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tons of artists cancelling tours due to rising costs and inflation, as well as mental/physical health reasons, including Animal Collective, Santigold, Arlo Parks, Little Simz, Low, Two Door Cinema Club etc. Not to mention tons of artists saying they barely break even on tours now. the collapse is coming for smaller and midsize acts i’d say
Basically this. Non stadium venues can't sustain themselves with only the big tours. I'm trying to remember where I read it but a few months ago I saw something that mentioned that the bigger tours are doing better than they ever have but other tours are really struggling. This isn't sustainable for anyone involved. Artists, venues, booking agents, etc.
yup. its really incredibly sad. I don’t remember where i read it but one of the main members of deerhunter quit the industry entirely and Bradford Cox has had no desire to revive the project
Post by Christopher Shawn on Oct 10, 2022 13:56:52 GMT -5
Id be more concerned about covid wiping out a large portion of club size venues in the majority of touring markets.
With that being said, for every tour being cancelled there are dozens more moving forward. Smaller bands are choosing to forego the debilitating costs of previous generations of musicians like outsourcing booking, and engaging with venues that take merch cuts. Bands will continue to outsavy the industry while acts that are unable or unwilling to evolve will cry foul.
I will say, in the next 20 years, more musicians, probably most, will choose simply not to tour...ever. Its not really worth it for most people.
Yeah I saw the message Animal Collective posted today on their social media about cancelling their overseas tour because of inflationary costs. Very sobering read.
Id be more concerned about covid wiping out a large portion of club size venues in the majority of touring markets.
With that being said, for every tour being cancelled there are dozens more moving forward. Smaller bands are choosing to forego the debilitating costs of previous generations of musicians like outsourcing booking, and engaging with venues that take merch cuts. Bands will continue to outsavy the industry while acts that are unable or unwilling to evolve will cry foul.
I will say, in the next 20 years, more musicians, probably most, will choose simply not to tour...ever. Its not really worth it for most people.
Not a super sustainable industry when Artists have to outsavy the other parts of the industry in order to survive.
Post by Christopher Shawn on Oct 10, 2022 14:11:32 GMT -5
Absolutely not.
You have to want to be creative, to do the majority of the work yourself, and work with like minded people at the venues you choose to work with.
Its not sustainable for a lot of artists. And it's definetely not sustainable for a lot of booking agents and bookers.
The industry will evolve because live music is at the end of a day a commodity that there is ample want and need for. Gonna be interesting to see how the next few decades play out.
I am wondering though if we’ll start to see hip hop and electronic tours start to pop up more than tours w full bands. Given its way more profitable for one musician to tour rather than 4+
I am wondering though if we’ll start to see hip hop and electronic tours start to pop up more than tours w full bands. Given its way more profitable for one musician to tour rather than 4+
I am wondering though if we’ll start to see hip hop and electronic tours start to pop up more than tours w full bands. Given its way more profitable for one musician to tour rather than 4+
What a lot of those artists lack in on stage personnel, at least beyond the indie level, they tend to make up for with production. Lights and such. Those things take up a lot of space, and require staff to program and operate. Solo artists ala Amigo the Devil might become more common.
I am wondering though if we’ll start to see hip hop and electronic tours start to pop up more than tours w full bands. Given its way more profitable for one musician to tour rather than 4+
What a lot of those artists lack in on stage personnel, at least beyond the indie level, they tend to make up for with production. Lights and such. Those things take up a lot of space, and require staff to program and operate. Solo artists ala Amigo the Devil might become more common.
I saw Amigo the Devil a few months ago and there were six people on stage
What a lot of those artists lack in on stage personnel, at least beyond the indie level, they tend to make up for with production. Lights and such. Those things take up a lot of space, and require staff to program and operate. Solo artists ala Amigo the Devil might become more common.
I saw Amigo the Devil a few months ago and there were six people on stage
Yeah I saw the message Animal Collective posted today on their social media about cancelling their overseas tour because of inflationary costs. Very sobering read.
I would just say that Animal Collective not being able to make a tour work where they are playing 700 seat venues in Glasgow, when the pound has fallen 10% plus from when they sold tix might not be indicative of the touring market writ large
Yeah I saw the message Animal Collective posted today on their social media about cancelling their overseas tour because of inflationary costs. Very sobering read.
I would just say that Animal Collective not being able to make a tour work where they are playing 700 seat venues in Glasgow, when the pound has fallen 10% plus from when they sold tix might not be indicative of the touring market writ large
This is a really good point. And respect to Santigold, another artist that has been brought up recently for canceling a major tour, but she hasn't had a major hit or press coverage for maybe ten years.
And Deerhunter mentioned earlier in the thread, seems like they already hit a popularity peak and have been steadily dropping since 2013. I remember Bradford complaining about ticket sales in 2019 when they toured with Dirty Projectors. Totally sucks but a lot of those 00s indie acts just do not have the draw they used to.
Not to downplay all of the issues at hand, but some of these examples are unsurprising.