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how so many people are walking out of this movie saying "this really wasn't what I expected." Like I think it was pretty clear from the first promotional material for this movie that it was a UFO thriller.
how so many people are walking out of this movie saying "this really wasn't what I expected." Like I think it was pretty clear from the first promotional material for this movie that it was a UFO thriller.
how so many people are walking out of this movie saying "this really wasn't what I expected." Like I think it was pretty clear from the first promotional material for this movie that it was a UFO thriller.
As said above, I love all six from the two filmmakers. I honestly never really thought of comparing Peele against Eggers. It was always more of a Aster vs Eggers debate for me, whereas I thought Aster created more effective horror and dread, while Eggers is an overall better and more precise director.
I really put Peele on a different level, not for skill, but for appeal. With Get Out's Best Picture nomination he really crossed over into the mainstream, which I think Eggers kind of failed at with The Northman. Nope is on its way to being another success.
Still all three are very early in their career. I feel pretty rock solid about Eggers never churning out an outright bad film, and after seeing Nope and hearing/reading Peele in interviews I am pretty confident in him as well. Aster remains to be decided after Disappointment Boulevard.
I aagree that Peele has more mainstream appeal. The Northman was probably the closet Eggers will get to any type of mainstream film, and that's fine with me. I'd be perfectly content with him continuing to do crazy psychological horror and/or folk horror stuff. And yeah, Aster and Eggers are probably more comparable in terms of style.
And even though she has a totally different style, I think Oliva Wilde is another up and coming director to watch. Don't Worry Darling looks cool as fk. Such a turn from Booksmart.
I felt like the overall theme of the movie was sort of undermined by the way it ended. The whole movie is about exploitation for entertainment, and creating a spectacle out of an unpredictable wild animal. We have Jupe, who had that traumatic experience with Gordy (favorite scene of the movie btw), but he obviously didn't learn the proper lesson from this experience as he continued to exploit it by charging people thousands of dollars to look at the Gordy props and then we see his exploitation of the alien creature lead to his demise. But then... the Haywoods do the same thing trying to get the picture of the alien. The only difference was they learned to adapt to the alien's rules so they could get their shot. So idk, to me it felt sort of like.. what's the messaging here? They still made a spectacle of the alien, they just tricked it better than Jupe did. Idk, I thought the moral should have been more along the lines of "don't fuck with unpredictable creatures or you will fucking die" instead of "if you trick an animal well enough you can profit off of it, just don't be dumb about it". I just think a darker ending would have driven the point home better.
In addition to what TJF pointed out, I just thought the end got a little too much into "oh come on now, really" territory for me. Like, the helium balloon killing off the alien/spaceship thing was kind of an eye-roller. Also didn't care for the whole idea of the director character who was supposed to document the whole thing and how nonchalant everyone was about the situation at hand. Just seemed a little disingenuous
Since we're on the topic of horror directors, my personal preference:
1. Ari Aster 2. Panos Cosmatos 3. Brandon Cronenberg 4. Ti West 5. Timo Tjahjanto 6. Jordan Peele 7. Robert Eggers 8. James Wan 9. Fede Alvarez 10. Mike Flanagan
Since we're on the topic of horror directors, my personal preference:
1. Ari Aster 2. Panos Cosmatos 3. Brandon Cronenberg 4. Ti West 5. Timo Tjahjanto 6. Jordan Peele 7. Robert Eggers 8. James Wan 9. Fede Alvarez 10. Mike Flanagan
X was so good, & Pearl looks fantastic, I still need to check out his other movies!
Flanagan is great at creating genuinely spooky imagery and building interesting horror narratives, but holy shit he needs to drop those endless monologues.
Flanagan is great at creating genuinely spooky imagery and building interesting horror narratives, but holy shit he needs to drop those endless monologues.
The monologues are worth it for me. I'm a sucker for a religion twist but Midnight Mass is one of my fav macbre things I've ever consumed
Flanagan is great at creating genuinely spooky imagery and building interesting horror narratives, but holy shit he needs to drop those endless monologues.
The monologues are worth it for me. I'm a sucker for a religion twist but Midnight Mass is one of my fav macbre things I've ever consumed
Oh I loved Midnight Mass. For now it's worth it for me also, but I do think it's a problem that's gotten progressively worse each release of his. So many characters are sharing three minute monos detailing bits about their past and it is meant to come off as character development, but it breaks the "show don't tell" rule of screenwriting/creative writing in general. I eagerly anticipate House of Usher, but am very curious to see if this trend continues.
The monologues are worth it for me. I'm a sucker for a religion twist but Midnight Mass is one of my fav macbre things I've ever consumed
Oh I loved Midnight Mass. For now it's worth it for me also, but I do think it's a problem that's gotten progressively worse each release of his. So many characters are sharing three minute monos detailing bits about their past and it is meant to come off as character development, but it breaks the "show don't tell" rule of screenwriting/creative writing in general. I eagerly anticipate House of Usher, but am very curious to see if this trend continues.
I wonder how it'll work with the Langella exit.
I've ONLY seen Midnight Mass, and my theater friends say it's a sort of TV-play hybrid of writing. Certainly way more dialogue / monologues than a normal TV show. I don't mind it as a chance of pace, but sometimes I wish I was watching a cool vampire serial in a theater instead. I know that is probably not what theater can do though.
Oh I loved Midnight Mass. For now it's worth it for me also, but I do think it's a problem that's gotten progressively worse each release of his. So many characters are sharing three minute monos detailing bits about their past and it is meant to come off as character development, but it breaks the "show don't tell" rule of screenwriting/creative writing in general. I eagerly anticipate House of Usher, but am very curious to see if this trend continues.
I wonder how it'll work with the Langella exit.
I've ONLY seen Midnight Mass, and my theater friends say it's a sort of TV-play hybrid of writing. Certainly way more dialogue / monologues than a normal TV show. I don't mind it as a chance of pace, but sometimes I wish I was watching a cool vampire serial in a theater instead. I know that is probably not what theater can do though.
I enjoyed Midnight Mass as a more original take for him, putting down classic horror literature and Stephen King for something a bit more personal. But I do recommend Doctor Sleep and of course Haunting of Hill House. I think those are his two best works. Midnight Club is his next one as a producer. I'm not sure what his writing or directing credits are on that yet.
I've ONLY seen Midnight Mass, and my theater friends say it's a sort of TV-play hybrid of writing. Certainly way more dialogue / monologues than a normal TV show. I don't mind it as a chance of pace, but sometimes I wish I was watching a cool vampire serial in a theater instead. I know that is probably not what theater can do though.
I enjoyed Midnight Mass as a more original take for him, putting down classic horror literature and Stephen King for something a bit more personal. But I do recommend Doctor Sleep and of course Haunting of Hill House. I think those are his two best works. Midnight Club is his next one as a producer. I'm not sure what his writing or directing credits are on that yet.
I didn't know he did Doctor Sleep! I have a tremendous crush on Rebecca Ferguson.
Flanagan is great at creating genuinely spooky imagery and building interesting horror narratives, but holy shit he needs to drop those endless monologues.
The monologues in Midnight Mass mostly worked for me but the final monologue that Erin (Kate Siegel) gives goes on so long that it started to feel like intentional humor to me. I think I laughed out loud after she took a beat and then kept. going.
Flanagan is great at creating genuinely spooky imagery and building interesting horror narratives, but holy shit he needs to drop those endless monologues.
The monologues in Midnight Mass mostly worked for me but the final monologue that Erin (Kate Siegel) gives goes on so long that it started to feel like intentional humor to me. I think I laughed out loud after she took a beat and then kept. going.
The monologue issue is annoying, but not a total deal breaker for me. I'll still watch Midnight Club and House of Usher for sure. I think he just really needs a good co-writer to take a sharpie to it or an editor to just be like "we're good on this Mike". It's what keeps him from being a modern great like Peele, Eggers, or Aster to me.