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Post by questionablesanity on Feb 10, 2010 22:52:31 GMT -5
You def don't speak for me. I like the lineup, don't love it, but there is more than enough to keep me busy and probably enough for multiple conflicts. Banhammer please. At least a LOCK.
A Thieve's Parade 2/24 Conspirator 2/26 Kevin Smith 3/11 Keller 3/17 Papadosio 3/18 JJ Grey 3/25 Bela Fleck/Edgar Meyer 3/26 Toubab Krewe 3/27 O'Death 4/11 Budos Band 4/22 EOTO 4/28 Summer Camp 5/6-29 All Good
You def don't speak for me. I like the lineup, don't love it, but there is more than enough to keep me busy and probably enough for multiple conflicts. Banhammer please. At least a LOCK.
I have read nothing in this thread, but moderators, could you please ban anyone who uses the word "banhammer". And at least suspend the account of anyone who uses "IBTL".
When I say that Superfly has completely dropped the ball this year. Since its creation, Bonnaroo has gained the reputation of being a groundbreaking, bar-setting festival. From Superjam 07 to Radiohead 06 to MMJ 08, everyone has their own favorite memory.
Next time you attempt to speak for me can you at least cite your sources chronologically, you just made me sound like an idiot.
Why didn't he mention Dirty Dozen Brass Band from '02? I've been chasin' that dragon every June since.
You def don't speak for me at all. I don't like the lineup, I FUCKING LOVE IT! Bro, hipster, f*cking dumbas* whatever you want to call me this will be my 3rd roo and I am more excited than ever for this lineup. Manchester Orchestra, DMB, KOL, the D, Phoenix, DR motherf*cking Dog, Chromeo w/ Daryl Hall, JEFF f*cking BECK (are you kidding me), Stevie Wonder. I am freaking the f*ck over what I have seen so far.
I Believe The Lineup
is great so far and I can't wait for the what's to come! F*ck haters. Stay home and leave me more room to enjoy the farm without you!
Post by awolfatthedoor on Feb 10, 2010 23:22:33 GMT -5
This is the 34th time I'll speak to you from the Oval Office and the last. We've been together 8 years now, and soon it'll be time for me to go. But before I do, I wanted to share some thoughts, some of which I've been saving for a long time.
It's been the honor of my life to be your President. So many of you have written the past few weeks to say thanks, but I could say as much to you. Nancy and I are grateful for the opportunity you gave us to serve.
One of the things about the Presidency is that you're always somewhat apart. You spend a lot of time going by too fast in a car someone else is driving, and seeing the people through tinted glass -- the parents holding up a child, and the wave you saw too late and couldn't return. And so many times I wanted to stop and reach out from behind the glass, and connect. Well, maybe I can do a little of that tonight.
People ask how I feel about leaving. And the fact is, ``parting is such sweet sorrow.'' The sweet part is California and the ranch and freedom. The sorrow -- the goodbyes, of course, and leaving this beautiful place.
You know, down the hall and up the stairs from this office is the part of the White House where the President and his family live. There are a few favorite windows I have up there that I like to stand and look out of early in the morning. The view is over the grounds here to the Washington Monument, and then the Mall and the Jefferson Memorial. But on mornings when the humidity is low, you can see past the Jefferson to the river, the Potomac, and the Virginia shore. Someone said that's the view Lincoln had when he saw the smoke rising from the Battle of Bull Run. I see more prosaic things: the grass on the banks, the morning traffic as people make their way to work, now and then a sailboat on the river.
I've been thinking a bit at that window. I've been reflecting on what the past 8 years have meant and mean. And the image that comes to mind like a refrain is a nautical one -- a small story about a big ship, and a refugee, and a sailor. It was back in the early eighties, at the height of the boat people. And the sailor was hard at work on the carrier Midway, which was patrolling the South China Sea. The sailor, like most American servicemen, was young, smart, and fiercely observant. The crew spied on the horizon a leaky little boat. And crammed inside were refugees from Indochina hoping to get to America. The Midway sent a small launch to bring them to the ship and safety. As the refugees made their way through the choppy seas, one spied the sailor on deck, and stood up, and called out to him. He yelled, ``Hello, American sailor. Hello, freedom man.''
A small moment with a big meaning, a moment the sailor, who wrote it in a letter, couldn't get out of his mind. And, when I saw it, neither could I. Because that's what it was to be an American in the 1980's. We stood, again, for freedom. I know we always have, but in the past few years the world again -- and in a way, we ourselves -- rediscovered it.
It's been quite a journey this decade, and we held together through some stormy seas. And at the end, together, we are reaching our destination.
The fact is, from Grenada to the Washington and Moscow summits, from the recession of '81 to '82, to the expansion that began in late '82 and continues to this day, we've made a difference. The way I see it, there were two great triumphs, two things that I'm proudest of. One is the economic recovery, in which the people of America created -- and filled -- 19 million new jobs. The other is the recovery of our morale. America is respected again in the world and looked to for leadership.
Something that happened to me a few years ago reflects some of this. It was back in 1981, and I was attending my first big economic summit, which was held that year in Canada. The meeting place rotates among the member countries. The opening meeting was a formal dinner for the heads of government of the seven industrialized nations. Now, I sat there like the new kid in school and listened, and it was all Francois this and Helmut that. They dropped titles and spoke to one another on a first-name basis. Well, at one point I sort of leaned in and said, ``My name's Ron.'' Well, in that same year, we began the actions we felt would ignite an economic comeback -- cut taxes and regulation, started to cut spending. And soon the recovery began.
Two years later, another economic summit with pretty much the same cast. At the big opening meeting we all got together, and all of a sudden, just for a moment, I saw that everyone was just sitting there looking at me. And then one of them broke the silence. ``Tell us about the American miracle,'' he said.
Well, back in 1980, when I was running for President, it was all so different. Some pundits said our programs would result in catastrophe. Our views on foreign affairs would cause war. Our plans for the economy would cause inflation to soar and bring about economic collapse. I even remember one highly respected economist saying, back in 1982, that ``The engines of economic growth have shut down here, and they're likely to stay that way for years to come.'' Well, he and the other opinion leaders were wrong. The fact is, what they called ``radical'' was really ``right.'' What they called ``dangerous'' was just ``desperately needed.''
And in all of that time I won a nickname, ``The Great Communicator.'' But I never thought it was my style or the words I used that made a difference: it was the content. I wasn't a great communicator, but I communicated great things, and they didn't spring full bloom from my brow, they came from the heart of a great nation -- from our experience, our wisdom, and our belief in the principles that have guided us for two centuries. They called it the Reagan revolution. Well, I'll accept that, but for me it always seemed more like the great rediscovery, a rediscovery of our values and our common sense.
Common sense told us that when you put a big tax on something, the people will produce less of it. So, we cut the people's tax rates, and the people produced more than ever before. The economy bloomed like a plant that had been cut back and could now grow quicker and stronger. Our economic program brought about the longest peacetime expansion in our history: real family income up, the poverty rate down, entrepreneurship booming, and an explosion in research and new technology. We're exporting more than ever because American industry became more competitive and at the same time, we summoned the national will to knock down protectionist walls abroad instead of erecting them at home.
Common sense also told us that to preserve the peace, we'd have to become strong again after years of weakness and confusion. So, we rebuilt our defenses, and this New Year we toasted the new peacefulness around the globe. Not only have the superpowers actually begun to reduce their stockpiles of nuclear weapons -- and hope for even more progress is bright -- but the regional conflicts that rack the globe are also beginning to cease. The Persian Gulf is no longer a war zone. The Soviets are leaving Afghanistan. The Vietnamese are preparing to pull out of Cambodia, and an American-mediated accord will soon send 50,000 Cuban troops home from Angola.
The lesson of all this was, of course, that because we're a great nation, our challenges seem complex. It will always be this way. But as long as we remember our first principles and believe in ourselves, the future will always be ours. And something else we learned: Once you begin a great movement, there's no telling where it will end. We meant to change a nation, and instead, we changed a world.
Countries across the globe are turning to free markets and free speech and turning away from the ideologies of the past. For them, the great rediscovery of the 1980's has been that, lo and behold, the moral way of government is the practical way of government: Democracy, the profoundly good, is also the profoundly productive.
When you've got to the point when you can celebrate the anniversaries of your 39th birthday you can sit back sometimes, review your life, and see it flowing before you. For me there was a fork in the river, and it was right in the middle of my life. I never meant to go into politics. It wasn't my intention when I was young. But I was raised to believe you had to pay your way for the blessings bestowed on you. I was happy with my career in the entertainment world, but I ultimately went into politics because I wanted to protect something precious.
Ours was the first revolution in the history of mankind that truly reversed the course of government, and with three little words: ``We the People.'' ``We the People'' tell the government what to do; it doesn't tell us. ``We the People'' are the driver; the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast. Almost all the world's constitutions are documents in which governments tell the people what their privileges are. Our Constitution is a document in which ``We the People'' tell the government what it is allowed to do. ``We the People'' are free. This belief has been the underlying basis for everything I've tried to do these past 8 years.
But back in the 1960's, when I began, it seemed to me that we'd begun reversing the order of things -- that through more and more rules and regulations and confiscatory taxes, the government was taking more of our money, more of our options, and more of our freedom. I went into politics in part to put up my hand and say, ``Stop.'' I was a citizen politician, and it seemed the right thing for a citizen to do.
I think we have stopped a lot of what needed stopping. And I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There's a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: As government expands, liberty contracts.
Nothing is less free than pure communism -- and yet we have, the past few years, forged a satisfying new closeness with the Soviet Union. I've been asked if this isn't a gamble, and my answer is no because we're basing our actions not on words but deeds. The detente of the 1970's was based not on actions but promises. They'd promise to treat their own people and the people of the world better. But the gulag was still the gulag, and the state was still expansionist, and they still waged proxy wars in Africa, Asia, and Latin America.
Well, this time, so far, it's different. President Gorbachev has brought about some internal democratic reforms and begun the withdrawal from Afghanistan. He has also freed prisoners whose names I've given him every time we've met.
But life has a way of reminding you of big things through small incidents. Once, during the heady days of the Moscow summit, Nancy and I decided to break off from the entourage one afternoon to visit the shops on Arbat Street -- that's a little street just off Moscow's main shopping area. Even though our visit was a surprise, every Russian there immediately recognized us and called out our names and reached for our hands. We were just about swept away by the warmth. You could almost feel the possibilities in all that joy. But within seconds, a KGB detail pushed their way toward us and began pushing and shoving the people in the crowd. It was an interesting moment. It reminded me that while the man on the street in the Soviet Union yearns for peace, the government is Communist. And those who run it are Communists, and that means we and they view such issues as freedom and human rights very differently.
We must keep up our guard, but we must also continue to work together to lessen and eliminate tension and mistrust. My view is that President Gorbachev is different from previous Soviet leaders. I think he knows some of the things wrong with his society and is trying to fix them. We wish him well. And we'll continue to work to make sure that the Soviet Union that eventually emerges from this process is a less threatening one. What it all boils down to is this: I want the new closeness to continue. And it will, as long as we make it clear that we will continue to act in a certain way as long as they continue to act in a helpful manner. If and when they don't, at first pull your punches. If they persist, pull the plug. It's still trust but verify. It's still play, but cut the cards. It's still watch closely. And don't be afraid to see what you see.
I've been asked if I have any regrets. Well, I do. The deficit is one. I've been talking a great deal about that lately, but tonight isn't for arguments, and I'm going to hold my tongue. But an observation: I've had my share of victories in the Congress, but what few people noticed is that I never won anything you didn't win for me. They never saw my troops, they never saw Reagan's regiments, the American people. You won every battle with every call you made and letter you wrote demanding action. Well, action is still needed. If we're to finish the job, Reagan's regiments will have to become the Bush brigades. Soon he'll be the chief, and he'll need you every bit as much as I did.
Finally, there is a great tradition of warnings in Presidential farewells, and I've got one that's been on my mind for some time. But oddly enough it starts with one of the things I'm proudest of in the past 8 years: the resurgence of national pride that I called the new patriotism. This national feeling is good, but it won't count for much, and it won't last unless it's grounded in thoughtfulness and knowledge.
An informed patriotism is what we want. And are we doing a good enough job teaching our children what America is and what she represents in the long history of the world? Those of us who are over 35 or so years of age grew up in a different America. We were taught, very directly, what it means to be an American. And we absorbed, almost in the air, a love of country and an appreciation of its institutions. If you didn't get these things from your family you got them from the neighborhood, from the father down the street who fought in Korea or the family who lost someone at Anzio. Or you could get a sense of patriotism from school. And if all else failed you could get a sense of patriotism from the popular culture. The movies celebrated democratic values and implicitly reinforced the idea that America was special. TV was like that, too, through the mid-sixties.
But now, we're about to enter the nineties, and some things have changed. Younger parents aren't sure that an unambivalent appreciation of America is the right thing to teach modern children. And as for those who create the popular culture, well-grounded patriotism is no longer the style. Our spirit is back, but we haven't reinstitutionalized it. We've got to do a better job of getting across that America is freedom -- freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of enterprise. And freedom is special and rare. It's fragile; it needs production [protection].
So, we've got to teach history based not on what's in fashion but what's important -- why the Pilgrims came here, who Jimmy Doolittle was, and what those 30 seconds over Tokyo meant. You know, 4 years ago on the 40th anniversary of D - day, I read a letter from a young woman writing to her late father, who'd fought on Omaha Beach. Her name was Lisa Zanatta Henn, and she said, ``we will always remember, we will never forget what the boys of Normandy did.'' Well, let's help her keep her word. If we forget what we did, we won't know who we are. I'm warning of an eradication of the American memory that could result, ultimately, in an erosion of the American spirit. Let's start with some basics: more attention to American history and a greater emphasis on civic ritual.
And let me offer lesson number one about America: All great change in America begins at the dinner table. So, tomorrow night in the kitchen I hope the talking begins. And children, if your parents haven't been teaching you what it means to be an American, let 'em know and nail 'em on it. That would be a very American thing to do.
And that's about all I have to say tonight, except for one thing. The past few days when I've been at that window upstairs, I've thought a bit of the ``shining city upon a hill.'' The phrase comes from John Winthrop, who wrote it to describe the America he imagined. What he imagined was important because he was an early Pilgrim, an early freedom man. He journeyed here on what today we'd call a little wooden boat; and like the other Pilgrims, he was looking for a home that would be free.
I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.
And how stands the city on this winter night? More prosperous, more secure, and happier than it was 8 years ago. But more than that: After 200 years, two centuries, she still stands strong and true on the granite ridge, and her glow has held steady no matter what storm. And she's still a beacon, still a magnet for all who must have freedom, for all the pilgrims from all the lost places who are hurtling through the darkness, toward home.
We've done our part. And as I walk off into the city streets, a final word to the men and women of the Reagan revolution, the men and women across America who for 8 years did the work that brought America back. My friends: We did it. We weren't just marking time. We made a difference. We made the city stronger, we made the city freer, and we left her in good hands. All in all, not bad, not bad at all.
And so, goodbye, God bless you, and God bless the United States of America.
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar, " every "supreme leader, " every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there-on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.
Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe:, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.
The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.
It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.
Post by summerteeth99 on Feb 10, 2010 23:28:31 GMT -5
Agree wholeheartedly with the OP. The reason he is catching flak from all of you is because he had the audacity and balls to actually say it. The reason everyone is saying, "hey pal, you don't SPEAK for ME, how dare you blah blah" is akin to defending your favorite pop band in middle school when the heady kids on the school bus are making fun of your Under the Table and Dreaming cd in your discman. "hey guys, leave me alone, i like it OK" (even though you are slightly embarrassed to have it, even if you know nothing technically about the band's music or how it came to be, etc.)
Also akin to reading a few bad reviews for a record you just bought. You'll say, "what do those critics KNOW anyhow...they are wrong about this, so they must be wrong about all the crap i buy". Um....no. They are actually spot on most of the time and its your taste that sucks. No one can ever come to this realization. Truth hurts too much. So just defend away fools. Yeah, the OP didn't say something "constructive" nor was he "filled with love and positivity" in his post. OH MY! Him calling it a "bro fest" wasn't a bad stereotype but rather the sad truth.
You folks are in other threads bashing the lineup, but have to stop here to tell this guy he doesn't speak for you. Ok tough guys. We get it.
I've been thinking a bit at that window. I've been reflecting on what the past 8 years have meant and mean. And the image that comes to mind like a refrain is a nautical one -- a small story about a big ship, and a refugee, and a sailor. It was back in the early eighties, at the height of the boat people. And the sailor was hard at work on the carrier Midway, which was patrolling the South China Sea. The sailor, like most American servicemen, was young, smart, and fiercely observant. The crew spied on the horizon a leaky little boat. And crammed inside were refugees from Indochina hoping to get to America. The Midway sent a small launch to bring them to the ship and safety. As the refugees made their way through the choppy seas, one spied the sailor on deck, and stood up, and called out to him. He yelled, ``Hello, American sailor. Hello, freedom man.''.
The next day he was sent back to Cuba, and a few days later he and his entire family were executed.
5 posts and joined in 2010 and you speak for me? You speak for yourself and one's own opinion means something to only one person, the person stating it. If you don't like the lineup, go to another fest. They will never and I repeat never, please everyone all the time. That's just the fact Jack!
Post by tobiasfunke on Feb 11, 2010 1:11:38 GMT -5
I am so sick of these threads. Just make one thread called PISSIN IN SOME CHEERIOS and list all the complaints there, and if you are going to complain, at least say so in the thread title so that I don't come in for the sake of curiosity, only to read the same whiny b.ullshit I've been reading for the past 24 hours. Save the personal complaints for your facebook status.
Agree wholeheartedly with the OP. The reason he is catching flak from all of you is because he had the audacity and balls to actually say it. The reason everyone is saying, "hey pal, you don't SPEAK for ME, how dare you blah blah" is akin to defending your favorite pop band in middle school when the heady kids on the school bus are making fun of your Under the Table and Dreaming cd in your discman. "hey guys, leave me alone, i like it OK" (even though you are slightly embarrassed to have it, even if you know nothing technically about the band's music or how it came to be, etc.
Also akin to reading a few bad reviews for a record you just bought. You'll say, "what do those critics KNOW anyhow...they are wrong about this, so they must be wrong about all the crap i buy". Um....no. They are actually spot on most of the time and its your taste that sucks. No one can ever come to this realization. Truth hurts too much. So just defend away fools. Yeah, the OP didn't say something "constructive" nor was he "filled with love and positivity" in his post. OH MY! Him calling it a "bro fest" wasn't a bad stereotype but rather the sad truth.
You folks are in other threads bashing the lineup, but have to stop here to tell this guy he doesn't speak for you. Ok tough guys. We get it.
^ This is absolutely ludicrous!
I can't believe that you are THAT self-absorbed that you actually think this way. I feel so sorry for you. You know NOTHING about me, and you know NOTHING about anyone else on this board. All you know is YOU. Stop trying to push your ideas on us and telling us what IS and IS NOT "cool."
I can't believe what I'm reading. You should be embarrassed. Truly.
Post by summerteeth99 on Feb 11, 2010 2:53:11 GMT -5
Ok Phishtick...enlighten me. What is great about this lineup? What are you looking forward to? I've got on multiple threads and mentioned Phish as a return appearance this year since they most likely will tour this summer. I don't see anyone even mentioning them, which i find odd.
What did i inaccurately state about how people defend their taste in music when confronted with a statement like the OP? Sure he was a bit harsh and it was a blanket statement...but where did i error in explaining how people deal with criticism of what they like from casual fans or critics? It is completely the way i explained it. Go ahead and lie to me right now and tell me that people that are posting, "you don't speak for me a-hole" aren't the same ppl complaining about the lineup in other threads?
Sorry for me? I feel sorry for you. You WANT to be ignorant in order to defend something indefensible. that's not being positive or noble bro.
Post by pondo ROCKS on Feb 11, 2010 5:04:15 GMT -5
Since TWO count them TWO music festivals were canned this year, I look at this in a very different way. I like the lineup but i love Bonnaroo. Not thrilled about KOL but again, I love Bonnaroo. Never had one single bad time at Bonnaroo. There are too many good acts listed on the lineup plus I did a poll up here earlier that asked the question: Do you go for the headliners or the undercard? Needless to say undercard won by quite a bit. I love Bonnaroo and all the acts they choose to bring in. Some may not be my cup of tea I still love bonnaroo.
The only complaint i have is that the "surprise' factor kept being thrown around the net the day of the lineup, when the only huge surprise for me was Tori Amos. I still like the lineup, I still love Bonnaroo. I have not been in other threads "bashing the lineup" as some dweller above said. I may not be as thrilled about seeing some of the bands as others are or are'nt but again, I love Bonnaroo!
TWO festivals went wayside this year. You may not be jumping up and down about the lineup but seriously....
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Ok Phishtick...enlighten me. What is great about this lineup? What are you looking forward to? I've got on multiple threads and mentioned Phish as a return appearance this year since they most likely will tour this summer. I don't see anyone even mentioning them, which i find odd.
What did i inaccurately state about how people defend their taste in music when confronted with a statement like the OP? Sure he was a bit harsh and it was a blanket statement...but where did i error in explaining how people deal with criticism of what they like from casual fans or critics? It is completely the way i explained it. Go ahead and lie to me right now and tell me that people that are posting, "you don't speak for me a-hole" aren't the same ppl complaining about the lineup in other threads?
Sorry for me? I feel sorry for you. You WANT to be ignorant in order to defend something indefensible. that's not being positive or noble bro.
Not lying to you...find one place where I bashed the lineup...go ahead and lokk...I'll wait.
Still waiting.....
still waiting....
Did'nt find it did ya? I can name over 20 acts that I would like or even love to see! at 15 dollars an act that comes out to 300 dollars, more than the ticket.
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My only problem with this post is the title (which has been well critiqued already). I think the people who do like the lineup need to recognize that there are a lot of frustrated people out there, but the frustrated people should recognize that if a lineup for a music festival is causing this much consternation, that we all live pretty charmed lives.
That said, I get why people are so upset. This is my 5th roo, and the first time I have been disappointed by the initial lineup announcement. Most of my frustration lies at the top of the bill and the fact that KOL will be uncontested-- something that just shouldn't happen. Also, I don't see how Stevie gets a larger draw then some of the older legends that have played late afternoon on the what stage in years past (e.g., Al Green or Elvis Costello), especially after most of Bonnaroo's demographic grew up with "I just called to say I love you" instead of "superstitious." Compounding this frustration, is feeling like we got hosed by the day long announcement which ended with Wonder, instead of a big pay off like Waters.
Still, I do think there is a fix. I think if Superfly adds the following the haters will turn to lovers:
1 true headliner: like Coachella did with Prince, we need a knight to swoop in and save the top of the lineup. I don't care if it is a coachella retread (or even a roo retread). Names that can do this--> Waters, Prince, Sir Paul, Stones, U2 (though I hope not), Clapton, etc.
2 or 3 subheadliners that could beef up the undercard: Furthur (who really could headline sunday), MMJ, Arcade Fire (I know, not happening), etc.
3 to 5 3rd line or lower bands that the indie kids like: Hot Chip, Passion Pit, New Pornographers come to mind.
One last note-- I wish the people who do like the lineup, and who call people who don't "haters" would chill a bit. This board is a place to post your feelings and thoughts on Roo-- whatever they are. By turning this into a bickering match, it is just adding to people's frustrations. I get incredibly annoyed when people carry on page long conversions in the "confirmed artists section" before the lineup, and then trash lurkers who post their thoughts for having only a few posts. It is unfair to people who only posts when they have something thoughtful to share to be punished for not have 500 posts that are about nothing or are off-topic. That is not a shot at anyone in particular, I am just asking that people be given a forum, this message board, to air their grievances.
Still, I agree, you should have had a better title for your post.
Post by CensoredColors on Feb 11, 2010 9:44:07 GMT -5
Oh boo hoo, my favorite bands aren't there so i have to talk shit. I actually like the lineup. To be 100% honest, other than the possible addidtion of 3 or 4 more artists, I think this is waaaaayyy better than last year. If you don't like the artists performing, don't go. we won't be missing your negative attidtude. please take your negativity elsewhere, because you're seriously harshing my mellow, brah
The fact that we are allowed to complain is great. That means we are free to think how we want. You should always think for yourself. Not just say it's bonnaroo I don't care because the experience is what it's about. I can go to local camping festivals for $75.00 and don't have to buy food or beer which makes it lots cheaper for the experience. Just saying.