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Georgia narrowly wins on the road over a middle tier team. "Oh what poise and focus!" Clemson narrowly wins on the road over a middle tier team. "I guess they really aren't that good."
I'm just glad they quit saying SEC speed. that was the worst. we're faster than every SEC team.
I never understood that one either. I felt like anyone who said that had never seen Oregon play.
At the time, it was legitimate. Oregon was an exception, but the Big 10 was still lining up in pro-set formations and running power-I, the Big East was a joke, the ACC didn't have anyone that could match up with the SECs best and the Big 12 only looked fast playing against each other's crappy defenses.
Things have leveled off, but 3-5 years ago that was a legitimate claim.
At the time, it was legitimate. Oregon was an exception, but the Big 10 was still lining up in pro-set formations and running power-I, the Big East was a joke, the ACC didn't have anyone that could match up with the SECs best and the Big 12 only looked fast playing against each other's crappy defenses.
Things have leveled off, but 3-5 years ago that was a legitimate claim.
maybe Clemson was the exception, but I always felt like we were just as fast as SEC teams when we played them.
Georgia narrowly wins on the road over a middle tier team. "Oh what poise and focus!" Clemson narrowly wins on the road over a middle tier team. "I guess they really aren't that good."
I just had a conversation last week with a co-worker where he said the idea of Tajh Boyd being a) a Heisman contender or b) a legit NFL prospect was ludicrous. "Who does he play for? Clemson? Pfft. Clemson's no good."
I want to add that I do think Tennessee is better than NCSU, though not by a whole lot. And I know UGA is battling through some crucial injuries, but it is frustrating that sports media can't focus on this season and what is actually happening. Its understandable how casual fans would rely on past years perceptions as a basis for opinion, but those in the know should be better than that because it really does have an effect on the outcome of the season for a lot of teams.
You're just too young to grasp how stylin' I really was. All the boys wanted to do me when I was 5. Actually the girls did too. My haircut was confusing.
Post by billypilgrim on Oct 8, 2013 16:40:49 GMT -5
The Cal Bears have the best college football team in the country right now -- at least according to the coaches' poll. Unless you're talking about American Football, where they have 1 win and it's not even against an FBS school. It's hard to win a lot of games when you're giving up 6.77 yards/carry, rank 121 out of 123 FBS teams in team defense, and have one of the toughest schedules in the country.
Think about that - 6.77 yards per carry.
Edit: And don't even get me started on the Bears' perennial dominance in intercollegiate rugby, with 26 national championships in 32 years.
Update: "If we have another run-pass situation, I'd do the same thing," Davis told reporters Monday. "If the DB's loafing, he deserves to get cut."
"It was crazy," Davis added. "I think people blew it out of proportion and took it too far. It really wasn't that bad."
As a consolation, Texas plays Oklahoma this week. If they f*ck it up, it would certainly be a time that Texas would boot Brown legendary Texas coach or not.
Apparently, the whole Clowney saga was just a big misunderstanding. He is totes injured for sure.
I feel bad for Clowney. Everyone in the country thinks he is lying when there's no reason to really think that. Just because people want to hate on him, or hate his coach/school they decide "he's faking it."
The guy is hurting his draft stock by not playing, so the idea that he's saving himself for the NFL is mislead, also.
Post by Mista Don't Play on Oct 9, 2013 6:58:46 GMT -5
Assuming he isn't actually injured, I don't approve of his approach to this season, but I am more than impressed by Spurrier's comments yesterday. That was pretty awesome.
I feel bad for Clowney. Everyone in the country thinks he is lying when there's no reason to really think that. Just because people want to hate on him, or hate his coach/school they decide "he's faking it."
The guy is hurting his draft stock by not playing, so the idea that he's saving himself for the NFL is mislead, also.
He may very well be legitimately injured. I am sure some people are jumping on him because they hate SC, Spurrier, Clowney, the SEC or whatever, but it really seems like there is some weird sh*t going on down there. He gets built up in the offseason (which was not his doing). He disappoints the first game. It comes out he had a stomach flu. He disappoints again. It comes out he has bone spurs in his foot. Now, he has bruised ribs (which I understand can actually be really painful and obstruct your ability to breathe), but he was going to play Saturday. He gets scratched right before the game, and neither the head coach nor the defensive coordinator say they knew anything about it beforehand. Spurrier comes out and says some harsh stuff against him then backs off the next day touting what Clowney has done for the program. Like approo said, these recent comments are the most interesting.
Assuming he isn't actually injured, I don't approve of his approach to this season, but I am more than impressed by Spurrier's comments yesterday. That was pretty awesome.
I guess my point is, why are we assuming he's not really injured? Having played a similar position, the torque put on your obliques when you try to turn the corner on a pass rush would be excruciating if he had a rib injury.
Is there credible sources saying he's faking it? Or is it just the "the coaches didn't know he wasn't playing" miscommunication thing?
I just see this happen every year. The media/fans build some guy up to be an X-Men level freak of nature, then any single bump in the road they pounce. They build people up with, at least from my POV, the sole purpose being to tear them back down. It happened with Quinton Coples, who was the #1 overall rated player before his senior season, then he went and played out of position the entire year because half of his team got suspended (Marvin Austin among them - who Coples had to relocate on the DL to replace) and all you heard about was his lack of production, how he wasn't happy (who would be happy seeing their teammates suspended in their senior year?) and so on. And Coples didn't even have 1/100th of the notoriety that Clowney does, so it's even more ridiculous. I mean, Clowney's laughing at questions there because they're so repetitive.
I dunno, this seems like more of a situation where things are over analyzed, then people over analyze the over analyzation and we're left thinking a guy who will be a perennial double-digit sack monster isn't as good as he is because he didn't live up to other people's absurd expectations.
this is how you want your star player to act... not like Clowney, who is all about himself. Tajh Boyd is what makes college football great.
Has it been tough for you being the guy and the face of the program? Boyd: Not at all, I am enjoying it. This is one of those deals where it is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Even at the next level, you may be the face of a franchise but it is not as significant as being the face of a university or a program because you are exploited much more. So, I am just trying to take everything in stride and enjoy it. I have only got so much time left so I am just trying to make the most out of it.
There is a lot of money to be made at the next level and you are projected to be a high round draft pick and there is a lot said these days about players protecting themselves. We see you diving across the goal line when Clemson is up 20 points, does that ever enter your mind that you need to protect yourself? Boyd: To an extent but not to the point where it is more important that this program. If I was not going to give everything that I have when I step out on that field then there is no use for me to be out on the field. That is why you have insurance policies, right? I think if something that significant happened, my family would be covered. For me, my main goal is to lead this team and do everything I possibly can for us to win the game. If it is to throw the ball 40 times or run the ball 40 times, whatever it takes, no questions asked. I think it depends on the player but my mentality, and the way that I have been shaped and molded, is that every time you step out on that field you give everything you have go
Clowney gives answers that are almost exactly the same, except Clowney is facing a media trying to cut his legs out from under him and Boyd is facing a media looking to slurp him.
this is how you want your star player to act... not like Clowney, who is all about himself. Tajh Boyd is what makes college football great.
Has it been tough for you being the guy and the face of the program? Boyd: Not at all, I am enjoying it. This is one of those deals where it is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Even at the next level, you may be the face of a franchise but it is not as significant as being the face of a university or a program because you are exploited much more. So, I am just trying to take everything in stride and enjoy it. I have only got so much time left so I am just trying to make the most out of it.
There is a lot of money to be made at the next level and you are projected to be a high round draft pick and there is a lot said these days about players protecting themselves. We see you diving across the goal line when Clemson is up 20 points, does that ever enter your mind that you need to protect yourself? Boyd: To an extent but not to the point where it is more important that this program. If I was not going to give everything that I have when I step out on that field then there is no use for me to be out on the field. That is why you have insurance policies, right? I think if something that significant happened, my family would be covered. For me, my main goal is to lead this team and do everything I possibly can for us to win the game. If it is to throw the ball 40 times or run the ball 40 times, whatever it takes, no questions asked. I think it depends on the player but my mentality, and the way that I have been shaped and molded, is that every time you step out on that field you give everything you have go
Some NFL is going to be very pleased when they pick him in the draft.
Clowney gives answers that are almost exactly the same, except Clowney is facing a media trying to cut his legs out from under him and Boyd is facing a media looking to slurp him.
Clowney gives answers that are almost exactly the same, except Clowney is facing a media trying to cut his legs out from under him and Boyd is facing a media looking to slurp him.
Clowney is a big super talented baby.
It is staggering to me (repeat: staggering) that pillow-soft middle-aged men can call a athletic specimen such as Clowney a "baby" for sitting out with an injury. Do you think turf toe is a soft injury as well? Obliques/rib cage injuries are one of the most debilitating upper-body injuries a football player can get. You can't breathe, you can't twist, you can't win the leverage battle. It's a terrible thing to deal with, especially for a guy who is being asked to throw around 300 pound bodies and get to the QB. And you never know if you're truly recovered from it until you try to do those things, which is what lead to Clowney being ruled out.
The old days of "rub some dirt on it and toughen up, you sissy" are over, Sang. And it's laughable for you call someone a baby or anything along those lines because they aren't playing in a college football game.
It is staggering to me (repeat: staggering) that pillow-soft middle-aged men can call a athletic specimen such as Clowney a "baby" for sitting out with an injury. Do you think turf toe is a soft injury as well? Obliques/rib cage injuries are one of the most debilitating upper-body injuries a football player can get. You can't breathe, you can't twist, you can't win the leverage battle. It's a terrible thing to deal with, especially for a guy who is being asked to throw around 300 pound bodies and get to the QB. And you never know if you're truly recovered from it until you try to do those things, which is what lead to Clowney being ruled out.
The old days of "rub some dirt on it and toughen up, you sissy" are over, Sang. And it's laughable for you call someone a baby or anything along those lines because they aren't playing in a college football game.
no one even knew was injured. he just told them right before the game started that he wasn't playing. you don't do that. the qb on his team was supposed to be out up to 4 weeks, he got in there and worked his ass off and still played and said he won't miss another game.
]no one even knew was injured. he just told them right before the game started that he wasn't playing. you don't do that. the qb on his team was supposed to be out up to 4 weeks, he got in there and worked his ass off and still played and said he won't miss another game.
He hurt it during the previous week's game, then made it worse practicing when he should've been treating it. Probably to shut up mouth breathers such as yourself who would chastise him for sitting out a football game because the interchangeable parts are irrelevant as long as the tradition and whatever-the-f*ck-else is upheld. It's embarrassing to watch adults go after a KID (yes, all 6'5" and 240 pounds of Jadeveon Clowney are still a kid, relatively speaking) because you don't like the school he plays for. It's even more embarrassing to watch professional analysts and commentators do it. But hey, rivalries and all that, amirite?
Shaw was supposed to be out two, maybe three weeks (not four) and was throwing passes the Monday after his injury. Please tell me the relevance of a QB's shoulder injury compared to the rib injury of a DE/OLB type?
Please tell me the relevance of a QB's shoulder injury compared to the rib injury of a DE/OLB type?
As usual, I can generally understand your line of reasoning even if I disagree with it and/or the tone you us (love you though, flanzie bear), but are you really asking how a DE/OLB's injury which limits their ability to do the base function of their job on the field relates to a quarterback hurting his throwing shoulder (Shaw is a rightie.)?
No, I realize that Shaw had hurt his throwing shoulder. I'm saying what relevance does Sang's misquote and Doctor Steve Spurrier's premature prognosis have to do with anything? That 2-3 weeks came from a sideline spot-check. Sang obviously brought it up to say Clowney is a p*ssy because some other guy played hurt. But the other guy didn't miss a practice, so he wasn't that hurt, and Clowney hasn't practiced this week yet, so he clearly is hurt.
Unless you subscribe to the incredibly iron-clad and well-supported "he's just faking it and trying to sit out his senior season!!" theory.
No, I realize that Shaw had hurt his throwing shoulder. I'm saying what relevance does Sang's misquote and Doctor Steve Spurrier's premature prognosis have to do with anything? That 2-3 weeks came from a sideline spot-check. Sang obviously brought it up to say Clowney is a p*ssy because some other guy played hurt. But the other guy didn't miss a practice, so he wasn't that hurt, and Clowney hasn't practiced this week yet, so he clearly is hurt.
Unless you subscribe to the incredibly iron-clad and well-supported "he's just faking it and trying to sit out his senior season!!" theory.
Gotcha. I thought you were trying to say there was no parallel in general, and I got really confused.
Like I said earlier, I don't know the real extent of the guy's injuries, but things just seem odd down there.