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Hey guys, been meaning to come make a thread about this for awhile. Wish I had done so sooner because tomorrow might be the deadline for any legislation to pass...I'm not sure.
From the start of this pandemic, I've been concerned about the future of live music. Then I learned about NIVA, the National Independent Venue Association. Over the past few months they've been lobbying for legislation to help venues while they can't operate. There is now a Save Our Stages Act, a RESTART Act, and an ENCORES Act floating around. NIVA is really encouraging people to make a lot of noise about this and reach out to our legislators. At SaveOurStages.com there is one of those easy 30-second form letters you can fill out to contact your representatives. You can also call your representatives directly which I started doing a week or two ago. I've never done something like this before but it's too important for me to sit out on this. Hopefully some of you guys feel the same. While the legislation is aimed toward independent venues I can't help but feel that this is important for the industry as a whole.
Been posting about this a lot on social media but you guys are really the ones who would most get behind this. This community (here, the old Coachella board, etc) helped shape me into the festival/concert enthusiast I am today. I don't want to lose these things, so please consider joining me in urging our representatives to support these acts and asking our networks to help #SaveOurStages Cheers everyone, hope you're all holding up okay.
Last Edit: Sept 25, 2020 17:05:17 GMT -5 by DT - Back to Top
I hopped on this a while back to sign up and support the cause. It's frightening to imagine how many venues could go under because of the upside down priorities in Washington.
Is the deadline for any funding/support from the fed. government truly tonight?
Bump. To answer your question Ty, that clearly wasn't the deadline - and nothing's happened since (almost two months later). It's pretty unbelievable.
If you haven't sent the Save Our Stages letter, please do so now: www.SaveOurStages.com And really we should be sending this or contacting our reps about this in some way every day. Something like 60 venues have already closed permanently, I read somewhere. And while that may not seem like many right now, do we really want to risk it getting any worse? The letter takes 30 seconds.
I have spreadsheets and templates for calling, faxing and tweeting members of Congress. I can send these to anyone interested. Made about 40 calls yesterday and sent about the same number of e-mails. Sent a bunch of faxes today as well in case that might stand out. But yeah, I can't do this alone. We all clearly love festivals and shows in general on here so I hope you'll help out. The RESTART Act - the most likely to be implemented, I think - has 56 cosponsors in the Senate but only 100-some in the House.
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The Save Our Stages Act has been included in the House's latest proposed COVID relief package. This is great progress. However, after sitting in on a Zoom session with the Congressional staffers behind the RESTART Act, I am wondering if the Save Our Stages Act is broad enough in scope. Certainly it will provide aid to independent venues. But what about all the ancillary businesses that have been crippled as well? I'm not sure.
For the moment I have followed the advice of the Congressional staffers - reaching out to Speaker Pelosi, Nydia Velazquez (Chairwoman of the House Small Business Committee), and members of the Small Business Committee that cosponsor the RESTART Act. The goal being to get the RESTART Act included on the relief bill. Inviting you guys to join me.
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I've been out of town and spaced on this until I saw Brittany Howard live from The Ryman was on. Good show. Leon Bridges is on now (with Lucky Daye and special guests). Miley is on next then Foo Fighters acoustic . Not sure how this will copy, but I'll post today's schedule (in case you can scan back) and then come back and post tomorrow's. All times are Pacific Daylight Time.
01:00pm - Jason Mraz @ Belly Up Tavern 01:40pm - Adam Melchor @ Hotel Cafe 02:10pm - Kelsea Ballerini @ Exit/In 02:40pm - J.P. Saxe @ Troubadour 03:15pm - Cautious Clay @ World Cafe Live 03:55pm - Bea Miller @ Telegram Ballroom 04:35pm - Gus Dapperton @ (le) Poisson Rouge 05:15pm - Phoebe Bridgers @ Troubadour 06:00pm - Rise Against @ Metro 06:25pm - Brittany Howard @ The Ryman 06:55pm - Miley Cyrus @ Whisky A Go-Go 07:35pm - Foo Fighters @ Troubadour 08:10pm - The Roots @ Apollo Theater 09:20pm - Portugal. The Man @ Crystal Ballroom 10:10pm - Major Lazer @ Gramps
Glad to see the exclusion of Live Nation and the other big players so these funds go to the venues that actually need the money and support.
I understand why people have this mentality, but I think all concert promoters need stimulus money, even Live Nation. No one is going to any concerts. It's not like in retail where people aren't going to brick and mortar small businesses and shopping at Amazon instead.
Glad to see the exclusion of Live Nation and the other big players so these funds go to the venues that actually need the money and support.
I understand why people have this mentality, but I think all concert promoters need stimulus money, even Live Nation. No one is going to any concerts. It's not like in retail where people aren't going to brick and mortar small businesses and shopping at Amazon instead.
the point is that this money was designed for independent venues because the large players like Live Nation have the money and access to money to stay afloat while the small guy doesn’t.
LN and AEG have their hands in nearly every venue, even a lot of the local ones I’ve been to. They also employ a ton of people. I agree supporting local is important but until LN is broken up for being anti-competitive it’s a net positive to bail them out
I understand why people have this mentality, but I think all concert promoters need stimulus money, even Live Nation. No one is going to any concerts. It's not like in retail where people aren't going to brick and mortar small businesses and shopping at Amazon instead.
the point is that this money was designed for independent venues because the large players like Live Nation have the money and access to money to stay afloat while the small guy doesn’t.
Life Nation had nearly $2B in liquidity as of 9/30 and is raising another $500M as of last week. They don’t need any slice of the $15B.
again gonna disagree. If you're gonna bail out airlines, hotels, and movie theatres there's no reason not to bail out Live Nation and AEG too. Taking on 5.35B in debt in total over the pandemic is not going to be good for us fans going forward.
To be clear: I'm not saying that LN should be getting that $15B I'm saying there should be more money that goes to them. Fine to keep that 15B pot for the small ones but also something for LN/AEG
Agree with Gocats- LN and AEG will need the money, too, to keep their venues afloat and support festivals returning- which in turn feed local hotels, bars/restaurants, and airline travel to destination fests. I’m guessing artists, after a long layoff, will want to be paid fairly quickly by LN and AEG...
So the owners of Exit/In are trying to buy the property they are sitting on. They have only been there for 50 years! They made a bid, and the asshole slumlord sold it for the exact amount they offered to someone else, out of spite. Now they have a go fund me up to raise $200,000 to make a new bid to the new assholes that bought it and want to tear it down and put up an overpriced high rise apartment building. BECAUSE WE NEED MORE OF THOSE!
Anyway, they raised the money in 6 days and they will make their bid.
If they don't get it, does anyone have experience on chaining themselves to a building? I may need advice, and bail money.
Apparently the Shuttered Venues Operators Grant that was passed as part of the December relief package (essentially the Save Our Stages Act) has been having a lot of issues getting off the ground. Sounds like it's a huge mess involving the Small Business Administration. Lots of issues. Somehow got on the mailing list of Michael Strickland from Bandit Lites, who has been really involved in getting the live events industry relief. Anyway the grant portal is supposed to re-open again tomorrow after a miserable attempt earlier this month. Bottom line is despite the relief package passing in December no one's actually received any of this grant money. Hopefully things run smoothly tomorrow.
