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My friends went to see this Friday night. They came back ten minutes later because it was sold out. I may have to go see this tonight. Chris Nolan has yet to disappoint me.
I didn't think the Prestige was quite up to his standards, but still pretty good, but I agree.
1. Memento 2. Insomnia 3. Batman Begins 4. The Following 5. Dark Knight 6. Prestige
Saw it yesterday. It is impressive. One common theme is balance, precarious balance. Balance, or altered balance is common to all the dream tokens (used to determine if you're dreaming); a spinning top, a loaded die, a top-heavy chess piece... We are told you're not supposed to use another person's dream token, but DiCaprio uses his wife's token all the time (the spinning top). We are shown the dreamworld has MC Escher-like qualities; up is down, right is left. How do you determine balance in an Escher-like world? What is balanced in one dimension is unbalanced in another. You can continue to walk forever on a flight of stairs in an Escher-world... The movie begins with DiCaprio waking on a beach, and he does exactly again near the end of the film, reminiscent of an Escher world. This would mean *everything* bound by the two scenes is a dreamworld on a never-ending continuous walk around a staircase in dreamworld.
The end of the movie has DiCaprio/Cobb finally seeing the faces of his children. I think his childrens' faces were his dream token, allowing him to know he is finally awake. The spinning top is seen to continue to spin, wobbly, on the coffee table, suggesting the dream continues.
I need to see the film again, maybe several times. I think there are clues in the scenery I missed. I also feel there is something very large and obvious I am missing.
Are there spoilers in that post? It looks quite specific. And where did the spoiler notifications... been posting in this since yesterday, and just now there's a spoiler indication? WTF?
Are there spoilers in that post? It looks quite specific. And where did the spoiler notifications... been posting in this since yesterday, and just now there's a spoiler indication? WTF?
I wasn't trying to divulge spoilers. I'm still very unsure about what is dream, what is reality, or if there is really any difference. I think it helps to go into this movie with some grasp of what's going on. The wobbly spinning top is not definitive as to what's going on, really. It's an *inception*. It plants an idea....
i dont see any possible way that this isnt the best movie of the year. i have had this movie on my radar for a looong time and had very high expectations... which were exceeded.
Yeah the craziest part was when the zombies showed up and tried to eat Leo's brains, but Joseph Gordon Levitt flapped his arms and some angels came and they were all saved. For the time being.
Are there spoilers in that post? It looks quite specific. And where did the spoiler notifications... been posting in this since yesterday, and just now there's a spoiler indication? WTF?
I wasn't trying to divulge spoilers. I'm still very unsure about what is dream, what is reality, or if there is really any difference. I think it helps to go into this movie with some grasp of what's going on. The wobbly spinning top is not definitive as to what's going on, really. It's an *inception*. It plants an idea....
I wasn't trying to divulge spoilers. I'm still very unsure about what is dream, what is reality, or if there is really any difference. I think it helps to go into this movie with some grasp of what's going on. The wobbly spinning top is not definitive as to what's going on, really. It's an *inception*. It plants an idea....
Thanks and it's ok, but you're not helping, lol.
Some critics have said the movie is resistant to spoilers. Having seen the movie once, I want to see it again all the more because I *know* there're deep layers still to be unearthed. The balance motif is worth more exploration, as well a the potential energy of things on the cusp, right on the edge of falling down... Also, the nature of time, time expansion and contraction. There is a lot of physics in the film.
Yeah the craziest part was when the zombies showed up and tried to eat Leo's brains, but Joseph Gordon Levitt flapped his arms and some angels came and they were all saved. For the time being.
I do want to see Inception, but I REALLY want to see ^^ THIS movie ;D
We are made aware of 3 dream tokens, a spinning top, a chess piece (pawn?) and a die. The top and the chess piece have radial symmetry with no faces. Markings on the top become an indistinguishable blur as it spins and remains in balance. A pawn has a base which allows it to remain upright without spinning, and has no marks to distinguish a side. A die has 6 *faces* upon which it can rest, with value determined by the number on the visible face opposite the hidden side on which it rests.
Edit: Further observations - A spinning top is a gyroscope, able to maintain a *fixed* orientation while spinning. A pawn only has one stable orientation, base down. A die has 6 stable orientations, with 6 different face values depending on where "down" is orientated (remembering in Escher-space down can be up, right can be down, front can be up, etc.
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My friends went to see this Friday night. They came back ten minutes later because it was sold out. I may have to go see this tonight. Chris Nolan has yet to disappoint me.
I didn't think the Prestige was quite up to his standards, but still pretty good, but I agree.
I agree with you there. But it was still a good movie.
A Thieve's Parade 2/24 Conspirator 2/26 Kevin Smith 3/11 Keller 3/17 Papadosio 3/18 JJ Grey 3/25 Bela Fleck/Edgar Meyer 3/26 Toubab Krewe 3/27 O'Death 4/11 Budos Band 4/22 EOTO 4/28 Summer Camp 5/6-29 All Good
saw it yesterday and really liked it. wasn't blown away or anything, probably because so many people hyped it up for me, but still a great summer movie compared to what else has come out this summer. my nolan rankings:
1. Memento 2. Dark Knight 3. Inception 4. Batman Begins 5. Insomnia 6. The Prestige
Post by questionablesanity on Jul 22, 2010 7:39:51 GMT -5
I saw this yesterday. Pretty good. It's not too often that a movie makes me think but there's a lot to keep track of in this one. It's definitely the best movie I've seen in awhile but not the best I've ever seen. The CG is almost flawless especially the no gravity fight scene. I'd love to know if they filmed that using wires because it sure didn't look like it. The only CG flaw that I could spot was when Leo took Juno girl into a dream for the first time and she started moving shit around. When they went from walking on the ground to walking on the vertical ground, it looked a little odd. But other than that it was flawless. I'm not going to rush back to the theatre to see it again, but I'll def get the DVD.
I don't say this too often, but it is definitely worth watching in the theatre.
I agree with one of the above posters who said that the first convo between Caine and DiCaprio was extremely important. I love movies that don't give you all of the answers.
A Thieve's Parade 2/24 Conspirator 2/26 Kevin Smith 3/11 Keller 3/17 Papadosio 3/18 JJ Grey 3/25 Bela Fleck/Edgar Meyer 3/26 Toubab Krewe 3/27 O'Death 4/11 Budos Band 4/22 EOTO 4/28 Summer Camp 5/6-29 All Good
I have to watch it again, and again, but on first glance Cobb's Totem, was not the spinning top, that was his wife's, but rather his totem was his wedding ring? Thoughts?
I saw Inception this weekend. I loved it up until the dream with the snow fortress about 2/3rds or 3/4ths the way through... everything before that was a solid 8.5/10, and everything afterwards was maybe 5.5/10. From there it just seemed to quickly devolve from an awesome psychological mindquack into a typical corny action movie. I also found Ellen Page annoying in her role, which is a shame considering this had a very strong ensemble cast. I very, very rarely see movies more than once in the theaters, but I might make an exception for this and catch it in IMAX.
I will, like others, have to see it perhaps at least two more times to understand all the plot nuances and subtleties. there is a lot of physics theory that is relevant to the plot, and that seems on first glance to have been incorporated well. Certainly the space-time fabric gets warped in dreamspace....I love the concept but want to research its theoretical background more thoroughly before seeing it again. I would love to watch it with Stephen Hawking....
one other thing. did anyone notice that the name of Ellen Page's character has a tie in to Greek mythology that I think is very significant? I wonder if there are other similar links contained in place and person names that might not be immediately apparent.
All in all, I love anything that challenges me and makes me think, and this movie has certainly done that. Add to that stellar acting performance by the cast, and whopper special effects. I smell Oscar nominations....
also, Edith Piaf's music was used - if you may recall Marion Cotillard starred as Piaf in "La Vie en Rose"... and the space-time continuum wrinkles yet again.
Post by questionablesanity on Jul 27, 2010 13:59:41 GMT -5
Someone on PT mentioned EP's name in the movie and how they thought that she was actually in control of everything. I couldn't follow their logic but it was somewhat interesting.
A Thieve's Parade 2/24 Conspirator 2/26 Kevin Smith 3/11 Keller 3/17 Papadosio 3/18 JJ Grey 3/25 Bela Fleck/Edgar Meyer 3/26 Toubab Krewe 3/27 O'Death 4/11 Budos Band 4/22 EOTO 4/28 Summer Camp 5/6-29 All Good