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It looks like considerable interest has been raised in your direction, Bacon. I for one am indifferent with your status, but I think we should entertain the idea of a runoff between our current VOTE LEADERS.
Post by indigrainbow on Aug 6, 2010 17:44:06 GMT -5
Out of game, thank you for the smilies Mike.
This is still all throwing me for a loop. But to clarify, without quoting myself for extra fail points, I was trying to make my point that kdogg still looked guiltiest to me. And that I was tying that in with Bek and Bacon. I may be way off base. The problem here is to implicate one person it involves implicating 2 or 3 at the same time. The mafia are obviously working together because that is what they do. Kdogg's arguments first round seemed very suspicious to me, and I didn't think it farfetched that the mafia would decide to off kdogg in the night if he were mafia given what all happened (as has been stated many times over by others). kdogg's guilt doesn't necessarily mean Bek and/or Bacon would have to be mafia. I have no idea how crafty the mafia is being in this game, have no idea who (including me) is being influenced by what, but I do know that this is really ultimately just a guessing game mixed with debate. And by that standard, it is just a guessing game, because no one can know for sure who is innocent unless they are mafia or inspector who has all three names already. So it's just a matter of gut feelings and logical debate after gut feelings are expressed, with whoever debates best having some influence. If they are a townie but wrong, oops! So I have no idea. Like I said, I got lucky last game with my perception of who was mafia and pretty much knew I was lucky as soon as ntrt posted about being inspector. Higgi probably would have fooled me had that not happened, and now this game I am way beyond in over my head. I'm having fun, but I really don't have much to add.
And the last post in question by me was separated by thought processes, I don't think line breaks should be a big weigh in on guilt. Saying a lot of the same thing over and over again, yes, I did do that, because I was trying to cover all bases of what my post would be picked apart as. I was not thinking clearly. I'd really rather not reference specific things because that would be supremely ridiculous, but I naturally have a habit of changing my posting style as far as proper punctuation and caps. If getting into statistics is a bad idea, then getting into English lessons really is. I apologize for the way my post looked, but I was severely disjointed in my head about this whole game and was trying to make what I was trying to express made known. I wasn't trying to contribute to more unnecessary fluff. That having been said, we can come back to this if it needs to be addressed again.
I agree that a run-off would be best this early in the game. I'm still more suspicious of Bacon so my vote stays. I am still suspicious of Bek, but I have to be careful because what I argue for my reason for changing could just as well be argued for her reason for changing.
Except I didn't change my vote after wolf posted asking me to in the thread, which was said before. Yay for more fluff. Just making my entire stance known since my last stance wasn't gathered well enough.
To come back full circle to that post, the main point I was trying to illustrate was:
Those thinking Kdogg to be innocent, who is guilty? Been answered by some already, good. Those thinking him guilty, what is your response to those thinking EDIT: him guilty kdogg innocent? Those that think I'm guilty, throw me in the mix, too, but let's discuss it as I am imploring should be done with the above.
Because I was trying to address that I wasn't trying to ignore that some had been suspicious of me.
Otherwise, what I wanted to say would have not had the part about me in it. I know my innocence and know that with enough information we can find the mafia but with enough misinformation we are doomed. I certainly did not want to be slain as a result of misinformation.
Hope this clarifies.
EDIT above was due to me typing the wrong word and not being clear about what i meant. Before the edit, it made absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Last Edit: Aug 6, 2010 19:08:26 GMT -5 by indigrainbow - Back to Top
Post by indigrainbow on Aug 6, 2010 17:49:43 GMT -5
Ahhh... Yes I did give a reason for my vote for Bacon. I pointed out that it seemed like he was subtly changing to a full blown hands down believing kdogg without any thought. Oh, man. OK! Run-off, then!
Ahhh... Yes I did give a reason for my vote for Bacon. I pointed out that it seemed like he was subtly changing to a full blown hands down believing kdogg without any thought. Oh, man. OK! Run-off, then!
I agree that his following Kdogg without any doubt is suspicious, but it could also be he has a man crush on him.
higgi- I am fine with a run off between bacon and bek. I just think Indi, Bek and Bacon are on my top 3.
Ahhh... Yes I did give a reason for my vote for Bacon. I pointed out that it seemed like he was subtly changing to a full blown hands down believing kdogg without any thought. Oh, man. OK! Run-off, then!
Ok, but I still don't see that anywhere in the post where you voted for bacon.
Post by indigrainbow on Aug 6, 2010 18:05:57 GMT -5
I mean I'm the one that brought up Bacon seeming to subtly change over. It didn't grow to be very suspicious to me of Bacon until after I voted because I was still processing what was going on and only going on hunches. Not that suspicious that early in the game.
By "out of game", I was referencing that this is just a game and I like that everyone seems to be getting along better and that Mike was addressing his concern for people to get along better and not take it so seriously if it was causing animosity towards people and not roles.
Post by ☮ superbek ☮ on Aug 7, 2010 2:41:15 GMT -5
I am writing this as I go through 7 pages of thread (jesus y'all) so some of it might be beating a dead horse but I will try to address things that especially caught my attention....
First things first.... HIPPIE AND EAP STOP ACTING CATTY. SHUT UP AND GROW UP - BOTH OF YOU. EAP, you can't quit... that's lame. Whatever your deal is with each other you should probably take it elsewhere because you are bringing other people down with you and this neg energy is killing my buzz. From superbek with love.
Moving forward... I changed my vote from kdogg last round because I wanted the inspector to ask about him I felt it in my gut that he was innocent. If I was mafia, why would I change my vote to save him and then kill him overnight? That would be like hanging myself. If I was mafia and kdogg was innocent, then why wouldn't I just keep my mouth shut, keep my vote for him and slide under the radar?
I would like to add that there is NO WAY IN HELL that the mafia would kill off kdogg in the first round if he was one of them, especially since he really wanted to play with indi, he just wouldn't have stood for it. Also, what mafia group would decrease their number in the first round?
At this point, there is an obvious suspect (hippie) to me and I would quote it but it would take all day so just go read page 9.... it's such BS and a failed attempt at manipulation. I mean, she got mad about kdogg saying he was a townie because she was trying to set him up as a mafia member and it put a kink in her plan. Honestly, I don't think anyone else would even think twice about a player who gets offed by the mafia in the first round alluding to his own innocence a remote violation of the rules. so it is just so clear to me....
^^yup she was mafia that game alongside me. I think kdogg even called her out on that seeming somewhat suspicious which sounds about right since we all know he is the greatest mafia player in the history of inforoo. ;D
also, I am highly suspicious of indi because he has been so quiet. I believe I also said this last round which would further prove my innocence. However I can confirm he went on a day adventure which may have detoured him from posting.
Sorry I didn't get to check in today guys, hopefully the length of this post will make up for all that. I logged in this morning but didn't really have a chance to look at the thread today because I was busy at work and went directly into party mode after that... I'm kinda drunk now (no pants) so please bear with me.
mike, i made a couple long posts myself that went almost completely overlooked. but in the end, we've got to help each other out. and while i agree that just posting "fluff" is counter-productive, you also haven't weighed in since page 8. we don't always need some long explanation on things, but knowing where you stand on other's theories is just as helpful, ya know?
Maybe he hasn't weighed in since page 8 but how can you hold that against him or anyone else? It's been a few of you having personal fights, going around in circles, and posting nonsense? What could anyone who is trying to really play this game have to contribute to that? ???
So now I am to the point where everyone is voting for me. I could change my vote to bacon in hopes of saving myself but at this point, I do not think he is guilty, I have a suspect and it is hippie and I just don't know how no one else even suspects that... remember about how we talked about being suspicious of people w/o votes? How is it that the ones who are the most active today have no votes? Bacon and myself are the only ones who stand by kdogg's innocence and the fact that the mafia would not kill off one of their own on the first day. Bacon, how did rationality land us on the chopping block? oh wait.... I bet the MAFIA prob has something to do with it.
superbek>>>hippie
Alright, I'm ready for whatever you guys want to throw at me, I have nothing to hide (but I will be waiting with a gun and a pack of sandwiches.
I figured something like this would happen. That's why I think bek and kdogg are working together said that in day one! Her post just proves my point. She doesn't even ? Kdogg being guilty or entertain the idea she just knows he is innocent! Puuuhhhlease. Townspeople we all need to stick together. At this point I think it's safe to say kdogg and bek Are working together. Edited: Because I typed on my cell phone and left out a word. Oopsy!
Moving forward... I changed my vote from kdogg last round because I wanted the inspector to ask about him I felt it in my gut that he was innocent. If I was mafia, why would I change my vote to save him and then kill him overnight? That would be like hanging myself. If I was mafia and kdogg was innocent, then why wouldn't I just keep my mouth shut, keep my vote for him and slide under the radar?
and if i were mafia, why the heck would i have come up with such a radical theory in the first round and stick to it so eagerly? if you wouldn't have done something so sloppy, i certainly wouldn't have. because obviously i'm the best player to ever grace this game ;D ;D
I would like to add that there is NO WAY IN HELL that the mafia would kill off kdogg in the first round if he was one of them, especially since he really wanted to play with indi, he just wouldn't have stood for it. Also, what mafia group would decrease their number in the first round?
you don't know that. so what if he wanted to play with indi? if him being alive was going to jeopardize their numbers early anyway, he would have done it just so he could win. he cares about that just a TINY bit more than being able to just play with someone.
At this point, there is an obvious suspect (hippie) to me and I would quote it but it would take all day so just go read page 9.... it's such BS and a failed attempt at manipulation. I mean, she got mad about kdogg saying he was a townie because she was trying to set him up as a mafia member and it put a kink in her plan. Honestly, I don't think anyone else would even think twice about a player who gets offed by the mafia in the first round alluding to his own innocence a remote violation of the rules. so it is just so clear to me....
^^yup she was mafia that game alongside me. I think kdogg even called her out on that seeming somewhat suspicious which sounds about right since we all know he is the greatest mafia player in the history of inforoo. ;D
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
ok, sorry...i'm done.
i sighed, therefore i MUST be guilty?? that is probably the most laughable defense i've ever heard. i sighed. wow. i sighed because when you only have 4 people participating in what should be a 9 person game, it gets a little exhausting having to wait on people to even say one thing. and as most scientists will tell you, a sample of two does not a solid conclusion make. especially when the second sample is from an innocent townsperson. i realize you don't have anything to pin on me, but this is a little silly.
also, I am highly suspicious of indi because he has been so quiet. I believe I also said this last round which would further prove my innocence. However I can confirm he went on a day adventure which may have detoured him from posting.
so, now you're suspicious of someone for not participating, when you yourself have not been participating?
mike, i made a couple long posts myself that went almost completely overlooked. but in the end, we've got to help each other out. and while i agree that just posting "fluff" is counter-productive, you also haven't weighed in since page 8. we don't always need some long explanation on things, but knowing where you stand on other's theories is just as helpful, ya know?
Maybe he hasn't weighed in since page 8 but how can you hold that against him or anyone else? It's been a few of you having personal fights, going around in circles, and posting nonsense? What could anyone who is trying to really play this game have to contribute to that? ???
actually, it's been quite a bit of the 4 of us throwing around our theories to each other and running them into the ground because no one else is participating. the personal fights have been annoying, yes, but have certainly not taken over full pages of this game. continually bringing it up isn't really helping matters either, so maybe everyone should just drop it, no?
Moving forward... I changed my vote from kdogg last round because I wanted the inspector to ask about him I felt it in my gut that he was innocent.
This part doesn't make sense to me. If you think somebody's innocent, why would you want the inspector to waste a guess asking about them? It seems like that's a person you wouldn't want the inspector to ask about if you were trying to learn as many mafia names as possible.
I would like to add that there is NO WAY IN HELL that the mafia would kill off kdogg in the first round if he was one of them, especially since he really wanted to play with indi, he just wouldn't have stood for it. Also, what mafia group would decrease their number in the first round?
This seems like a good point. Has mafia ever killed one of their own in the first round like this? I don't know -- anyone? It does seem like a ballsy move. You'd have to be really confident in your mafia team's ability to think you could pull something like this off.
At this point, there is an obvious suspect (hippie) to me and I would quote it but it would take all day so just go read page 9.... it's such BS and a failed attempt at manipulation. I mean, she got mad about kdogg saying he was a townie because she was trying to set him up as a mafia member and it put a kink in her plan. Honestly, I don't think anyone else would even think twice about a player who gets offed by the mafia in the first round alluding to his own innocence a remote violation of the rules. so it is just so clear to me....
Bek, are you just talking about the stuff she said about kdogg's caption under the OMG pic, or is there something else we should also be looking at on page 9?
So now I am to the point where everyone is voting for me. I could change my vote to bacon in hopes of saving myself but at this point, I do not think he is guilty, I have a suspect and it is hippie and I just don't know how no one else even suspects that... remember about how we talked about being suspicious of people w/o votes? How is it that the ones who are the most active today have no votes? Bacon and myself are the only ones who stand by kdogg's innocence and the fact that the mafia would not kill off one of their own on the first day. Bacon, how did rationality land us on the chopping block? oh wait.... I bet the MAFIA prob has something to do with it.
There's something important here, but I'm not quite making the connection yet. I can't tell if this makes sense or not -- need more coffee.
I have only skimmed page 14 in order to know where we currently stand....so I am about to go back and fully read everything. I wanted to go ahead and chime in but if anything on page 14 changes my mind I'll come back and make another post. there was also something a few pages back that I thought I needed to address which I will get to in a few moments.
I'd rather have a run-off with Bacon in it and I fully support a Bacon/Bek run-off. I'd also like to know what is going on with Indi.
Post by GratefulHippie on Aug 7, 2010 10:19:05 GMT -5
NTRT...yes, killing one of their own has been done before. kel and i were mafia with a guy named ian, and ian dug himself a hole first round out of the gate, so we both decided he had to go to save ourselves. we ended up winning the entire game with just the two of us. so it's not even a completely original idea, it's just very radical.
also, i guess i missed the part about me getting up in arms about kdogg's reference under his picture. which i think is extra funny considering that rule 8 was also named the "Bek Rule". i got annoyed because he's dead and discussing his role in the game. period. so at this point you have that i was upset he violated a rule, and because i said "sigh". sorry, but if that's enough evidence to convict someone then i could probably make a case for every person here.
At this point, there is an obvious suspect (hippie)
This is exactly why I an NOT voting for her. Of course she is the obvious choice....but I am hestitant to vote for the most obvious suspect. I feel like Hippie is too smart to out herself like that. Who knows for now I am keeping my vote for Bacon.
I mean, she got mad about kdogg saying he was a townie because she was trying to set him up as a mafia member and it put a kink in her plan. Honestly, I don't think anyone else would even think twice about a player who gets offed by the mafia in the first round alluding to his own innocence a remote violation of the rules.
I'm too lazy to go diggin' around in other games for a quote but I have seen Hippie get her panties in a bunch (no offense) over rule breaking before so I would not use that some sort of support that she is Mafia.
Moving forward... I changed my vote from kdogg last round because I wanted the inspector to ask about him I felt it in my gut that he was innocent.
What? ??? ??? Gosh, the first round was such a long time ago and I really don't feel like going back to sift through all the B.S. to prove a point....but why would you even think the inspector would automatically ask about him? I know he was suspicious but even if the inspector did ask about him the chances of the inspector coming out that early to reveal it are slim. Also, wouldn't you want the inspector to ask about someone you think is guily rather than someone you think is innocent.
However, if you and Kdogg were Mafia together I don' t think you would be pushing his innocence right now......hmmmmmmm.
I'm too lazy to go diggin' around in other games for a quote but I have seen Hippie get her panties in a bunch (no offense) over rule breaking before so I would not use that some sort of support that she is Mafia.
well yeah, of course i got my panties in a bunch. it's my job, didn't you know?!
This seems like a good point. Has mafia ever killed one of their own in the first round like this? I don't know -- anyone? It does seem like a ballsy move. [glow=blue,2,300]You'd have to be really confident in your mafia team's ability to think you could pull something like this off.[/glow]
Kdogg and Bek seem like just the type of players to try this.
Didn't someone say that in a previous game? I could have sworn I read that Hippi saying *sigh* made her guilty in another game. Maybe it was kdogg? I am about 80% sure this happened.
;D
