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You guys, whoever this is, and I could care less at this point, is going to win if we tear each other apart. For some reason known only to them, they want us at each others throats. I refuse to play.
Post by ☮ superbek ☮ on Apr 6, 2011 15:27:18 GMT -5
No apology necessary roofan... just sharing raw and immediate reactions.
ITM, I agree to some extent but the thing is that Josh IS a real person and every persona he has created has represented some aspect of his personality both good and bad. Also, you say jokes are not alright at the expense of others but everyone is making fun of Josh... how do two wrongs make a right? What if Josh isn't behind all of this, then what?
Anyone who is seriously offended by him should be the bigger person, no? ???
I would just like to say that I was a "target" of gking/salamander when all of that was going on and I am also a long time board buddy of NBF.
With that being said, I think Josh is just misunderstood... he is actually a pretty decent guy and Hilari is great, too. Josh just gets his kicks from the internet, he just doesn't take it as seriously as you all do and who are we to say something is wrong with that? I thought he was crazy at first myself and now I know he is just being funny so the best advice I can offer is.... laugh. Jokes are funny.
Besides that, I mean there is a slight double standard here... I mean juggs is an ass and you all love him. I can't say the same myself (nothing personal, juggs) as juggs is the reason that I don't go to the troo music lounge like, ever. However, I don't think Josh has ever caused even one individual to cease posting on any area of the board. Perspective people.... it's all about perspective.
Regardless of whether that was 5 minutes later or 5 months later, he is still a scrawny, be-speckeled, pastyass white boy. Dreads will never look good on that!
Mods... you guys really do a great job around here but it does cause serious sadness to my heart to see a mod whom I lean on for support bashing someone no matter what their previous history with each other may be especially while demonstrating a complete lack of disrespect to his gf who has nothing to do with any of this. NBF cannot control what Josh does or does not do but it seems that her feelings have been side stepped by people she considers to be her friend... where is the compassion, people?
Where is the compassion for her boyfriend that pretended to be a wounded Afghanistan vet, and played around with peoples emotions and lives? It does not exist, at least not from me.
1 Ryanhashton joins, immediately sends me vile PM's 4 posts in so obviously not really a noob.
2 He runs to roofan because I am a bully, because he hates us both and would love to see us fight
3 Chris and I talk on the phone about IP proxies, this is all he is using. Why hide your real IP? Because NBF also uses your computer it is how you got caught last time.
4 New account I go on vacation and do not deal with it, come back and the guy is playing mind games with the board trying to start hate between friends.
5 We leave it alone for awhile to get his list of proxies to ban.
6 Today I thought he really might cause some serious trouble and confusion so I outed him again. (Score Jess 2 Josh 0).
I am not going to tell you exactly how I knew Hilari but these were things that made me suspicious of what was going on. Also lets be fair who else is going to do this, and knows enough about the different people on here to play this game, along with being filled with an irrational hatred of me and roofan? This has been proven to the mods satisfaction and while maybe it would not stand up in court you do not have to be that smart to figure it out either.
Once again I have no problem at all with you, but EVEN IF I AM WRONG (I am not) when someone comes on here and does these things who are we in all fairness going to assume is behind it? Josh likes to play games, and he got gamed this time.
ITM, I agree to some extent but the thing is that Josh IS a real person and every persona he has created has represented some aspect of his personality both good and bad.
The thing is.....he doesn't portray it like that. He creates new personas to trick people into believing they are different people. It's similar to guys who go into a chat room for lesbians and pretend to be a girl. When he's doing it to screw with people and troll posts and derail discussions and topics on message boards just so he can create some drama it starts to seem much different than just "creating personas to represent and aspect of his personality".
Also, you say jokes are not alright at the expense of others but everyone is making fun of Josh... how do two wrongs make a right? What if Josh isn't behind all of this, then what?
Not everyone is making fun of Josh. Some are criticizing his actions (rightfully so) and while others are making some comments about his hair or other personal things, it doesn't change what he did.
I'm not making fun of the guy. I'm genuinely annoyed that someone who I spent time conversing with wasn't doing it to have a real conversation.......they were doing it to annoy, distract, and create problems.
Anyone who is seriously offended by him should be the bigger person, no? ???
Nobody Not everybody is offended by him. People don't trust him and don't like being screwed with for the purpose of making him laugh.
edit: btw bek - have no problem with you and you're totally fine for voicing your opinions and asking questions. I just felt like responding to you and your comments. no beef with you or NBF or anything
Post by NothingButFlowers on Apr 6, 2011 15:46:27 GMT -5
Jesse, do you really think that Josh is the first person to go on message boards and try to start Leno? There's a reason there's a name for it. Or that he's the first person to use proxies? Doubtful, since it was a certain other former member of this very board who told him about the sites to get proxy ip addresses (for the record, as far as I know, Josh has never used one of those sites, but yes, he does know they exist because of that poster). Also, if you are so certain this is Josh, can you explain to me how he was posting from an in-flight airplane? And yes, we both absolutely know that you are going to believe that this and every other troll on a message board is Josh. Do you think that bothers him?
Jesse, do you really think that Josh is the first person to go on message boards and try to start Leno? There's a reason there's a name for it. Or that he's the first person to use proxies? Doubtful, since it was a certain other former member of this very board who told him about the sites to get proxy ip addresses. Also, if you are so certain this is Josh, can you explain to me how he was posting from an in-flight airplane? And yes, we both absolutely know that you are going to believe that this and every other troll on a message board is Josh. Do you think that bothers him?
I told there is another way to know, but I will be damned if tell him so he can get around it next time. Also there are not a lot of people who do it the exact same way to the same people over and over again are there?
Also that is bullshit I called it last time and I was right this is the next time I even brought him up because it is fucking obvious.
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Jesse, do you really think that Josh is the first person to go on message boards and try to start Leno? There's a reason there's a name for it. Or that he's the first person to use proxies? Doubtful, since it was a certain other former member of this very board who told him about the sites to get proxy ip addresses. Also, if you are so certain this is Josh, can you explain to me how he was posting from an in-flight airplane? And yes, we both absolutely know that you are going to believe that this and every other troll on a message board is Josh. Do you think that bothers him?
I told there is another way to know, but I will be damned if tell him so he can get around it next time. Also there are not a lot of people who do it the exact same way to the same people over and over again are there?
I told there is another way to know, but I will be damned if tell him so he can get around it next time. Also there are not a lot of people who do it the exact same way to the same people over and over again are there?
And the airplane?
Don't know or care. Also really how many times did I come out and accuse people of being him? I do not care at all if it was him or someone exactly like him, either way this is the bed he made for himself last time he did it. When a bank gets robbed you don't look for car jackers, you look for bank robbers.
edit: btw bek - have no problem with you and you're totally fine for voicing your opinions and asking questions. I just felt like responding to you and your comments. no beef with you or NBF or anything
I told there is another way to know, but I will be damned if tell him so he can get around it next time. Also there are not a lot of people who do it the exact same way to the same people over and over again are there?
And the airplane?
They have internet on airplanes as well as being able to post from cell phones now.
I'm not saying that's what happened. I'm saying that it's possible.
Post by pondo ROCKS on Apr 6, 2011 15:56:11 GMT -5
Wow...
I supposed THIS is what is wrong with Inforoo? Man, somehow, ONCE AGAIN, a thread got WAYYYY off track. Imagine that....took longer than expected. I owe someone a beer.
Is all of this helping? Is one person being accused or not accused making the situation better? This truly is becoming worse than the original problem stated....
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Don't know or care. Also really how many times did I come out and accuse people of being him? I do not care at all if it was him or someone exactly like him, either way this is the bed he made for himself last time he did it. When a bank gets robbed you don't look for car jackers, you look for bank robbers.
So, you went from being 99.9% sure it's him and feeling like you needed to make a big deal out of outing him to saying that you don't care if it was him at all?
You're right, Jesse, you haven't accused a bunch of people of being him, but you have said several times today that you are going to believe that people who act like this are Josh. So, that's why I said what I did about him knowing that you are going to think all trolls are him.
They have internet on airplanes as well as being able to post from cell phones now.
I'm not saying that's what happened. I'm saying that it's possible.
The American Airlines flights that I've been on recently don't have internet, and even if they did, Josh doesn't have a laptop. As far as posting from cell phones, you can only have your cell phone on in "airplane mode," and I assume that means you can't access the internet from it, although I don't know for certain. Regardless, I don't think either of us knows how to put our phone into airplane mode.
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Don't know or care. Also really how many times did I come out and accuse people of being him? I do not care at all if it was him or someone exactly like him, either way this is the bed he made for himself last time he did it. When a bank gets robbed you don't look for car jackers, you look for bank robbers.
So, you went from being 99.9% sure it's him and feeling like you needed to make a big deal out of outing him to saying that you don't care if it was him at all?
You're right, Jesse, you haven't accused a bunch of people of being him, but you have said several times today that you are going to believe that people who act like this are Josh. So, that's why I said what I did about him knowing that you are going to think all trolls are him.
They have internet on airplanes as well as being able to post from cell phones now.
I'm not saying that's what happened. I'm saying that it's possible.
The American Airlines flights that I've been on recently don't have internet, and even if they did, Josh doesn't have a laptop. As far as posting from cell phones, you can only have your cell phone on in "airplane mode," and I assume that means you can't access the internet from it, although I don't know for certain. Regardless, I don't think either of us knows how to put our phone into airplane mode.
One more time I do not how, I just know who. What I do not care about is the how. What I do care about is the who, and like I said I am 99.9% sure on it. Also like I said it was pretty obvious, when for instance he sent me a almost word for word identical vile PM to one that one of his other personas sent to me. He should really change that up at some point, or it will be even easier next time.
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edit: btw bek - have no problem with you and you're totally fine for voicing your opinions and asking questions. I just felt like responding to you and your comments. no beef with you or NBF or anything
ditto... nothing more than open dialouge.
Bek, thanks for the things you've said!
ITM, and I also have no beef with you. From what I've seen of you on here, it sometimes seen to me that you like to play devil's advocate and get all the sides out in the open. Not even saying that's necessarily what you are doing here, but regardless, I don't mind discussing the situation. I don't remember if you were around much for it, but I've never tried to defend what Josh did in the past. He and I had several disagreements about whether he might have been crossing lines sometimes. But that is the past, and this is not Josh.
This is so ridiculous. Listen to NBF and superbek, they are the only ones here with some sense. Dr. Teeth, you have no idea what you're doing. You obviously don't know how to figure this out. I swear I am not josh. NBF has come up with many reasons to support that. Your problem is, you have a really hard time admitting you're wrong. You and roofan talked on the phone about this? Haha wow. Someone is taking this way overboard. You've actually been tracking me? I am not surprised. But your methods of tracking are a joke. You've done nothing but make a fool of yourself. Superbek, Thank you for trying to put some sense in these people. All the time everyone is telling me to stop taking it so seriously, and there are people here who have been hunting me for a week, and talking on the phone about me. Wow.
The American Airlines flights that I've been on recently don't have internet, and even if they did, Josh doesn't have a laptop. As far as posting from cell phones, you can only have your cell phone on in "airplane mode," and I assume that means you can't access the internet from it, although I don't know for certain. Regardless, I don't think either of us knows how to put our phone into airplane mode.
Fair enough. Just threw the possibility out there since it's not so uncommon to be able to access the internet when traveling nowadays.
ITM, and I also have no beef with you. From what I've seen of you on here, it sometimes seen to me that you like to play devil's advocate and get all the sides out in the open. Not even saying that's necessarily what you are doing here, but regardless, I don't mind discussing the situation. I don't remember if you were around much for it, but I've never tried to defend what Josh did in the past. He and I had several disagreements about whether he might have been crossing lines sometimes. But that is the past, and this is not Josh.
I was around the last time he was screwing with people (salamander/g king) but don't know too much about the situation before that. I do like to play devil's advocate and do try to see both sides of most situations. I just feel that in this one.....IF he was pretending to be ryanhashton and/or bonnapoo just to mess with people then it's just one of those things that really bug me. I have little tolerance for screwing with people and creating drama/problems just for your own enjoyment.
I do not care at all if it was him or someone exactly like him
I am not going to start a fight with you, and I do not care if you believe it or not. You are always going to defend your boyfriend and you have that right, but it is pretty obvious exactly what was going on as well. Also yes American certainly does offer internet on their flights.
NOOOOOO - not something I want to think about - he's a lawyer - they are not human and should NEVER be thought of naked!!
ETS - I was in the middle of reading this thread - went to click on page 9 and all of a sudden could not access it because the thread got moved - not fair I say - not fair!! It confused me for a second!
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This is so ridiculous. Listen to NBF and superbek, they are the only ones here with some sense. Dr. Teeth, you have no idea what you're doing. You obviously don't know how to figure this out. I swear I am not josh. NBF has come up with many reasons to support that. Your problem is, you have a really hard time admitting you're wrong. You and roofan talked on the phone about this? Haha wow. Someone is taking this way overboard. You've actually been tracking me? I am not surprised. But your methods of tracking are a joke. You've done nothing but make a fool of yourself. Superbek, Thank you for trying to put some sense in these people. All the time everyone is telling me to stop taking it so seriously, and there are people here who have been hunting me for a week, and talking on the phone about me. Wow.
Bonnapoo......you definitely going to Roo this year? If you're not any of these people I'd like to meet you down there and buy you a beer and share a laugh. Also, have you been to Roo before?
I am not going to start a fight with you, and I do not care if you believe it or not. You are always going to defend your boyfriend and you have that right, but it is pretty obvious exactly what was going on as well. Also yes American certainly does offer internet on their flights.
Yep, and if you look at the flights it's offered on, you'll see that it's not offered on any of the flights from Knoxville to Dallas or Dallas to Reno, which were the flights he was on. And again, he doesn't have a laptop.
Post by Del Griffith on Apr 6, 2011 16:34:47 GMT -5
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man, i can't wait for bassnectar's set at roo this year!!!!!!!!!11!11111111!
did i post this in the correct thread??
oh man, who thinks he's gonna close out the which stage on friday night??
i say we start a massive glow stick war during a day set. maybe during robert plant and boj??
who's wearing a costume this year during the late nights?? me!!
should i bring dry ice for my cooler?? i dunno. maybe i'll just buy 5-6 bags of ice and hope it doesn't melt before the weekend's over. it won't bee to hott down there will it??
I am not going to start a fight with you, and I do not care if you believe it or not. You are always going to defend your boyfriend and you have that right, but it is pretty obvious exactly what was going on as well. Also yes American certainly does offer internet on their flights.
Yep, and if you look at the flights it's offered on, you'll see that it's not offered on any of the flights from Knoxville to Dallas or Dallas to Reno, which were the flights he was on. And again, he doesn't have a laptop.
I am not going to start a fight with you, and I do not care if you believe it or not. You are always going to defend your boyfriend and you have that right, but it is pretty obvious exactly what was going on as well. Also yes American certainly does offer internet on their flights.
Yep, and if you look at the flights it's offered on, you'll see that it's not offered on any of the flights from Knoxville to Dallas or Dallas to Reno, which were the flights he was on. And again, he doesn't have a laptop.
Nicely done! Finally Dr. Teeth is being exposed as the not so intelligent person that he thinks he is.