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My question is, what made him turn around? Throughout the episode he seemed hesitant to go along with Marco's plans. Jimmy was ready to head home even before Marco's last con. He was excited to get back to Albuquerque, he loved working with his clients and even said he was good at it. But, the week of pulling cons in Chicago and the natural demise of an old friend, whom he had basically told many years ago to "get off the bar stool and do something with your life", suddenly changes his mind? I just don't get it. It seemed a weak catalyst to swing him fully back to "Slippin' Jimmy."
I agree. It would be one thing if he wasn't really passionate about working on the elder law cases or if they otherwise showed that that didn't fulfill him, but he seemed to really enjoy doing it and went to great lengths for his clients (or himself, really, depending on how you look at it). Either way, he seemed set up to enjoy a pretty decent career as a legitimate lawyer - and this is what I actually wanted for him, even though I knew obviously that wasn't going to happen.
I think the feeling of anticlimacticism (we should make that a word) is due to Vince Gilligan sometimes tying things up a bit too nicely. For example, in the finale of Breaking Bad
all the loose ends get tied up perfectly, there's no big twist, nothing left hanging. Everything goes pretty much as you expect it to. The show ends without much tension. It's the same with the season finale of BCS. It's like "okay, I know what's happening here".
This episode just kinda seemed like a necessary bridge between this and the next season, but as a standalone episode it didn't do a whole lot for me.
See my above post. If you think he was actually enjoying the elder law thing then I think you should go back and rewatch the series. It was made very clear that he tolerated it, and he worked hard to be successful, but only because he wanted to impress Chuck. BFor every scene where he was doing well at 'faking' it there was a scene where his facade was cracking and he was visibly unhappy with dealing with those cases. Once he let go of Chuck he had no hesitation in embracing his 'criminal' side, which is really what he's wanted all along.
I agree. It would be one thing if he wasn't really passionate about working on the elder law cases or if they otherwise showed that that didn't fulfill him, but he seemed to really enjoy doing it and went to great lengths for his clients (or himself, really, depending on how you look at it). Either way, he seemed set up to enjoy a pretty decent career as a legitimate lawyer - and this is what I actually wanted for him, even though I knew obviously that wasn't going to happen.
I think the feeling of anticlimacticism (we should make that a word) is due to Vince Gilligan sometimes tying things up a bit too nicely. For example, in the finale of Breaking Bad
all the loose ends get tied up perfectly, there's no big twist, nothing left hanging. Everything goes pretty much as you expect it to. The show ends without much tension. It's the same with the season finale of BCS. It's like "okay, I know what's happening here".
This episode just kinda seemed like a necessary bridge between this and the next season, but as a standalone episode it didn't do a whole lot for me.
See my above post. If you think he was actually enjoying the elder law thing then I think you should go back and rewatch the series. It was made very clear that he tolerated it, and he worked hard to be successful, but only because he wanted to impress Chuck. BFor every scene where he was doing well at 'faking' it there was a scene where his facade was cracking and he was visibly unhappy with dealing with those cases. Once he let go of Chuck he had no hesitation in embracing his 'criminal' side, which is really what he's wanted all along.
Yeah, that makes sense. I was talking to a coworker about it today and he said the same thing. I guess that while I could definitely tell that he lived in the shadow of Chuck, I never really felt like impressing him was that much of a motivator for him. And I fully admit that I didn't know exactly what Saul was referring to by "I know why and it's never going to stop me again", so this clarifies things. Maybe I should pay more attention when I watch.
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Loving Better Call Saul... I had intended on watching season 1 before this season started, but found myself rewatching Breaking Bad... currently wrapping up season 4.
Loving Better Call Saul... I had intended on watching season 1 before this season started, but found myself rewatching Breaking Bad... currently wrapping up season 4.
If you haven't watched season 1 I definitely recommend watching it ASAP, before getting into season 2. You could probably start with season 2 and enjoy it, but there are a lot of explanations for things in the first one. It was one of my favorite seasons of any show ever. I just really dig Bob Odenkirk, his character, and how he plays him.
Or if you meant you wanted to watch season 2 again, that's different. I don't usually watch anything more than once, at least not until years after the first time, but that's just me.
It seems like Jimmy becomes Saul tomorrow. This season started strong and then weakened a bit but the last two episodes were great.
Yeah, the buildup has been slower than I would like but I can see things speeding up as Mike and Tuco start to butt heads and Jimmy becomes less and less enchanted with the polished professional lawyer gig.
I'm guessing saul will show up when kim is out of the picture. the show has been really slow up to this point but I think it's about to get good. slow or not, I'm loving the hell out of it.
I'm guessing saul will show up when kim is out of the picture. the show has been really slow up to this point but I think it's about to get good. slow or not, I'm loving the hell out of it.
I don't necessarily think the show has been slow so far, just that it is taking a while for him to become Saul. I've got to think some pretty serious shit is going to have to go down for Jimmy to feel the need to change his name. Favorite show on TV right now.
1. I think Chuck is going to die. Even if Chuck and Jimmy/Saul have an even bigger fallout than they have already had, I think Saul would've at least mentioned his brother in Breaking Bad if Chuck wasn't dead.
2. Kim is going to get so angry/fed up with Jimmy/Saul that she moves away (perhaps to start her own firm). Jimmy changing his name to Saul Goodman might be the thing that makes her leave, or vice versa, her leaving might make Jimmy want to completely reinvent himself.
3. The whole Mike/Salamanca story has been terrific, and I'm hoping (and kinda expecting) Gus Fring to at least make an appearance before the end of the series. Also, I love that they brought back Hector Salamanca pre-stroke. I'm thinking Nacho is going to get killed, that one seems obvious. Hell, Mike is probably the one who is gonna have to punch his ticket.
4. Some of my friends who are also watching the show have been extremely critical of Chuck and just hate his guts. Which I do understand, but don't agree with. They're main argument is that Chuck treated Jimmy like a piece of shit in not letting him join HHM. Yet I don't really feel that way because I can empathize with Chuck. For starters, the more we learn about Jimmy's past, the more we find out that he is kind of a conniving scumbag, even if he is a very charming and nice guy for the most part. And second, everything that Chuck worries about what Jimmy will become comes true. He does end up being a corrupt, criminal lawyer that ends up helping, enabling, and arguably having a hand in creating one of the worst criminals in US history in Walter White/Heisenberg. I just think Chuck knows a whole lot more about Jimmy than the audience. If I had a brother who I'd bailed out of jail multiple times, and had stolen $14,000 dollars from our Father's gas station business, then I wouldn't trust him either. So I totally understand Chuck saying, "Look you can be a lawyer Jimmy, just not at my firm".
I'm guessing saul will show up when kim is out of the picture. the show has been really slow up to this point but I think it's about to get good. slow or not, I'm loving the hell out of it.
I don't necessarily think the show has been slow so far, just that it is taking a while for him to become Saul. I've got to think some pretty serious shit is going to have to go down for Jimmy to feel the need to change his name. Favorite show on TV right now.
1. I think Chuck is going to die. Even if Chuck and Jimmy/Saul have an even bigger fallout than they have already had, I think Saul would've at least mentioned his brother in Breaking Bad if Chuck wasn't dead.
2. Kim is going to get so angry/fed up with Jimmy/Saul that she moves away (perhaps to start her own firm). Jimmy changing his name to Saul Goodman might be the thing that makes her leave, or vice versa, her leaving might make Jimmy want to completely reinvent himself.
3. The whole Mike/Salamanca story has been terrific, and I'm hoping (and kinda expecting) Gus Fring to at least make an appearance before the end of the series. Also, I love that they brought back Hector Salamanca pre-stroke. I'm thinking Nacho is going to get killed, that one seems obvious. Hell, Mike is probably the one who is gonna have to punch his ticket.
4. Some of my friends who are also watching the show have been extremely critical of Chuck and just hate his guts. Which I do understand, but don't agree with. They're main argument is that Chuck treated Jimmy like a piece of shit in not letting him join HHM. Yet I don't really feel that way because I can empathize with Chuck. For starters, the more we learn about Jimmy's past, the more we find out that he is kinda of conniving scumbag, even if he is a very charming and nice guy for the most part. And second, everything that Chuck worries about what Jimmy will become comes true. He does end up being a corrupt, criminal lawyer that ends up helping, enabling, and arguably having a hand in creating one of the worst criminals in US history in Walter White/Heisenberg. I just think Chuck knows a whole lot more about Jimmy than the audience. If I had a brother who I'd bailed out of jail multiple times, and had stolen $14,000 dollars from our Father's gas station business, then I wouldn't trust him either. So I totally understand Chuck saying, "Look you can be a lawyer Jimmy, just not at my firm".
I pretty much agree with everything you're saying. I still think its been a slow start, not breaking bad season 1 slow, but slow. However, that said, I think it's very much needed to set the story line. either way, I LOVED Breaking Bad and I expect the same from BCS
I'm guessing saul will show up when kim is out of the picture. the show has been really slow up to this point but I think it's about to get good. slow or not, I'm loving the hell out of it.
I don't necessarily think the show has been slow so far, just that it is taking a while for him to become Saul. I've got to think some pretty serious shit is going to have to go down for Jimmy to feel the need to change his name. Favorite show on TV right now.
1. I think Chuck is going to die. Even if Chuck and Jimmy/Saul have an even bigger fallout than they have already had, I think Saul would've at least mentioned his brother in Breaking Bad if Chuck wasn't dead.
2. Kim is going to get so angry/fed up with Jimmy/Saul that she moves away (perhaps to start her own firm). Jimmy changing his name to Saul Goodman might be the thing that makes her leave, or vice versa, her leaving might make Jimmy want to completely reinvent himself.
3. The whole Mike/Salamanca story has been terrific, and I'm hoping (and kinda expecting) Gus Fring to at least make an appearance before the end of the series. Also, I love that they brought back Hector Salamanca pre-stroke. I'm thinking Nacho is going to get killed, that one seems obvious. Hell, Mike is probably the one who is gonna have to punch his ticket.
4. Some of my friends who are also watching the show have been extremely critical of Chuck and just hate his guts. Which I do understand, but don't agree with. They're main argument is that Chuck treated Jimmy like a piece of shit in not letting him join HHM. Yet I don't really feel that way because I can empathize with Chuck. For starters, the more we learn about Jimmy's past, the more we find out that he is kinda of conniving scumbag, even if he is a very charming and nice guy for the most part. And second, everything that Chuck worries about what Jimmy will become comes true. He does end up being a corrupt, criminal lawyer that ends up helping, enabling, and arguably having a hand in creating one of the worst criminals in US history in Walter White/Heisenberg. I just think Chuck knows a whole lot more about Jimmy than the audience. If I had a brother who I'd bailed out of jail multiple times, and had stolen $14,000 dollars from our Father's gas station business, then I wouldn't trust him either. So I totally understand Chuck saying, "Look you can be a lawyer Jimmy, just not at my firm".
I don't blame Chuck either. His coming clean to Jimmy even gave Jimmy extra motivation to prove Chuck wrong, and he couldn't do it. It is kind of sad to watch Jimmy make all these terrible decisions and ultimately throw his life away, when you see what it could have been.
I don't blame Chuck either. His coming clean to Jimmy even gave Jimmy extra motivation to prove Chuck wrong, and he couldn't do it. It is kind of sad to watch Jimmy make all these terrible decisions and ultimately throw his life away, when you see what it could have been.
I'm really going to hate him if he brings Kim down with him.
Good find! Mike's behavior in the last 2 episodes seemed very non-Mike-like to me. I guess they can say this is an experience Mike learns from, but I keep finding myself wondering what is going on inside his head to make him think that's a good idea...
Good find! Mike's behavior in the last 2 episodes seemed very non-Mike-like to me. I guess they can say this is an experience Mike learns from, but I keep finding myself wondering what is going on inside his head to make him think that's a good idea...
I think he's got an endgame in mind that we don't know about yet. Mike's actions are always very calculated and intentional, and he's usually a step ahead of things. I don't see this being any different, except for perhaps he didn't expect the person the Mexicans to clean things up so quick and clean.
Also, the first letters of all the episode titles this season can be rearranged to spell out "FRINGSBACK".
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Also, the first letters of all the episode titles this season can be rearranged to spell out "FRINGSBACK".
His appearance on the show has to be inevitable. He and Mike had seemed to be working together for a while in BB. My guess is that Hector thinks it was Fring who hit him, or Fring maybe sees this as an opportunity to claim the area. I think we'll see Mike start working for Fring by early next season.
I think he's got an endgame in mind that we don't know about yet.
That's what I keep hoping
I thought it was pretty clear that he was trying to get the police after hector and the gang, which is why he asked about the police and was disappointed that they cleaned it up so fast. Or is that just what they want us to think while mike has a different motive altogether?
Finally got caught up on this show, after having stopped watching it weekly after episode 6...this may not be a very popular opinion among the masses, but I'm really loving the slow pacing of the series so far. The character work on this show as well as the foreshadowing (or what seems like foreshadowing) and metaphorical content is just on a whole different level. However, I do hope that the deliberate pace of this show doesn't turn off fans of Breaking Bad's faster, more eventful pace and ratings don't sag and it gets prematurely cancelled.
Finally got caught up on this show, after having stopped watching it weekly after episode 6...this may not be a very popular opinion among the masses, but I'm really loving the slow pacing of the series so far. The character work on this show as well as the foreshadowing (or what seems like foreshadowing) and metaphorical content is just on a whole different level. However, I do hope that the deliberate pace of this show doesn't turn off fans of Breaking Bad's faster, more eventful pace and ratings don't sag and it gets prematurely cancelled.
I like the pacing as well. I read interviews with the showrunners and they say how they initially planned on having Jimmy become full-blown Saul Goodman by the end of season one and then discovered that they loved the characters and story they were telling so they sort of hit the brakes on it a little bit. I'm glad they did because all the law firm stuff has been fun to watch.
And they are scratching my "Breaking Bad" itch with the Mike storyline, so I'm satisfied. He's the badass side of things.
This is an example of just pure entertainment. I loved all of this: