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i think by good in low-light you mean capable, no? its a low-mid level dslr, not a 5d. you get what you pay for. the point and shoot digi that i have now cannot take decent low light pictures because there is no aperture adjustment, so it just leaves the shutter open forever. low-lighting situations are my biggest issue.
fishingmaniac - are there any full sensor digital slr's for a comparable price?
exactly. Obviously at $700, a D60 is not top of line by any means. There's definitely better cameras that take better low-light pictures. I've seen some that can make night shots look like they were taken at noon. The D60 is quite capable at capturing a clear image in low lighting conditions and with a bit of tweaking in Photoshop, you can get them looking amazing. So yeah, it's very good, but not perfect by any means.
I just reformatted my harddrive, so I don't have any of my photos on my computer right now, but I'll find the disc I burned them onto and post a few of the shots I took.
Yes, you can get auto-sensing but for most it's in a higher price range. I have a D80 and it will take good low-light pics if you know how to use it...as a matter of fact that was one reason I got it...it has the fastest/most powerful motor in it's price/class for the money and that equals shutter speed for low light shooting w/o flash which is exactly what I need a camera for in my biz....
I guess that's really what you need to look at...WHAT do you need in a camera...what are you primarily using it for...daytime/daylight shooting...night shoots with ambient lighting...will you have additional light sources available or will you have to use no/low light and only ambient light sources? Then choose the camera based on what options you will use most...if you don't want to mess with manual aperature settings or manual ISO settings...then there are a LOT of point and shoot cameras on the market now that will take GREAT pix -- just as good as a DSLR for half the price. If you NEED all the other bells and whistles of being able to swap between manual and auto settings then definitely check out a DSLR. To be honest....I only use about 1/20 of the features on my camera....ISO/shutter and aperature settings, bracketing and some of the preview options....other than that (and the ability to turn off the flash and set the low light options) I'd be perfectly happy with a high end Coolpix and actually prefer to use my Coolpix whenever I can!
Oh and Maniac I agree...I've had MANY cameras over the years...and ALL have been either Canons or Nikons....and I've loved them all! I still have my very first AE/1 SLR...and still use it! ;D
i think by good in low-light you mean capable, no? its a low-mid level dslr, not a 5d. you get what you pay for. the point and shoot digi that i have now cannot take decent low light pictures because there is no aperture adjustment, so it just leaves the shutter open forever. low-lighting situations are my biggest issue.
fishingmaniac - are there any full sensor digital slr's for a comparable price?
You won't get a full frame D-SLR for under $2K (with some exception for clearance prices on discontinued models if you can find them).
I shoot with a 5D Mark II. One of the biggest sensors on the market (36.0mm x 24.0mm) and two ISO extension settings which allow for ISOs of 12800 and 25600 (each of course become somewhat grainy). It's a full frame (obviously) and I have all fast glass (f/2.8 - f/1.2). Job perk. ;D Oh I also have a 17-85mm f/4-5.6, but that's an EFS lens that only fits cameras with less than full frame sensors such as the 40D that I got it with.
***EDIT - You might find sick deals on grey market products. DON'T BUY THEM. You could end up with a menu in Japanese that can't be changed under warrenty, because the American branch of the company does not honor foreign warranties. Just one example I have seen personally. Buyer beware.
i think by good in low-light you mean capable, no? its a low-mid level dslr, not a 5d. you get what you pay for. the point and shoot digi that i have now cannot take decent low light pictures because there is no aperture adjustment, so it just leaves the shutter open forever. low-lighting situations are my biggest issue.
fishingmaniac - are there any full sensor digital slr's for a comparable price?
You won't get a full frame D-SLR for under $2K (with some exception for clearance prices on discontinued models if you can find them).
I shoot with a 5D Mark II. One of the biggest sensors on the market (36.0mm x 24.0mm) and two ISO extension settings which allow for ISOs of 12800 and 25600 (each of course become somewhat grainy). It's a full frame (obviously) and I have all fast glass (f/2.8 - f/1.2). Job perk. ;D Oh I also have a 17-85mm f/4-5.6, but that's an EFS lens that only fits cameras with less than full frame sensors such as the 40D that I got it with.
***EDIT - You might find sick deals on grey market products. DON'T BUY THEM. You could end up with a menu in Japanese that can't be changed under warrenty, because the American branch of the company does not honor foreign warranties. Just one example I have seen personally. Buyer beware.
I am a big fan of Kevin Kelly - kk.org for various recommendations.
His for a small digital camera is:
The Panasonic Lumix DMC-TZ1 is the best general purpose digital camera to get at the moment.
If I was looking now, I would consider this based on his recommendation. BTW check out his website.
Panasonic doesn't even put full raster sensors in their pro HD cameras. If you are buying a still camera, buy one from a company that specializes in imaging and doesn't make clock radios (sony, panasonic, et al). Trust me. I'm in the biz. I'm willing to recommend our number one competitor over these other electronics companies just because they are that. OUR NUMBER 1 COMPETITOR. Any electronics company can make a piece of electronics. Only a good imaging company can make a good camera. Canon is best. Nikon is good. every one else shouldn't even be in the game (when it comes to still cameras).
how are they with letting you bring certain cameras into centeroo...i know a lot of times the policy at different places is no professional cameras (ones w/ interchangeable lenses)...i've got a Nikon D40 that i want to bring in...i've also got a point and shoot but would prefer to have the nikon...
I have a cannon rebel xti with a couple different lens... do you think i can get into centeroo with them?
The answer is a definite probably. OK 1st thing when it comes to Centeroo security, it totally depends on who you get searching you. What they want to avoid is people coming in with professional pieces of glass, anything under 200mm and you'll probably be fine. They don't want people taking zoom shots of artists and then selling poster size prints. I've gone in w/ an 85mm no problem and have seen people bring in 200-400mm zooms w/o batting an eyelash. They great thing about the Centeroo security is if you get a hassle, just head back into the crowd and get into a different line w/ a different security guard. Really, cameras are WAY down on their list of things to worry about. They will never take your camera, just turn you away. An Xti is a relatively small dSLR it probably won't even show up on the radar, I brought a 10D in and out of Centeroo last year easily.
Post by rideincircles on Feb 14, 2009 0:40:57 GMT -5
I still have yet to buy a new digital camera, but I can still take pictures with my Canon A710. But ever since I dropped it, there are a few things wrong with it.
1. It wont take pictures outside in daylight pretty much at all. the aperture is messed up completely. 2. There are horizontal lines going through the pictures it does take. 3. It can still record video, but if I hit the camera on the side, the lighting goes dim. 4. Sometimes the upper right corner is Dark. 3. I can get it into a weird mode using custom that takes abstract looking pictures. Basically some kind of crazy photoshop filter type looking pictures.
I am not gonna bother trying to take it apart or send it in as long as the pics look like this.
Post by rideincircles on Feb 19, 2009 21:17:20 GMT -5
I am now thinking about ordering a Canon SX1 digital camera instead of the SX10. It has full 1080p HD video w stereo sound, 10mp CMOS sensor w 20x zoom, and takes 4fps regular pictures. Its $200 more than the sx10. My only concern is the warranty since its not a camera for sale in the USA, and its $600 or so. i would hate to have to send it to Australia or Japan for service. The videos on youtube are of so high quality my mac cant play them. My mac is about four years old though.
Oh yeah, what does RAW files mean, it says they are supposed to have a firmwire update for it and possible April USA release date. i will probably order it before then though.
Post by rooconteur on Feb 23, 2009 14:56:47 GMT -5
I just got a Sony Cybershot SDC-H10. 8.1 megapixel. 10x zoom. Circuity City clearance 30% off. Got it for 180 bucks (300 everywhere else). Definitely check out Circuity City if you're lookinf for a camera. Everything is 30-40% off including the SLR's.
Post by rideincircles on Apr 6, 2009 21:32:21 GMT -5
I just bought a canon sd790 is tonight. My 4d camera was too unreliable for day pictures and i am going to my friends wedding on the beach this weekend. I am still planning on getting the canon sx1 before bonnaroo.
Post by rideincircles on May 14, 2009 3:15:55 GMT -5
Well, i am uncertain on getting the Canon SX1, I have seen mixed reviews, and I dont wanna spend $600 at the moment on something I havent touched. I do want a camera with good zoom. I did want to have the hd video capability, but im debating on just getting an slr. Any input? My canon sd790 takes good video until you mess with the zoom. Sound is great also.
I am now thinking about ordering a Canon SX1 digital camera instead of the SX10. It has full 1080p HD video w stereo sound, 10mp CMOS sensor w 20x zoom, and takes 4fps regular pictures. Its $200 more than the sx10. My only concern is the warranty since its not a camera for sale in the USA, and its $600 or so. i would hate to have to send it to Australia or Japan for service. The videos on youtube are of so high quality my mac cant play them. My mac is about four years old though.
Oh yeah, what does RAW files mean, it says they are supposed to have a firmwire update for it and possible April USA release date. i will probably order it before then though.
RAW files are photos that do not have camera settings embedded in the file. this means that while you do set a white balance and an aperture these values can be changed afterwards using software in a non-destructive manner. Non-destructive means that you are not recompressing the file. When you shoot jpegs they must be transcoded into psd files for use in photoshop and then re-compressed into jpegs. This causes a loss of data and quality. If you re-save jpegs over and over, after about the original pixels from the image left. All of the pixels have been recreated by your computer. Raw files are huge, but if you use, for example, Canon Digital Photo Professional you can change your white balance, adjust your exposrue within 2 stops in eather direction, retouch areas where there may have been dust on the sensor, etc and all of this is done non-destructively. There is a RAW plug in for photoshop, but it is destructive (I think) and it doesn't work so hot, because each camera creates a slightly different RAW file (this is due to the individual imaging sensor's architecture on different cameras). Nikon also shots RAW files on their pro cameras and have their own proprietary software for manipulating them.
Well, i am uncertain on getting the Canon SX1, I have seen mixed reviews, and I dont wanna spend $600 at the moment on something I havent touched. I do want a camera with good zoom. I did want to have the hd video capability, but im debating on just getting an slr. Any input? My canon sd790 takes good video until you mess with the zoom. Sound is great also.
The SX1 IS is now available in the U.S. You can go to a store and play with it to get your hands on it to try it out.
Post by questionablesanity on May 15, 2009 11:27:24 GMT -5
For what it's worth, Ibought a D60 which is great (imo) for the money. The kit lens is awful in low light so I bought a 50mm f1.4g lens specifically for roo. I shot some pics the other night at a small club show....holy shit. They're amazing. The lens is worth every penny of the $500 it cost me. I wish I had bought the d90 because i think it shoots video as well, but I've got other cameras for that. Anyways, I've got a canon 3sis and I love it. I'm sure it's a piece of junk compared to what's out now, but I bought it a few years back.
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Post by rideincircles on May 16, 2009 14:05:07 GMT -5
My choice right now is either canon sx200 or the sx1. I like the sx200 since its more pocketsized, but still has 12x optical, 720p video & is $250 cheaper. The sx1 still seems pretty badass, and both of the cameras are brand new. The only thing that sucks is no optical zooming when recording on the sx200. I think they have the camera at frys, i will try and go check it out.
My fiance works at a camera store... I asked him quickly, the s600 is at least 2 generations old... the s630 is the current model. You might want to spend another $50 and get the Casio FC100, it has a 30 shot burst mode, it has high def and high speed video, a long life rechargeable battery and 5x zoom. He said the Nikon s630 is a good camera too. Another one to look at is the Olympus Tough 6000, It has 3.5 wide angle optical zoom, droppable up to 5 1/2 feet, waterproof up to 13 feet... very roo friendly.
That's the short answer from Topher the camera salesman.
BTW- I have a Panasonic DMC-TZ3 and I'm very happy with it. We also own a Pentax K10, but I never use the SLR. I just don't like hauling it around.
Post by rideincircles on May 21, 2009 1:47:25 GMT -5
Indecisiveness still prevails. I am gonna rule out the sx200 due to no zoom capabiity while recording video. I think I am gonna go with my original idea with the canon sx10 over the sx1. I dont think the $200 extra is worth it, but still havent made up my mind. Raw file format that I heard isnt that great, 4 fps, and 1080p video and a cmos sensor is what the $200 gets. I will probably make up my mind and order one by monday, if not sooner.
Post by rideincircles on May 23, 2009 0:11:16 GMT -5
I ordered the sx1 from buydig.com today. I can't wait to mess with it. It better get here before Roo or I will flip out. This will be my in between step from a dslr. Time to stock up on memory.
For what it's worth, Ibought a D60 which is great (imo) for the money. The kit lens is awful in low light so I bought a 50mm f1.4g lens specifically for roo. I shot some pics the other night at a small club show....holy nuts. They're amazing. The lens is worth every penny of the $500 it cost me. I wish I had bought the d90 because i think it shoots video as well, but I've got other cameras for that. Anyways, I've got a canon 3sis and I love it. I'm sure it's a piece of junk compared to what's out now, but I bought it a few years back.
The D 90 shoots 720p hd video at 24p using the motion jpeg codec. Lots of rolling shutter issues. Also motion jpeg is a poor compression scheme. The Canon 5D Mark II shoots 1080p video at 30p using MPEG 4 H.264 codec. Much more efficient codec. Still has rolling shutter issues but not as bad. Also has a full frame sensor unlike the D90.
I ordered the sx1 from buydig.com today. I can't wait to mess with it. It better get here before Roo or I will flip out. This will be my in between step from a dslr. Time to stock up on memory.
OK....I am not EVEN pretending to be the photo/camera expert that maniac is....I have worked on and off in newspapers/magazines/photo-J for my career/hobby...have a degree in Journalism and trained in news photography as a part of my overall study program cause as a working journalist you have to be able to "do it all" so to speak....and I have worked with both Canons and Nikons primarily for my career....those are the two you see in the news/media realm the most. But in my last few years on the festie circuit....the bigger the fest...the more I see the Nikons outnumber the Canons. At Roo last year....I had my Nikon D80 and kinda felt a little outclassed cause 90% or more of the photographers covering Roo had D2X's - I don't even REMEMBER seeing a Canon or ANY other brand of camera there...I'm sure there WERE other cameras there...but tyou have to REALLY get special passes to do video and almost every one had the D2X's which are like the high HIGH end professional Nikon (I think they JUST came out with a 3X but it's just in the last year or so....) but these are like close to$3k cameras......here is a like for any photo-files that aren't familiar with them...
NIKON has long been a photo-J standard for some reason...and it looks like that hasn't changed at all.... LOL!
Umm..... Market analasys shows Canon as having 90% of the journalism market until about 2 years ago when Nikon finally came out with a full frame camera. During the same time period Canon had 98% of sports journalism, largely due to faster longer glass. Full frame is a necessity also. Those numbers are down to about 60 - 70% news and sports. Maybe the festi scene is different. Hard to imagine except that Nikon is generally cheaper. Most of the time when I check the photo pit (which is all the time) I see plenty of long white lenses. That means Canon. Saw them on stage at roo last year, at APW last year, at Radio City the other night., etc. I'll keep an eye out at roo this year.
I think that you're too busy trying to rock out and do a good job at the same time that you don't notice what the other photogs have.
Regardless, if you are buying a photo camera go with one of those two manufacturers.
;D
Yeah....funny how Nikon and Canon worked that out...that the mounts are almost exactly opposite 
I always thought that was pretty...fishy! 
