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I know. I was saying both of them together have built them up to where they appear to be legitimate guys who know what they are doing. It doesn't directly translate, but you would assume people organized enough to do that would have at least fit some time in for target practice.
I get that, but at the same time I think there have been enough scenes showing that these guys aren't hardcore professional. Talking about the train heist in a public place with the methylamine out in plain sight, Uncle Jack wiping the blood off his boots in the restaurant bathroom, refusing to wear the masks at the beginning of last night's episode when Todd is testing the purity, etc. There's certainly a sense of arrogance and sloppiness to the point where I don't think it's that unbelievable they wouldn't care enough to be excellent marksmen.
That's a fair point. That arrogance is also the reason I gave thought to the idea of them aiming for the vehicle or just firing to hold Hank and Gomez down. They have came off as cocky enough that they would think it's an appropriate option to not kill two trained DEA agents as fast as they could.
I think this is another episode where the ending kind of made you forget about the rest of the episode. That is the only reason possible as to why more people are not talking about Huell being hilarious in his scene with Hank.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Sept 9, 2013 16:10:02 GMT -5
Details and photos of the Blu Ray Special Edition of the entire series. Costs $225 if you pre-order it now (which breaks down to about $45 a season):
Nevermind how consistently ‘Breaking Bad‘ has been sending our jaws to the floor with each subsequent episode of the final run, its upcoming complete series Blu-ray release already has us speeding to the store. The full release of AMC’s epic masterpiece series will arrive on November 26 with ‘Breaking Bad’ barrel packaging, an alternate ending for the series finale, multiple documentaries and more!
Sources say of the ‘Breaking Bad’ 16-disc complete series release that the 55+ hours of special features will include a never-before-seen two-hour documentary spanning the entire production of the final season, a three-minute alternate ending differing from what will ultimately air on AMC, a full gag reel, commentary on every episode, along with the expected deleted and extended scenes.
But that’s not all! Adding to the inventive money (or body) barrel packaging, the ‘Breaking Bad’ complete series release will include a 16-page booklet with a letter penned by series creator Vince Gilligan, a commemorative challenge coin designed by Gilligan and an apron from Gus Fring’s infamous “Los Pollos Hermanos” restaurant. All in all, the full outline of special features from various releases follows below:
“Breaking Bad: The Complete Series” Barrel Set Special Features Include:
- No Half Measures: Creating the Final Season of Breaking Bad – An all-new, exclusive two hour documentary that chronicles the filming of the final eight episodes.
Additional bonus features include all previously released featurettes and retail exclusives:
- Bad Memories – Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul talk about the show ending and some of their favorite moments. - Bryan Cranston: Director – Go on set with Bryan Cranston as he directs the first episode of the season entitled “Blood Money.” - Scene Envy – The Cast tell us which scene they wish they could have been in. - Shocking Moments – The stars reveal the moments that shocked them most. - From Walt to Heisenberg – From high school teacher to deadly meth dealer, watch as Walter White quickly transforms into Heisenberg. - How Will It End? – At the beginning of the season, the cast was asked to give their thoughts on how they thought the show would end. - Avenging Agent: Dean Norris as Hank Schrader — A look at the character Hank Schrader and the man who played him, Dean Norris. - Scene Stealer: Betsy Brandt as Marie Schrader – A look at the character Marie Schrader and the woman who plays her, Betsy Brandt. - A Criminal Attorney: Bob Odenkirk as Saul Goodman –A look at the character Saul Goodman and the man who played him, Bob Odenkirk. - Jesse’s Journey: Aaron Paul as Jesse Pinkman – A look at the character Jesse Pinkman and the man who played him, Aaron Paul. - Skyler Breaks Bad: Anna Gunn on Season Four – Actress Anna Gunn and series creator Vince Gilligan explore Skyler’s character evolution through the fourth season. - Growing Up in the White House: RJ Mitte on Walter, Jr. – RJ Mitte, Anna Gunn, Bryan Cranston and series creator Vince Gilligan discuss the extraordinary dynamics of the White family, and Walter, Jr.’s unique role. - The Ultimate Chess Match – Members of the cast and crew discuss Walter White and Gus Fring’s extraordinary and complicated battle of wits and their struggle for Jesse’s allegiance. - Looking Back: A Season Four Retrospective – Season Four’s most surprising and memorable moments. - Ted’s Wipeout – In Episode 411, “Crawl Space,” Ted Beneke suffers a head injury while trying to escape from Saul’s goons. In this featurette, Christopher Cousins (Ted) explains how this shocking stunt was accomplished. - The Truck Attack Storyboard Comparison – A side-by-side comparison of the Los Pollos Hermanos truck attack and the brilliant shot-by-shot storyboards that were created for the episode “Bullet Points.” - Walt and the Challenger Storyboard Comparison – A side-by-side comparison of the sequence where Walt indulges in some crazy stunt driving in Walt Jr.’s Dodge Challenger and the storyboards that were created.
In addition to releasing the complete set on Blu-ray, SPHE will release “Breaking Bad: The Final Season” on both Blu-ray and DVD with UltraViolet™ on Nov. 26. The final season includes the series’ final eight episodes and is loaded with special features, including all-new featurettes, cast and crew commentaries, deleted scenes and more. Episodes include: Blood Money, Buried, Confessions, Rabid Dog, To’hajiilee, Ozymandias, Granite State and Felina.
“Breaking Bad: The Final Season” Blu-ray Includes: - “Blood Money” Table Read – A rare look at the only final season Breaking Bad table read.
“Breaking Bad: The Final Season” Blu-ray & DVD Include: - Cast and Crew Commentaries on Every Episode - 4 Featurettes –The Main Event –The Final Showdown –Life of a Show Runner –Behind-the-Scenes of the Alternate Ending - Alternate Ending – A 3-minute alternate version of how Breaking Bad could have ended. - Deleted & Extended Scenes - Gag Reel - Walt’s Confession - The Layers of a Sound Mix - Over 15 Episodes of Inside Breaking Bad - Uncensored and Extended Episodes
Details and photos of the Blu Ray Special Edition of the entire series. Costs $225 if you pre-order it now (which breaks down to about $45 a season):
Nevermind how consistently ‘Breaking Bad‘ has been sending our jaws to the floor with each subsequent episode of the final run, its upcoming complete series Blu-ray release already has us speeding to the store. The full release of AMC’s epic masterpiece series will arrive on November 26 with ‘Breaking Bad’ barrel packaging, an alternate ending for the series finale, multiple documentaries and more!
Sources say of the ‘Breaking Bad’ 16-disc complete series release that the 55+ hours of special features will include a never-before-seen two-hour documentary spanning the entire production of the final season, a three-minute alternate ending differing from what will ultimately air on AMC, a full gag reel, commentary on every episode, along with the expected deleted and extended scenes.
But that’s not all! Adding to the inventive money (or body) barrel packaging, the ‘Breaking Bad’ complete series release will include a 16-page booklet with a letter penned by series creator Vince Gilligan, a commemorative challenge coin designed by Gilligan and an apron from Gus Fring’s infamous “Los Pollos Hermanos” restaurant. All in all, the full outline of special features from various releases follows below:
“Breaking Bad: The Complete Series” Barrel Set Special Features Include:
- No Half Measures: Creating the Final Season of Breaking Bad – An all-new, exclusive two hour documentary that chronicles the filming of the final eight episodes.
Additional bonus features include all previously released featurettes and retail exclusives:
- Bad Memories – Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul talk about the show ending and some of their favorite moments. - Bryan Cranston: Director – Go on set with Bryan Cranston as he directs the first episode of the season entitled “Blood Money.” - Scene Envy – The Cast tell us which scene they wish they could have been in. - Shocking Moments – The stars reveal the moments that shocked them most. - From Walt to Heisenberg – From high school teacher to deadly meth dealer, watch as Walter White quickly transforms into Heisenberg. - How Will It End? – At the beginning of the season, the cast was asked to give their thoughts on how they thought the show would end. - Avenging Agent: Dean Norris as Hank Schrader — A look at the character Hank Schrader and the man who played him, Dean Norris. - Scene Stealer: Betsy Brandt as Marie Schrader – A look at the character Marie Schrader and the woman who plays her, Betsy Brandt. - A Criminal Attorney: Bob Odenkirk as Saul Goodman –A look at the character Saul Goodman and the man who played him, Bob Odenkirk. - Jesse’s Journey: Aaron Paul as Jesse Pinkman – A look at the character Jesse Pinkman and the man who played him, Aaron Paul. - Skyler Breaks Bad: Anna Gunn on Season Four – Actress Anna Gunn and series creator Vince Gilligan explore Skyler’s character evolution through the fourth season. - Growing Up in the White House: RJ Mitte on Walter, Jr. – RJ Mitte, Anna Gunn, Bryan Cranston and series creator Vince Gilligan discuss the extraordinary dynamics of the White family, and Walter, Jr.’s unique role. - The Ultimate Chess Match – Members of the cast and crew discuss Walter White and Gus Fring’s extraordinary and complicated battle of wits and their struggle for Jesse’s allegiance. - Looking Back: A Season Four Retrospective – Season Four’s most surprising and memorable moments. - Ted’s Wipeout – In Episode 411, “Crawl Space,” Ted Beneke suffers a head injury while trying to escape from Saul’s goons. In this featurette, Christopher Cousins (Ted) explains how this shocking stunt was accomplished. - The Truck Attack Storyboard Comparison – A side-by-side comparison of the Los Pollos Hermanos truck attack and the brilliant shot-by-shot storyboards that were created for the episode “Bullet Points.” - Walt and the Challenger Storyboard Comparison – A side-by-side comparison of the sequence where Walt indulges in some crazy stunt driving in Walt Jr.’s Dodge Challenger and the storyboards that were created.
In addition to releasing the complete set on Blu-ray, SPHE will release “Breaking Bad: The Final Season” on both Blu-ray and DVD with UltraViolet™ on Nov. 26. The final season includes the series’ final eight episodes and is loaded with special features, including all-new featurettes, cast and crew commentaries, deleted scenes and more. Episodes include: Blood Money, Buried, Confessions, Rabid Dog, To’hajiilee, Ozymandias, Granite State and Felina.
“Breaking Bad: The Final Season” Blu-ray Includes: - “Blood Money” Table Read – A rare look at the only final season Breaking Bad table read.
“Breaking Bad: The Final Season” Blu-ray & DVD Include: - Cast and Crew Commentaries on Every Episode - 4 Featurettes –The Main Event –The Final Showdown –Life of a Show Runner –Behind-the-Scenes of the Alternate Ending - Alternate Ending – A 3-minute alternate version of how Breaking Bad could have ended. - Deleted & Extended Scenes - Gag Reel - Walt’s Confession - The Layers of a Sound Mix - Over 15 Episodes of Inside Breaking Bad - Uncensored and Extended Episodes
Another reason to think they may have been missing on accident. First Todd was all like this,
Then he was like this,
The other guys are kind of wild cards, but Todd has shown that he can shoot with a handgun in the past. He goes from going center mass on a quick shot to looking like an idiot not even trying.
When I watched the episode last night I was like 95% certain Gomez got hit. It looked like he was bloody at one point and winced while leaning up against the truck. I just realized I don't think I've seen anyone mention it on here or in any of the reviews I've read. Did I just flat out imagine that? I've only seen the scene once.
When I watched the episode last night I was like 95% certain Gomez got hit. It looked like he was bloody at one point and winced while leaning up against the truck. I just realized I don't think I've seen anyone mention it on here or in any of the reviews I've read. Did I just flat out imagine that? I've only seen the scene once.
When I watched the episode last night I was like 95% certain Gomez got hit. It looked like he was bloody at one point and winced while leaning up against the truck. I just realized I don't think I've seen anyone mention it on here or in any of the reviews I've read. Did I just flat out imagine that? I've only seen the scene once.
I had noticed it but wasn't going to say anything about it until I watched again. In addition to Bacon's comment, I want to say cks said that people on reddit had confirmed that he didn't get hit.
I finally watched it last night, a couple of comments:
- Gomez has blood on his shirt when he takes cover behind the SUV. He's shot, so once that's revealed (I assume in the first 10 seconds of the next episode) this "poor shot" stuff goes out the window. Using the photo that ITM posted, Gomez and Hank were standing between the two cars, which is pretty much provides full coverage once you duck down. The show shooting Hank/Gomez from the side makes it look like they're wide open, when in reality the cars are overlapping with them in the middle. A well placed shot right off the bat could've taken them out (and I firmly believe that someone hit Gomez), but after that you're shooting through the car to get to them. Ducking and running low to the SUV isn't unrealistic. - I'm sorry, but what sense would there be in just shooting cars? Disabling them? Two federal agents just got a good look at the Nazi's cars and their faces, but yeah, those criminal mass-murderers are just going to disable the cars and leave the DEA guys alone? Come. On. People. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if they had an internal plan to kill Walt & whoever else was there and take Jesse to be a slave cook or something (since he's perceived to be weaker and Walt is only giving them 1 cook), but the idea that they were just going to roll up there, unload extended magazines into a DEA SUV and then pop Jesse before leaving the others alive? That makes little sense. - The "drive the SUV away" theory is the unquestioned worst part of everything in this thread since Sunday. That car is literally exploding with gunfire, who the hell is driving that thing away? And Walt isn't important to those guys once they realize they have the other cook in their grasp. Walt becomes *gasp* expendable at that point. They're no longer about murder-for-hire business, they're about getting the cook down so they can rake money hand-over-fist. The truth is that we don't know what the Nazi's angle is, but we know for damn sure that they aren't bending the knee to Walt (I crossed nerd streams). Walt needs them at this point just as much as they need him, and Jesse offers them another option, giving them more leverage against Walt. I realize this is all happening during a gunfight, but they showed Jack looking back and forth between Jesse and Walt for a solid 3-5 seconds, they wouldn't do that without it being important in some way.
My (likely to be wrong) prediction:
Walt comes to Hank's aid and kills one (or more) of the Nazi's, making him enemy #1 to them. Jesse runs away into the desert and gets picked up by the Nazi's who track him down and force him to mentor Todd. Gomez is dead. Walt escapes and begins his life on the lam.
The only part of that I actually think will happen is Gomez dying.
I finally watched it last night, a couple of comments:
- Gomez has blood on his shirt when he takes cover behind the SUV. He's shot, so once that's revealed (I assume in the first 10 seconds of the next episode) this "poor shot" stuff goes out the window. Using the photo that ITM posted, Gomez and Hank were standing between the two cars, which is pretty much provides full coverage once you duck down. The show shooting Hank/Gomez from the side makes it look like they're wide open, when in reality the cars are overlapping with them in the middle. A well placed shot right off the bat could've taken them out (and I firmly believe that someone hit Gomez), but after that you're shooting through the car to get to them. Ducking and running low to the SUV isn't unrealistic. - I'm sorry, but what sense would there be in just shooting cars? Disabling them? Two federal agents just got a good look at the Nazi's cars and their faces, but yeah, those criminal mass-murderers are just going to disable the cars and leave the DEA guys alone? Come. On. People. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if they had an internal plan to kill Walt & whoever else was there and take Jesse to be a slave cook or something (since he's perceived to be weaker and Walt is only giving them 1 cook), but the idea that they were just going to roll up there, unload extended magazines into a DEA SUV and then pop Jesse before leaving the others alive? That makes little sense. - The "drive the SUV away" theory is the unquestioned worst part of everything in this thread since Sunday. That car is literally exploding with gunfire, who the hell is driving that thing away? And Walt isn't important to those guys once they realize they have the other cook in their grasp. Walt becomes *gasp* expendable at that point. They're no longer about murder-for-hire business, they're about getting the cook down so they can rake money hand-over-fist. The truth is that we don't know what the Nazi's angle is, but we know for damn sure that they aren't bending the knee to Walt (I crossed nerd streams). Walt needs them at this point just as much as they need him, and Jesse offers them another option, giving them more leverage against Walt. I realize this is all happening during a gunfight, but they showed Jack looking back and forth between Jesse and Walt for a solid 3-5 seconds, they wouldn't do that without it being important in some way.
My (likely to be wrong) prediction:
Walt comes to Hank's aid and kills one (or more) of the Nazi's, making him enemy #1 to them. Jesse runs away into the desert and gets picked up by the Nazi's who track him down and force him to mentor Todd. Gomez is dead. Walt escapes and begins his life on the lam.
The only part of that I actually think will happen is Gomez dying.
- I don't think Gomez got hit. I looked at a youtube rip of the episode after you posted this, and on second (and a couple more) viewings, I just don't see it. Not saying it won't happen next episode because he is certainly the most expendable known character at the shoot-out, but I really think he is okay as of when the episode ends. - I don't know if I left an incorrect impression by what I wrote (if you are in fact referencing anything I wrote) but I don't think they are going to let Hank and Gomez be. Even if they wanted to, I don't see Hank and Gomez being the type to just let them take Walt and/or Jesse without a fight especially since Hank knows he needs them to make his case. - I don't think Jack was looking back and forth was looking at Walt and Jesse. I think he was surveying the situation re: Hank and Gomez then looking towards Devil (I don't know the guy's name but he was Devil in Justified which is good enough for me) before giving him the nod to start firing.
- Unrelated to your post, I bet there have been more man hours put into analyzing the last 5 minutes of this episode over the last 48 hours than was put into the entire Warren Commission investigation.
The more I think about it the more I think the Nazi's must of been missing on purpose. The massacre just proves it. They were tons of rounds fired. The crew that slaughtered the Arizona crew would of landed at least one shot.
I finally watched it last night, a couple of comments:
- Gomez has blood on his shirt when he takes cover behind the SUV. He's shot, so once that's revealed (I assume in the first 10 seconds of the next episode) this "poor shot" stuff goes out the window. Using the photo that ITM posted, Gomez and Hank were standing between the two cars, which is pretty much provides full coverage once you duck down. The show shooting Hank/Gomez from the side makes it look like they're wide open, when in reality the cars are overlapping with them in the middle. A well placed shot right off the bat could've taken them out (and I firmly believe that someone hit Gomez), but after that you're shooting through the car to get to them. Ducking and running low to the SUV isn't unrealistic. - I'm sorry, but what sense would there be in just shooting cars? Disabling them? Two federal agents just got a good look at the Nazi's cars and their faces, but yeah, those criminal mass-murderers are just going to disable the cars and leave the DEA guys alone? Come. On. People. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if they had an internal plan to kill Walt & whoever else was there and take Jesse to be a slave cook or something (since he's perceived to be weaker and Walt is only giving them 1 cook), but the idea that they were just going to roll up there, unload extended magazines into a DEA SUV and then pop Jesse before leaving the others alive? That makes little sense. - The "drive the SUV away" theory is the unquestioned worst part of everything in this thread since Sunday. That car is literally exploding with gunfire, who the hell is driving that thing away? And Walt isn't important to those guys once they realize they have the other cook in their grasp. Walt becomes *gasp* expendable at that point. They're no longer about murder-for-hire business, they're about getting the cook down so they can rake money hand-over-fist. The truth is that we don't know what the Nazi's angle is, but we know for damn sure that they aren't bending the knee to Walt (I crossed nerd streams). Walt needs them at this point just as much as they need him, and Jesse offers them another option, giving them more leverage against Walt. I realize this is all happening during a gunfight, but they showed Jack looking back and forth between Jesse and Walt for a solid 3-5 seconds, they wouldn't do that without it being important in some way.
My (likely to be wrong) prediction:
Walt comes to Hank's aid and kills one (or more) of the Nazi's, making him enemy #1 to them. Jesse runs away into the desert and gets picked up by the Nazi's who track him down and force him to mentor Todd. Gomez is dead. Walt escapes and begins his life on the lam.
The only part of that I actually think will happen is Gomez dying.
- I don't think Gomez got hit. I looked at a youtube rip of the episode after you posted this, and on second (and a couple more) viewings, I just don't see it. Not saying it won't happen next episode because he is certainly the most expendable known character at the shoot-out, but I really think he is okay as of when the episode ends. - I don't know if I left an incorrect impression by what I wrote (if you are in fact referencing anything I wrote) but I don't think they are going to let Hank and Gomez be. Even if they wanted to, I don't see Hank and Gomez being the type to just let them take Walt and/or Jesse without a fight especially since Hank knows he needs them to make his case. - I don't think Jack was looking back and forth was looking at Walt and Jesse. I think he was surveying the situation re: Hank and Gomez then looking towards Devil (I don't know the guy's name but he was Devil in Justified which is good enough for me) before giving him the nod to start firing.
- Unrelated to your post, I bet there have been more man hours put into analyzing the last 5 minutes of this episode over the last 48 hours than was put into the entire Warren Commission investigation.
- The Youtube video isn't that good of quality, it was literally a half second glimpse where his jacket opened up a bit and you could see red on his pink shirt. I re-wound it at my apartment and my roommate said he saw the same thing. Maybe our TV sucks (possible), but I was pretty positive that he was bleeding. He also does a ridiculous grimace as he jumps behind the SUV (unrelated, but it makes me laugh when I re-watch the scene). - That 2nd bullet point wasn't directed at you, for the record. That was to the people who think they're just assaulting an automobile to disable it for whatever reason. - And in that Youtube video, go to the 44:00 mark. Jack looks at Hank screaming in the back of the car and then goes past Hank/Gomez and fixes on Jesse in the front seat. I just think that is too deliberate to be a coincidence. Devil = Kevin Rankin, who was superb in Friday Night Lights (as was Landry...uh, I mean Todd). Also, the sound being off makes that video nearly unwatchable.
- I don't think Gomez got hit. I looked at a youtube rip of the episode after you posted this, and on second (and a couple more) viewings, I just don't see it. Not saying it won't happen next episode because he is certainly the most expendable known character at the shoot-out, but I really think he is okay as of when the episode ends. - I don't know if I left an incorrect impression by what I wrote (if you are in fact referencing anything I wrote) but I don't think they are going to let Hank and Gomez be. Even if they wanted to, I don't see Hank and Gomez being the type to just let them take Walt and/or Jesse without a fight especially since Hank knows he needs them to make his case. - I don't think Jack was looking back and forth was looking at Walt and Jesse. I think he was surveying the situation re: Hank and Gomez then looking towards Devil (I don't know the guy's name but he was Devil in Justified which is good enough for me) before giving him the nod to start firing.
- Unrelated to your post, I bet there have been more man hours put into analyzing the last 5 minutes of this episode over the last 48 hours than was put into the entire Warren Commission investigation.
- The Youtube video isn't that good of quality, it was literally a half second glimpse where his jacket opened up a bit and you could see red on his pink shirt. I re-wound it at my apartment and my roommate said he saw the same thing. Maybe our TV sucks (possible), but I was pretty positive that he was bleeding. He also does a ridiculous grimace as he jumps behind the SUV (unrelated, but it makes me laugh when I re-watch the scene). - That 2nd bullet point wasn't directed at you, for the record. That was to the people who think they're just assaulting an automobile to disable it for whatever reason. - And in that Youtube video, go to the 44:00 mark. Jack looks at Hank screaming in the back of the car and then goes past Hank/Gomez and fixes on Jesse in the front seat. I just think that is too deliberate to be a coincidence. Devil = Kevin Rankin, who was superb in Friday Night Lights (as was Landry...uh, I mean Todd). Also, the sound being off makes that video nearly unwatchable.
I don't think Jack was looking back and forth was looking at Walt and Jesse. I think he was surveying the situation re: Hank and Gomez then looking towards Devil (I don't know the guy's name but he was Devil in Justified which is good enough for me)
This shows how fast it was for them to actually get to cover. It's been pointed out that we saw the same 2-3 seconds again and again from different angles (and with slow motion). So the editing makes it seem like they are out in the open forever when really they get behind the car right as shooting starts. It also shows how the angles gave them better cover than some of the shots led us to believe.
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