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Post by itrainmonkeys on Aug 16, 2013 11:45:30 GMT -5
Back in June, Twitter was abuzz about Papoose for the first time since…well, long before The Nacirema Dream. The Brooklyn-born rapper unexpectedly crashed Hot 97?s Summer Jam in-between sets by Kendrick Lamar and French Montana, an action notable enough to inspire a meme. Today, Papoose is back in the news, thanks to his remix of Big Sean’s “Control,” a.k.a. that song with the Kendrick Lamar verse that we’ll be talking about for months.
And it’s pretty damn good.
Tell Kendrick and TDE they need to lay off the PCP Far from the king, this is the city of BDP You’ll never be a real west coast artist like Eazy-E You f*cking joke, we laughing at you like hehehe Ya’ll probably stick dildos in each other like Stevie G I mean Stevie J on that sextape with E-V-E.
Kendrick isn't stupid, he knows what he was doing by writing that part of his verse. It could very easily have been taken out, or written differently without names. He put the names to it to make it notable, to bring people into a discussion on random internet nerderies like the one we're having here.
This is the point that I think people are overlooking. Whether or not you think the verse is "good or bad" or he's going to pail in comparison to some of the responses isn't even the big issue. He's a smart young artist who knew what the verse would bring to the genre as a whole. As far as career moves go I think it's an insanely brilliant move. No young gun has put out an album like GKMC, so there's no reason to prove his supremacy there. Everyone knows he can make insightful and complex schemes within his songs. So why not take everything a step further and say to yourself, "You know, I could probably do what those great MC's in the 90's were doing and draw some battle lines to make things really interesting." The kid was fully aware of what his verse would do. Kudos.
Wasn't the Kendrick thing a freestyle? Or am I just confused about shiz?
No. It was a leaked verse from the Big Sean song "Control," which for some inexplicable reason Big Sean still thinks he did the best on.
Haha, I think he finally came to grips with it in the interview I saw. At the same time, he was proud of his verse, which I think he should be. People shouldn't praise Kendrick for being competitive then say oh Sean you're an idiot for thinking you did well on that song. He has every right to be competitive and confident, as well. That being said, it's almost comical to hear Sean's whole verse before Kendrick and Jay's.
Listen you honkey tonk white breads** ... hip-hop is one, massive d*ck measuring contest.
My post in response to Dave was kind of coincidental. I had just got home from a long, 120 mile drive from work yesterday, listening to the new Earl Sweatshirt, and a verse from Tyler came on. It made me think of Kendrick calling him out on "Control" and how I don't get why there is such competition in hip hop. Of course, I immediately compared his verse to Earl's verse, but my white beard way of thinking says they're both good and both have their purpose. I mean, I don't give a sh*t who the best guitar player in the world is. I know hip-hop is different, with battles and rappers trying "murder" other rappers, it's just a side of hip-hop that I'm not into. I will go back to my honky tonk, now.
Listen you honkey tonk white breads** ... hip-hop is one, massive d*ck measuring contest.
My post in response to Dave was kind of coincidental. I had just got home from a long, 120 mile drive from work yesterday, listening to the new Earl Sweatshirt, and a verse from Tyler came on. It made me think of Kendrick calling him out on "Control" and how I don't get why there is such competition in hip hop. Of course, I immediately compared his verse to Earl's verse, but my white beard way of thinking says they're both good and both have their purpose. I mean, I don't give a sh*t who the best guitar player in the world is. I know hip-hop is different, with battles and rappers trying "murder" other rappers, it's just a side of hip-hop that I'm not into. I will go back to my honky tonk, now.
I realize we're capable of looking at the situation objectively, but we're also not involved in it. There's a whole sub culture where ego and pride reigns supreme, that's more what I was getting at. And the honky tonk comment was directed more at Dave, since I like to poke that cuddly bear.
Yea, I would feel more slighted if I was part of the new generation of rappers, and I wasn't named.
I don't think this is necessarily true for all rappers. I think Kendrick purposely didn't mention a few names such as Earl, Joey BA, and Action Bronson.
I perceived the verse to be more along the lines of competitive shit talking than a venomous diss. Kendrick was pretty much pointing out that he's running laps around all of his peers right now, and he is.
Post by Billadelphia on Aug 16, 2013 14:09:53 GMT -5
Speaking of Earl, did anyone check out the new track, "Between Villains" yet? DOOM, Earl, FlyLo, and Thundercat. I feel a little crazy saying this, but I think FlyLo actually had the best verse on the track. I'd love to hear some more thoughts on the track. I'm pretty much loving anything FlyLo does at this point,and DOOM is such a beast.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Aug 20, 2013 11:10:39 GMT -5
In New York City, there are street signs practically everywhere you look: regulations, noise violations, directions, and -- at least for the moment -- rap lyrics. Street artist and graphic designer Jason Shelowitz, known as Jay Shells, has been installing these signs at various locations in the city to memorialize their mention in hip hop lyrics. According to Shelowitz, it all started with Big L's "Lifestylez ov da Poor & Dangerous."
"I was actually just working in my home studio on some fine art, listening to music as I always do,” he says. “And this particular Big L song came on that I’ve heard hundreds of times in my life. And I kind of heard myself going along with the lyrics and heard myself say, ‘On 139 and Lenox Ave. there’s a big park.’ And I just thought, ‘It would be really cool to mark that spot.' It’s such a specific area.”
Since then, Shelowitz has placed signs in front of places as famous as Carnegie Hall (which is mentioned in Busta Rhymes' "Bounce") and as far and obscure as the Smith Haven Mall in Suffolk County, Long Island (a nod to R.A. the Rugged Man's Smithhaven Mall.)
Even though the signs frequently get stolen, Shelowitz continues to put more out there. He hopes to pursue more permanent installations that aren’t “technically illegal.”
“New York is so full of history, and so many amazing things happen on virtually every corner every day and throughout history,” Shelowitz explains. “And nobody knows... So many tourists, so many people that live here don’t even know. You walk right by this corner and this is part of a famous song. And I think you should know it.”
Yeah, read about this the other day and I think it's awesome.
My friends and I have a running joke about "one-three-nine and Lenox" because we grew up loving Big L and he says it a lot in his songs. Very creative idea and a cool way to remember some of the history of NYC hip-hop.
Stay Trippy is terribly good. If anyone else would've made this album it would be awful. The combination of his rhythmic flow and him being a pioneer of this Dirty South Trap style makes it a fun listen.
Post by batmansbrother on Aug 27, 2013 11:18:25 GMT -5
I wish I didn't know already like half the songs off Doris before it got released. It's great but I don't know.. It wasn't like when I heard Wolf. Anyways, should I see Joey Bada$$ and The Underachievers in Orlando this November?
Stay Trippy is exactly what it needs to be at this point in Juicy’s career. He’s doggedly sticking to his strengths and that persistence works in his favor here. As they enter the late stages of their careers, many artists fall into the trap of pushing a newfound “maturity” into places that feel dull and lifeless. As a man who is best known for rapping about syrup sipping, it would be lame if Juicy tried to rhyme about the existential angst of purchasing overpriced art. Tax advice rap is not Juicy’s wave, so what we get is a record about what Juicy loves: strippers, drugs and robbing people.
Post by Jake Jortles on Sept 27, 2013 15:45:03 GMT -5
Just came to the conclusion that Rising Down is my favorite Roots album. Black Thought is at his absolute best and the production is just so dang gritty up until the last song.