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Damn, I wanted to use my 420 post outside of Mafia, but it has gotten too interesting and we are too close at this point. By the way SFA, if we go 2 for 2 together, you owe me a beer since last game you said this method would never work and that all I was doing was letting the mafia hide. If you are mafia, I will buy you a beer for a game well played. Also, you owe me a beer for civility ending before round 1 was up. Mafia get agitated when they are about to die.
Sure, I'll get you a beer. I'm not sure what method you are talking about? What I said would help the mafia last game would have helped the mafia. You going after three innocent people inthe first round. That was what I was referring to.
More then likely it was mafia trying to protect Roonectar.
At this point, I feel pretty comfortable with you, RDK, and to a certain extent, SFA. After that, it is a jump ball, and we only have 4 eliminations to catch 5 people.
Wait, how do you feel comfortable with RDK but not me? How does that work?
I do feel comfortable with you. Just trying to draw people out and I think we did a bit.
I support killing either CMP or CST. A run-off between them would work very well. Chances are we are going to have to kill an innocent or two now to win this.
You better not get yourself killed, you obviously know something...
Hahaha. No, I just almost put my foot in my mouth. RDK did say a few things that could have possible been used against him. That was all I was going to say then I figured I shouldn't until the whack.
Post by CMPMGCTRCKS on Mar 29, 2012 22:20:36 GMT -5
I'm not gonna spend a ton of time defending myself this round. I said my piece last round, and you can and should read my posts throughout this game.
But, I'm used to falling on deaf ears this game, (or at least being drowned out by mafia) so I fully expect to be in the run-off. Please though, let's at least make it a run-off, 'cause I really don't think any of you can really find anything that should have you so suspicious of me. I've taken responsibility for my wrong feeling on defending EAP, and please let me know if there's anything else I can try and clear up.
So what are you thinking? Who do you want to see voted off?
I need to read the second round a little more but I want to make sure we have the people with the most evidence stacked against them.
I'm sort of the same about Roonectar. That's what's hard with quite players. You can't go back and read to catch them in lies, etc. I said him and CMP were the most likly based on votes and the evidence I could find about CST and Duddits.
Right now my list is (To be voted off in that order) CMP CST Nik duddits.
But I think all of us working to geather can make the best educated guess because we defo need to nail at least one before round 5.
Also, I'm going to be out of town all weekend. I'll try to say what I have to say tonight. I won't be around until Sunday and if the round were to close early I'm pretty sure I'll be whacked since I'm the only cleared player.
Last Edit: Mar 29, 2012 22:24:46 GMT -5 by Deleted - Back to Top
I'm not gonna spend a ton of time defending myself this round. I said my piece last round, and you can and should read my posts throughout this game.
But, I'm used to falling on deaf ears this game, (or at least being drowned out by mafia) so I fully expect to be in the run-off. Please though, let's at least make it a run-off, 'cause I really don't think any of you can really find anything that should have you so suspicious of me. I've taken responsibility for my wrong feeling on defending EAP, and please let me know if there's anything else I can try and clear up.
I'm going to read your post very carefully and respond to your response to me. I'm not deadset on you. Just understand that the vote tallie puts you in a tight spot. You didn't really do much of anything that I didn't as far as standing up for EAP.
I'm thinking RDK was honest when he claimed Inspector, which means SFA has been cleared. Only other way that could have panned out is if Sarah or EAP was Inspector, and RDK took a chance as Mafia and claimed fake Inspector. There's really a slim to no chance at all that the last round would have played out if the real Inspector was still alive when RDK made the claim. They would have stepped forward (I hope) and contested RDK's claim. So I am moving forward with the assumptions that RDK was Inspector, EAP was Mafia, and SFA has been cleared as a Townie.
That being said, I'm also not sold 100% on Roonectar as Mafia (more like 80% sure he was). What leads me to believe that he in fact was Mafia was his hesitance to vote early in the runoff, and the fact that he didn't vote for me (not only his opponent in the runoff, but also one of the first to vote him into a runoff) until someone else called him out on it that the Mafia were coaching him to not vote for me.
These are my thoughts, not my vote (just yet), for the sake of Phi's sanity I'm gonna try to limit the amount of times I vote this round.
Nic - for the life of me always seems to slip my thoughts. Honestly could be Mafia, but I wouldn't be suprised if he's a Townie. He's a very neutral player right now. Only thing that really concerns me is that since Day 1 I haven't been thinking about him at all really (dangerous if he is Mafia).
CMP - last round he was scrutinized more than Nic, and he did defend himself against his accusers. I have a hard time believing both (Nic and CMP) would be Mafia side by side this game, but as we all know anything is possible in this game.
Bacon - has posted less, has tried to take less of a controlling stance in the game. He is either a Townie (my opinion at this time) or the most manipulative, twisted Mafia ever. I originally was thinking that if Bacon was Mafia, so was RDK. I just don't see that as a reality anymore.
Viking and CSTNZ - they've both been in a runoff, and they both have been vocal throughout the game, both in Round and in Round 2. If one of the Mafia at this point in the game is going the vocal route my money is on one or the other. I'd say I'm leaning towards CSTNZ based on the same suspicions I had in Round 2 (even though he did counter with some reasoning)
SFA - Cleared by RDK
Duddits - Townie via PM by Phi at the beginning of the game.
Thing is, both Roonectar and CSTNZ got really vocal about Bacon "controlling" the game. When in fact, he was waaaay less controlling (and I'm not talking about his vote change to get SFA to vote out Roonectar, because thats just a weak ass argument) this second round.
Before I start to vote though I would like to give everyone an oppotunity as well to chime in with their thoughts about last round, the whack of RDK as claimed Inspector, etc.
Round 1 final talley Sarah >>> CSTNZ >>> EAPWhacked night one SFA >>> EAP >>> CSTNZ >>> EAP Cleared by the inspector nic >>> viking>>>EAP WLViking >> CSTNZ >>> EAP Baconus66 >>> EAP >>> CSTNZ >>> EAP >>> Null >>> EAPWhacked night three RDK >>> EAP Whacked night two
CSTNZ >>> Viking >>> EAP >>> Viking roonectar>>> CSTNZ >>> vikingVoted off in the second round CMP >>> CSTNZ >>> Vikingvoted off in the third round Duddits >>> EAP >>> Viking EAP>>>>CSTNZ>>>Viking>>>Null >>> Viking >>> Null >>> Viking voted off in the first round
Round 2: Votes right before RDK came out as Inspector Day 2 Votes:
RDK - 4 roonectar - 3 CSTNZ - 1 Bacon - 1
CSTNZ >>> Viking >>> bacon >>> Null >>> RDK Nic >>> CSTNZ >>> RDK CMPMGCTRCKS >>> Bacon >>> Null >>> RDKVoted off in third round SFA >>> RDK Cleared by inspector
SFA and Duddits will you agree to vote CMP this round and CST next round?
I'd like to have some sort of runoff between the two just to get them talking and see were the votes go.
I'm still sort of puzzled by some of the votes people have made when it seems clear we should have been moving in a different direction after RDK came out as inspector.
1.I thought I gave pretty good reason for tagging CSTNZ at this point. He was lobbing around accusations, and roonectar was quick to follow his lead. It was early in the game, and, I felt, a bit suspicious.
Reading back through it I agree to a point. You did give good reasons. I've been mafia and made it to the last round by giving "good reasons" for all the stuff I did.
But now, you just said CZTNZ didn't post much in the first couple of d ] ays...something just doesn't add up for me. EAP, I feel (And that's all I have this early in the game, a feeling) you're being targeted, but I'm not sure if CZTNZ or Viking is responsible. I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm changing my vote to Viking, to try and help you out of this.
CMP>>>CZTNZ>>>Viking
Just look at this. Please. Would I have stuck my neck out this far if I was mafia? These were just my honest feelings at that point. It's come to light that my feelings were wrong, and I apologize, but all I was doing was trying to stop a dog-pile that I hadn't seen a reason for. RDK, you were very subtle the first round, and I just didn't notice anything damning about EAP.
I did simular things to say I didn't think she was quilty. I know how you feel but the thing is at least one mafia member probably tried to stick up for her in some way. Especially that early on. So we have to look at things like that. Besides were your votes tend to land I don't find you that suspicious really. It just is what it is. It could be that Roonectar was mafia and the other mafia is Nik hiding behind his vote on EAP. Heck it could be Viking for all I know and my whole theory of the most suspicious players is wrong.
3. No quote here, 'cause I can't find a single one. When were EAP and I "buddying" up?
I didn't it like both of you were. She brought your post up as a way to say you were one of the only one taking her side at that point. Mafia do that to make you feel you are right about sticking up for them. That's all I meant.
Also, you mentioned somewhere were you felt you were being ignored. I apologize. Looking over the game I've seen were you've have responded to me and I've missed the posts or just got it lost in all the pages. It wasn't on purpose and I'm sure I would be frustrated by that as well.
I'm very willing to change. I assume SFA has some theory about who is mafia coming but ya'll already know mine.
Baconus66>>>CSTNZ
Can you actually explain your theory on why you think I am mafia? Because all you've done so far is adamantly vote for me without any good explanation. I realize I've been vocal all game but so have you, except you've hardly explained anything you've done.
Also that last page... you did that whole "pretending SFA knows something" to "try and get the mafia to whack him" but... it was all WAY too obvious. No mafia would ever fall for that... it was almost like you were doing it for theatrical purposes, just to look like you were trying to save the inspector.
Not much to go on but at this point I am looking for anything that will get people on my side about Bacon because it's starting to get frustrating. I know my innocence and if I'm so suspicious how have I made it through two rounds with just you voting for me , at the end of it? I don't get it, and I really hope you guys don't just listen to him and vote me off next round.
I'm completely OK with taking out CMP now if we can agree to take out CST next round (if there is a next round).
I'll agree on that and third round You can throw me and duddits in runoff.
Unless there would not be a final round since you could both be mafia. While I see this as unlikely, it does concern me.
WLViking >> CSTNZ
I think both EAP and roonectar were mafia. I stuck with my gut on those 2, and I am going to stick with my gut here. Sorry if you are a townie CSTNZ, but too much about this makes sense to me.
Post by CMPMGCTRCKS on Mar 30, 2012 9:51:58 GMT -5
I was asked to work a double today, so I may not be around again until around 9pm (MST). I'm gonna save my vote 'til then.
My last observation before I go though, is that bacon was pretty adamant on not having a run-off last round, and wants the same for the next two rounds? Why not give people a chance to talk? What kind of "leader" throws his people to the wolves? You could have easily hid behind the EAP vote first round, and I don't think you should be cleared of all suspicion yet either...
I'll try to check in before my second shift today, if not though, I look forward to catching up later tonight!!