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Well, there's the fact that they are from London and make music that's most famously associated with the American south. But I won't go there since one of the greatest and most authentic folk bands ever (Fairport Convention) were also from London.
My main gripe is with their lyrics. If you listen closely to the words, the lyrics are not based on the traditional storytelling (or slight variations on traditional stories) that most "folk" music employs. Their lyrics are totally bastardized versions of these stories, always coming back to the same few images--a heart or courage or a storm (or something quite similar). Those images can be fine to use because they are universally understood symbols. However, on their debut album, Mumford and Sons suck all the life out of these images with flat-out lazy songwriting. They rely too heavily on images like the aforementioned ones instead of utilizing them, if that makes sense.
In my opinion, they're more style than substance. They've got a banjo or two and they were civil-war costumes, but the lyrics, in my opinion, are nothing more than vapid and their musicianship is just passable.
Not hating on people for liking them, that's just my opinion of them, since you asked. And I definitely think they have the potential to get better with time.
I like Mumford & Sons, but I definitely see where you're coming from here. This has some pretty valid points.
No.....it's like waiting to see what the score is after the game.
Which, to me, is impossible. Especially if it was a big game and you have the ability to watch it.
Right....but if watching the game bothers you so much (like watching the lineup released one at a time throughout the day bothered so many) then just choose not to watch it ;D
Post by Dr. Emmett Lathrop Brown on Jan 24, 2011 15:22:28 GMT -5
Not exactly headliner speculation, but the Bonnaroo facebook just posted a video of Wanda and Jack White. Thinking this helps our chances of getting them.
"I mean, Led Zeppelin didn't write tunes everybody liked. They left that to the Bee Gees." "this whole situation has just turned his whole life upside down face."
2012: RHCP, Phish, Beach Boys, Aziz, The Roots, Alice Cooper, Superjam, Blackstar, The Word, Luda, Flogging Molly, Spectrum Road, Umphrey's, Black Lips, Gary Clark Jr., Ivan Neville's Dumpstaphunk, Trampled By Turtles
This is the first message board I've ever been on, the only reason I joined is because I love Bonnaroo and wanted to read and talk about it all year long.
Not exactly headliner speculation, but the Bonnaroo facebook just posted a video of Wanda and Jack White. Thinking this helps our chances of getting them.
Cool man. Some of us feel the same way. But if it's not headliner speculation......then why post it in the headliner speculation thread? ??? ???
^I bet they are an act this year, it just makes a lot of sense. Have our Country Legend and a taste of Jack on guitar. It is the kind of thing Bonnaroo usually does. I do not know anything concrete, I just have hunch.
^I bet they are an act this year, it just makes a lot of sense. Have our Country Legend and a taste of Jack on guitar. It is the kind of thing Bonnaroo usually does. I do not know anything concrete, I just have hunch.
Unless some surprise Raconteurs or Dead Weather album comes out, I'd agree that this would likely be the show that Jack White brings to the farm (if he is there this year).
"I mean, Led Zeppelin didn't write tunes everybody liked. They left that to the Bee Gees." "this whole situation has just turned his whole life upside down face."
2012: RHCP, Phish, Beach Boys, Aziz, The Roots, Alice Cooper, Superjam, Blackstar, The Word, Luda, Flogging Molly, Spectrum Road, Umphrey's, Black Lips, Gary Clark Jr., Ivan Neville's Dumpstaphunk, Trampled By Turtles
^I bet they are an act this year, it just makes a lot of sense. Have our Country Legend and a taste of Jack on guitar. It is the kind of thing Bonnaroo usually does. I do not know anything concrete, I just have hunch.
Unless some surprise Raconteurs or Dead Weather album comes out, I'd agree that this would likely be the show that Jack White brings to the farm (if he is there this year).
No 'surprise' Raconteurs or DW album will be coming out. Although a surprise White Stripes album wouldn't really..surprise me that much. I'm still hunching on that. Possibly even as a last minute announcement. Like the day they are playing announce it on bonnaroo radio or something. I don't know if 'roo has ever done that, but I think that would be epic.
Post by spaceghost on Jan 24, 2011 16:00:48 GMT -5
I feel like a White Stripes reunion show would be way too big for Bonnaroo to leave as a secret show. It would sell too many tickets not to announce it.
This is the first message board I've ever been on, the only reason I joined is because I love Bonnaroo and wanted to read and talk about it all year long.
Unless some surprise Raconteurs or Dead Weather album comes out, I'd agree that this would likely be the show that Jack White brings to the farm (if he is there this year).
No 'surprise' Raconteurs or DW album will be coming out.
lol how do you know? The last Raconteurs album was a complete surprise and people only heard about it one week before it was released.
I don't think it will happen..........but it's also not impossible.
Hangout Fest's (May 20-22 in Gulf Shores, AL) lineup hasn't been announced but it looks like The Raconteurs will play there. If this is true, I don't see why they couldn't be at Bonnaroo too.
^Also I think the one of the Third Man House band members is also with the Rac's, no reason to not have both. This album is being heavily covered in Nashville, and like I said I just have a feeling it is what we will get. It is a killer show however, I would probably make it back over there.
I honestly believe that a White Stripes reunion is way more plausible than Raconteurs or Dead Weather putting out another album.
1. All parts of each band are currently working on their other bands. 2. Jack has been way to busy with other projects. 3. Jack hinted he was ready to get back in the studio with Meg.
Anyways, I just feel like if there's anywhere for a Jack and Meg reuinion...it will be at Bonnaroo.
I honestly believe that a White Stripes reunion is way more plausible than Raconteurs or Dead Weather putting out another album.
1. All parts of each band are currently working on their other bands. 2. Jack has been way to busy with other projects. 3. Jack hinted he was ready to get back in the studio with Meg.
Anyways, I just feel like if there's anywhere for a Jack and Meg reuinion...it will be at Bonnaroo.
You're leaving out the part about how White Stripes need Meg to perform and nobody knows if she's ready yet. Apparently she was having some anxiety issues or something along those lines last time. I don't think WS, Raconteurs, or DW will be at Bonnaroo.....but I am hoping Jack White is.
Yes she HAD anxiety issues...which is why they canceled tour dates at the end of 07. So they had a break.
In an interview with Vanity Fair back in November Jack was quoted as saying,
“We thought we’d do a lot of things that we’d never done: a full tour of Canada, a documentary, coffee-table book, live album, a boxed set. It was one long project that took almost three years. Now that we’ve gotten a lot of that out of our system, Meg and I can get back in the studio and start fresh.”
Indicating that Meg is over her anxiety. I know it's not solid evidence that they will DEFINITELY be back in the studio together...but the fact that he mentioned it I think at least says something.
I'm still agreeing with the majority that if Jack is on the farm it it will most likely be with Wanda Jackson. But my main point is, IF there was a White Stripes reuinion this year...Bonnaroo would be the place to do it.
EDIT: Here's a link to the interview, forgot to include it.
Does anyone know when the lineup is actually going to come out? And are they going to do it on Myspace again like they did last year?
I was going to defend the way they released the lineup last year, but the more I think about it the more I just want them to release a good old fashioned poster. I don't think my heart could take another one of those Myspace releases.
What was it? Every 15 minutes for 6 hours? No thanks. I had that polka music stuck in my head for 2 weeks.
I think it was 1 band every 5 mins but I could be mistaken. I enjoyed it tho, I was looking up bands I hadn't heard of inbetween releases...and it still gives you time to root for that 1 band you're really hoping to see!!!
BTW...I'm just going to throw this out there for a crazy cool metal late night show...either Iron Maiden or Dragonforce??
Indicating that Meg is over her anxiety. I know it's not solid evidence that they will DEFINITELY be back in the studio together...but the fact that he mentioned it I think at least says something.
All that quote says to be is that she may be able to go into the studio to record. Doesn't say anything about being over her anxiety playing in front of live audiences (which was the problem originally - not anxiety about recording material in a studio). And keep in mind this is Jack talking....who knows if Meg agrees with what he's saying.
I was going to defend the way they released the lineup last year, but the more I think about it the more I just want them to release a good old fashioned poster. I don't think my heart could take another one of those Myspace releases.
What was it? Every 15 minutes for 6 hours? No thanks. I had that polka music stuck in my head for 2 weeks.
I think it was 1 band every 5 mins but I could be mistaken. I enjoyed it tho, I was looking up bands I hadn't heard of inbetween releases...and it still gives you time to root for that 1 band you're really hoping to see!!!
BTW...I'm just going to throw this out there for a crazy cool metal late night show...either Iron Maiden or Dragonforce??
Dragonforce...meh. Never seen them live or anything...but I can see a lot of other bands having a much better late night show.
But honestly, if Iron Maiden were there I would imagine they would be a headliner. Maybe thats just me, but IM is pretty huge.
Post by kellyclarkson on Jan 24, 2011 18:33:20 GMT -5
Artists/Bands usually play at the festivals around the time a new album is going to be released. I don't think anyone has mentioned this band, but Incubus (my ALL-TIME FAV.) is set to put a new album out in 2011. Also, Deadmau5 said he'd put one out this year shortly after he released 4x4=12. But idk about DM5 since he played almost all the major festivals last year.
I would kill to see Incubus and Massive Attack play at the same festival.
All that quote says to be is that she may be able to go into the studio to record. Doesn't say anything about being over her anxiety playing in front of live audiences (which was the problem originally - not anxiety about recording material in a studio). And keep in mind this is Jack talking....who knows if Meg agrees with what he's saying.
There definitely was an interview in which Jack emphatically stated that Meg was completely over the anxiety. I could probably find it on the internet, but I'm way too tired right now, maybe later.
Artists/Bands usually play at the festivals around the time a new album is going to be released. I don't think anyone has mentioned this band, but Incubus (my ALL-TIME FAV.) is set to put a new album out in 2011. Also, Deadmau5 said he'd put one out this year shortly after he released 4x4=12. But idk about DM5 since he played almost all the major festivals last year.
I would kill to see Incubus and Massive Attack play at the same festival.
Well, let's hope that Incubus and Massive Attack are not on the bill, don't want a murder over a music festival.
Deadmau5 won't be back, I'd imagine. I'm guessing we'll see Paul van Dyk and/or the Chemical Brothers for the big electronic late nights, given that they're playing Coachella. I would still love to see the Prodigy, though.