on the lineup.
But a band that's going to entice me to buy a ticket? Not so much.
They play often and do have a dedicated fan base, but why would that fan base travel to Bonnaroo when they could catch them at a more jam centric fest?
It seems like last year where they have a token band or two from a certain genre and expect that to drive ticket sales.
I just hope they give UM a late night again. Their last appearance on the What stage was good, but it was too truncated IMO. I'd like to see a LN set, with some guests possibly coming out with them.
Is it who you want the roo clue to be to get excited? Not so much.
Depends on who they mean the clues to excite. The folks on Bonnaroo's Facebook page are acting like Jesus has come back.
The Roo Clue master plan is to drop the trash edm early to make the clues on the backend seem like gold. I can't imagine people would be as excited about Umphrey's if they had led with them.
Depends on who they mean the clues to excite. The folks on Bonnaroo's Facebook page are acting like Jesus has come back.
The Roo Clue master plan is to drop the trash edm early to make the clues on the backend seem like gold. I can't imagine people would be as excited about Umphrey's if they had led with them.
I'd agree with this. I'm really excited about Umphrey's, probably more so because of how they compare to the previous EDM clues.