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No but I go see as much or more live music than anyone you are likely to meet, and I know what I like. Even if I did like them I would not let my fanboy crushes take over my brain and make me think they would be an unopposed headliner or that they are a more "valuable" band for a festival than U2.
They are easily as big as the fourth option Sang. Definitely fit into the second option when you put it in those terms though.
so nin and arcade fire are playing at the same time...which band gets the bigger stage? or... nin and arcade fire go on tour together, which one plays last? they're not as big as nin. if/when nin comes back they are right back in arenas, like they have been for 20 years. af just got there.
Post by awolfatthedoor on Jan 23, 2011 21:11:58 GMT -5
What the f are you talking about sangreal? Why do you hate Arcade Fire so much? One of these all you haters are going to recognize the truth! Some day in the not so distant future people are going to realize they're better than most of the bands on that list. Would you rather have some talentless hack like Springsteen or some band that's just peaking now?
They are easily as big as the fourth option Sang. Definitely fit into the second option when you put it in those terms though.
so nin and arcade fire are playing at the same time...which band gets the bigger stage? or... nin and arcade fire go on tour together, which one plays last? they're not as big as nin. if/when nin comes back they are right back in arenas, like they have been for 20 years. af just got there.
Post by theshining on Jan 23, 2011 21:14:15 GMT -5
Longevity usually will dictate who opens and who closes a shared bill so if we were lucky enough to get the very odd paring of NIN and AF then I would say NIN would be top billed. I could also see them sharing the headline duties on a tour together though.
This kind of question makes me remember and shake my head at the time I saw Bowie subheadline for Moby and his massive ego at Area2
so nin and arcade fire are playing at the same time...which band gets the bigger stage? or... nin and arcade fire go on tour together, which one plays last? they're not as big as nin. if/when nin comes back they are right back in arenas, like they have been for 20 years. af just got there.
Right now, Arcade Fire. No hesitation.
What if Trent released a hypothetical new album and toured this summer.
Longevity usually will dictate who opens and who closes a shared bill so if we were lucky enough to get the very odd paring of NIN and AF then I would say NIN would be top billed. I could also see them sharing the headline duties on a tour together though.
This kind of question makes me remember and shake my head at the time I saw Bowie subheadline for Moby and his massive ego at Area2
Post by theshining on Jan 23, 2011 21:17:11 GMT -5
Sadly yes. The year prior at Area1 it was Outkast who subheadlined for him. Needless to say I left quite a bit early both years. Moby is worse than Wayne Coyne for stage ramblings
What the f are you talking about sangreal? Why do you hate Arcade Fire so much? One of these all you haters are going to recognize the truth! Some day in the not so distant future people are going to realize they're better than most of the bands on that list. Would you rather have some talentless hack like Springsteen or some band that's just peaking now?
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
No but I go see as much or more live music than anyone you are likely to meet, and I know what I like. Even if I did like them I would not let my fanboy crushes take over my brain and make me think they would be an unopposed headliner or that they are a more "valuable" band for a festival than U2.
Again you either misunderstanding or twisting my words to fit your current need - what I said in a nutshell was that U2 would be a huge commercial draw and would no doubt sell a ton of tickets but in terms of musical value ( value being defined as the contribution to date or future contributions to the musical landscape ) there is just no comparision - U2 is to Arcade Fire what Andy Warhol is to Salvador Dali - drivel compared to substance - Days of our Lives compared to Deadwood - U2 make money Arcade fire make art.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
so nin and arcade fire are playing at the same time...which band gets the bigger stage? or... nin and arcade fire go on tour together, which one plays last? they're not as big as nin. if/when nin comes back they are right back in arenas, like they have been for 20 years. af just got there.
Right now, Arcade Fire. No hesitation.
you're wrong. this is not about opinions. this isn't about what bands we like or dislike. this is about common sense. nin opening for arcade fire? come on now.
so nin and arcade fire are playing at the same time...which band gets the bigger stage? or... nin and arcade fire go on tour together, which one plays last? they're not as big as nin. if/when nin comes back they are right back in arenas, like they have been for 20 years. af just got there.
No but I go see as much or more live music than anyone you are likely to meet, and I know what I like. Even if I did like them I would not let my fanboy crushes take over my brain and make me think they would be an unopposed headliner or that they are a more "valuable" band for a festival than U2.
Again you either misunderstanding or twisting my words to fit your current need - what I said in a nutshell was that U2 would be a huge commercial draw and would no doubt sell a ton of tickets but in terms of musical value ( value being defined as the contribution to date or future contributions to the musical landscape ) there is just no comparision - U2 is to Arcade Fire what Andy Warhol is to Salvador Dali - drivel compared to substance - Days of our Lives compared to Deadwood - U2 make money Arcade fire make art.
And that is just like your opinion man, one mans Arcade Fire is anothers NickelBack.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
What the f are you talking about sangreal? Why do you hate Arcade Fire so much? One of these all you haters are going to recognize the truth! Some day in the not so distant future people are going to realize they're better than most of the bands on that list. Would you rather have some talentless hack like Springsteen or some band that's just peaking now?
This is the type of sh*t that bothers me when it comes to Arcade Fire. I like AF, but get off your high horse. The fluffing is completely out of control. You think because you believe something that it is the final truth. Music is subjective. Whether or not Arcade Fire is better than anyone is A. Irrelevant and B. An opinion. Almost every year the lower part of the lineup has a band that I think is better than the Headliners. That doesn't make tahr band headline-worthy. Furthermore, acting like just because YOU like a band that scruple one day will believe the same is f*cling stupid. I think Phish is the best band to have ever played Bonnaroo. Does my belief mean that one day you will wake up and agree with me? Of course not. Don't be so arrogant. Music does not end it begin with your opinion.
And for the record, I hate Bruce Springsteen and love Arcade Fire, yet I am willing to admit that not only does Bruce have talent, he has done more for music than Arcade Fire has. Not enjoying an artist doesn't make that artist talentless or worthless. By the same token your enjoyment of an artist doesn't make that artist the best thing going.
The only thing it means is that you have an opinion on the matter. Opinions do not facts make.
Post by gryphonkin on Jan 23, 2011 21:27:09 GMT -5
Again, quality is subjective but even that is irrelevant to who headlines Bonnaroo. I promise you AC only measures quality in one way; butts on the lawn. If they thought Britney Spears' fans would travel and camp, they'd book Britney Spears. I guarantee it. Bonnaroo is a business and from a business standpoint, U2 is safer money than Arcade Fire to top a bill.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
Longevity usually will dictate who opens and who closes a shared bill so if we were lucky enough to get the very odd paring of NIN and AF then I would say NIN would be top billed. I could also see them sharing the headline duties on a tour together though.
This kind of question makes me remember and shake my head at the time I saw Bowie subheadline for Moby and his massive ego at Area2
That's crazy. I saw Moby open for De La Soul two years ago...
Again, quality is subjective but even that is irrelevant to who headlines Bonnaroo. I promise you AC only measures quality in one way; butts on the lawn. If they thought Britney Spears' fans would travel and camp, they'd book Britney Spears. I guarantee it. Bonnaroo is a business and from a business standpoint, U2 is safer money than Arcade Fire to top a bill.
Post by nodepression on Jan 23, 2011 21:30:40 GMT -5
Dammit, just noticed this is the first time they are doing the fest the week of Roo in the past few years. They changed from memorial day weekend, which has Sasquatch/Primavera Sound, to our weekend.
Looks like now we have competition from Isle of Wight and Pink Pop.