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Garth Algar: Do you ever get the feeling Benjamin's just using us?
Wayne Campbell: Good call. It's like he wants us to be liked by everyone. I mean Led Zeppelin didn't write tunes everybody liked. They left that to the Bee Gees.
What? So no one comes in 4 hours it's time to give up and die? WTF?
yeah that is what i thought. perhaps i heard it wrong. but the coast guard interviewed the rescued guy when he had hypothermia and was kind of out of it.
Edit: No, I heard it correctly. That is what the guy said. Bummer.
That's horrible. Where did you hear that? It doesn't match up with what SI, ESPN and FoxSports have been reporting.
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My guess is that he'll end up in Washington or Oakland with Miami being a dark horse contender. Just keep him away from my team! I've disliked him from his sharpie days, then he followed that up with protesting his trade to Baltimore (which is why I don't think that they'll make a play for him) and then the trainwreck in Philly. (I actually thought that Dallas played out better than expected.)
Post by noeysasquatch on Mar 5, 2009 12:35:54 GMT -5
The news of TO getting cut really brightened up my day, but its still somewhat surprising. To is a great player and athlete but as a person and teamate he is no good. I guess the genius of jerry jones finally realized that TO is a poison to your teams chemistry and unity. I despise TO for what he did in Philly and its great to see this drama occur with the cowboys ;D After seeing what happened in Philly i knew the same situation would unfold again.
The only team that I think will go after Owens is the Raiders. Al Davis is crazy enough to sign him and they do need a big WR for Russel. He wont go to the Ravens because Harbaugh is the coach and he was with the Eagles during the TO fiasco. And for those same reasons i do not seeing him going to Miami. I dont think washington will pursue him because they already have 2 veteran receivers and a good group of young receivers. I think Oakland is the most likely team to sign him unless another team loses a WR to injury.
TO>>>Patriots. TO is one of the top 5 receivers of all time. He is a sore loser but his desire to win and be the best is as great as anybody's. New England would give him the opportunity to do that. He has only been a problem when the team loses games/the QB plays poorly. Not a problem he would have in NE.
Belichik could bring him sit him down and give him the same talk he gave Randy Moss. Give him a low-risk, incentive-laden contract, so they can cut him in a second (and they'd still have Welker and Moss).
The Pats have plenty of cap room, and this would give them the greatest offense in the history of sports.
BTW, no way he goes to a poopy team like the raiders. Definitely a playoff contender, most likely with a stud QB.
edit: we're gonna sign ray lewis too. never question the hooded one even when he trades cassel and vrabel for a 2nd round pick. he is 2 to 3 moves ahead of everybody.
TO>>>Patriots. TO is one of the top 5 receivers of all time. He is a sore loser but his desire to win and be the best is as great as anybody's. New England would give him the opportunity to do that. He has only been a problem when the team loses games/the QB plays poorly. Not a problem he would have in NE.
Belichik could bring him sit him down and give him the same talk he gave Randy Moss. Give him a low-risk, incentive-laden contract, so they can cut him in a second (and they'd still have Welker and Moss).
The Pats have plenty of cap room, and this would give them the greatest offense in the history of sports.
BTW, no way he goes to a poopy team like the raiders. Definitely a playoff contender, most likely with a stud QB.
edit: we're gonna sign ray lewis too. never question the hooded one even when he trades cassel and vrabel for a 2nd round pick. he is 2 to 3 moves ahead of everybody.
Are you out of your mind? First of all Ray Lewis already re-signed with the Ravens earlier this week. Second, there's no way in hell the Pats would ever consider signing TO. They're too smart to do something as stupid as that. You really think that they could get TO and Moss to play on the same team? Whatever it is your drinking, I want some
EDIT: TO has no stock. He has no say as to whether he goes to a playoff contender or not. He's gonna be delegated to the nether-regions of the NFL. He's poison.
TO>>>Patriots. The Pats have plenty of cap room, and this would give them the greatest offense in the history of sports.
BTW, no way he goes to a poopy team like the raiders. Definitely a playoff contender, most likely with a stud QB.
Are you out of your mind? First of all Ray Lewis already re-signed with the Ravens earlier this week. Second, there's no way in hell the Pats would ever consider signing TO. They're too smart to do something as stupid as that. You really think that they could get TO and Moss to play on the same team? Whatever it is your drinking, I want some
EDIT: TO has no stock. He has no say as to whether he goes to a playoff contender or not. He's gonna be delegated to the nether-regions of the NFL. He's poison.
People said the exact same thing about Randy Moss , 3 years ago. People were saying he wouldnt break 1000 yards, he'd be a distraction, wouldnt jell with the team, and wouldnt last till the end of the season.
I admit it's wishful thinking but it's certainly plausible. They would be flat out- unstoppable. Neither Moss or TO can be covered one on one by anyone, anywhere (the one game Moss wasn't double covered this year, he scored 3 td's then told the media he was offended they only had 1 guy on him-classic). Their offense would be so insanely unstoppable, that they have to consider it.
The first year in Dallas was smooth sailing. When Romo got hurt and the team started losing, poop hit the fan.
All they have to do is say Terrell, we have the best offense in the NFL. You want to win a ring. This is your best shot. Look at the season Randy had 2 years ago. You're old. You're running out of time. Keep your mouth shut, we'll win, you'll get your money. Everybody will be happy (excpet all of you outside New England).
Edit: People forget the Super Bowl he played on a broken leg. Gutsiest performance I've ever seen except for MJ's fever game and the game where Larry Bird smashed his head on the court in the playoffs against Indiana (i was like 7 for that but I remember it)
For one thing, they don't have tons of cap room. They were right up on the cap before they traded Cassel and Vrabel and restructured Moss's deal. That cleared about 18 mil. They have brought in Lito Sheppard, who needs a new deal (if they haven't already done one), and Fred Taylor, amongst others.
They have #1 Moss, #2 Welker, they just traded for #3 receiver Greg Lewis from Philly, they just signed a Tight End from the Jets, Chris Baker. Why would you think that they would add TO, seeing as how he spent most of last year complaining that he had to split catches with Witten? Now he's going to quietly accept being a back up to Moss and splitting carries with Welker, Lewis, Baker and the rest of the Pats' receiving corps?
No way does TO go to New England unless they want to make some major changes to their team. (And don't even get me started on TO working for an organization that controls the flow of information like the Kremlin. I cannot imagine Belachick signing up for motor-mouthed TO!)
For one thing, they don't have tons of cap room. They were right up on the cap before they traded Cassel and Vrabel and restructured Moss's deal. That cleared about 18 mil. They have brought in Lito Sheppard, who needs a new deal (if they haven't already done one), and Fred Taylor, amongst others.
They have #1 Moss, #2 Welker, they just traded for #3 receiver Greg Lewis from Philly, they just signed a Tight End from the Jets, Chris Baker. Why would you think that they would add TO, seeing as how he spent most of last year complaining that he had to split catches with Witten? Now he's going to quietly accept being a back up to Moss and splitting carries with Welker, Lewis, Baker and the rest of the Pats' receiving corps?
No way does TO go to New England unless they want to make some major changes to their team. (And don't even get me started on TO working for an organization that controls the flow of information like the Kremlin. I cannot imagine Belachick signing up for motor-mouthed TO!)
-Cassel freed up 18 million. Fred Taylor had already signed (for close to the veteran minimum). TO would sign low guarantee- high incentives. They have plenty of room.
-Wes Welker is ideally a slot receiver, not a wide-out.
-Greg Lewis is a stiff. He didn't start over Hank Baskett or any of the other clowns donovan was throwing to last year (not to say he won't put up decent #'s in this offense). He and Baker combined last year for less than 50 catches, under 500 yards, and a whopping 1 TD. I doubt they'd be stealing touches from TO.
-TO only started bitching about catches when they lost 5 straight games (or whatever it was). The guy hates losing. He reacts to it like quacking baby- i agree. Wouldn't be a problem in NE.
-Brady threw 50 td's in 2007. I think he could find some to distribute to TO. Plus TO was always double-covered in Dallas- which is why they always throw to Witten. You can't double Moss and Owens at the same time
With the low guaranteed contract (nobody's gonna give him big guaranteed money anywhere), if he starts yapping, see ya later. Belichik will cut him in a heart-beat.
TO>>>Patriots. The Pats have plenty of cap room, and this would give them the greatest offense in the history of sports.
BTW, no way he goes to a poopy team like the raiders. Definitely a playoff contender, most likely with a stud QB.
Are you out of your mind? First of all Ray Lewis already re-signed with the Ravens earlier this week. Second, there's no way in hell the Pats would ever consider signing TO. They're too smart to do something as stupid as that. You really think that they could get TO and Moss to play on the same team? Whatever it is your drinking, I want some
EDIT: TO has no stock. He has no say as to whether he goes to a playoff contender or not. He's gonna be delegated to the nether-regions of the NFL. He's poison.
People said the exact same thing about Randy Moss , 3 years ago. People were saying he wouldnt break 1000 yards, he'd be a distraction, wouldnt jell with the team, and wouldnt last till the end of the season.
I admit it's wishful thinking but it's certainly plausible. They would be flat out- unstoppable. Neither Moss or TO can be covered one on one by anyone, anywhere (the one game Moss wasn't double covered this year, he scored 3 td's then told the media he was offended they only had 1 guy on him-classic). Their offense would be so insanely unstoppable, that they have to consider it.
The first year in Dallas was smooth sailing. When Romo got hurt and the team started losing, poop hit the fan.
All they have to do is say Terrell, we have the best offense in the NFL. You want to win a ring. This is your best shot. Look at the season Randy had 2 years ago. You're old. You're running out of time. Keep your mouth shut, we'll win, you'll get your money. Everybody will be happy (excpet all of you outside New England).
Edit: People forget the Super Bowl he played on a broken leg. Gutsiest performance I've ever seen except for MJ's fever game and the game where Larry Bird smashed his head on the court in the playoffs against Indiana (i was like 7 for that but I remember it)
I agree that Moss has been a great fit for the Pats, but TO's ego is on a whole different level then his ever was. I mean, Brady went down last year, and Moss didn't complain. He didn't have that great of a year and he went about his business as usual. You can bet the house that that would NOT happen with TO. Things are fine with him until he feels slighted or feels that the QB isn't doing enough to get him the ball, then it becomes TO's world, and everyone else is just living in it. I mean, stranger things have happened I guess, but, actually, no, that would be the strangest thing ever. I don't think the Pats would risk throwing their team chemistry off like that. They don't need to. They don't need TO
Great Odin's beard, the Bills are interested in TO. I don't want to have to root for that dude. Hopefully they aren't the only suitor and he'll sign elsewhere...
He takes some pressure off of Evans, lets Reed go back into the slot, forces D's to take the passing game more seriously, pulling pressure from Edwards and helping out the running game. His one year deal allows last year's two rookie WR's a year to develop, year three being when a lot of WR's click. Plus, they didn't have to break the bank to make it happen and if he starts being a dick they can just cut him.
Don't get me wrong, I hate everything that he represents and I am just hoping that he lasts the year without throwing the Bills under the bus but now I'm just trying to focus on the positive.
He takes some pressure off of Evans, lets Reed go back into the slot, forces D's to take the passing game more seriously, pulling pressure from Edwards and helping out the running game. His one year deal allows last year's two rookie WR's a year to develop, year three being when a lot of WR's click. Plus, they didn't have to break the bank to make it happen and if he starts being a weiner they can just cut him.
Don't get me wrong, I hate everything that he represents and I am just hoping that he lasts the year without throwing the Bills under the bus but now I'm just trying to focus on the positive.
Yeah it all sounds good at first, BELIEVE ME. Just wait for it man. Just wait