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I haven't even seen it yet. My wife wanted to watch something else and since it was one of her few night's off, I DVR'ed it. I'll watch it soon. Glad to know it was good.
I'm assuming you're talking about the new Frontline, not the old one. I've seen the old one and it's amazing
btw, i dont understand the backlash against meg. most definitely living in iran for a few years will have a profound affect on how you view the people and how you understand them.
i was in india for about 3 months in college and that had a huge impact on not only my view of indians, but of the world in general. made it even smaller... do i understand everyone, in every part of that country, no. and my experience is limited to the time i was there. but i think i have a different perspective than someone that never left, say, indiana.
I'm always surprised when Meg sticks her head in this lion's mouth. While I disagree with Meg most times, it takes courage to express your opinions when you know the vast majority of listeners disagree and knowing you will likely face abuse.
Glad to have your voice, Meg, and I'll always try to disagree civilly.
I'm always surprised when Meg sticks her head in this lion's mouth. While I disagree with Meg most times, it takes courage to express your opinions when you know the vast majority of listeners disagree and knowing you will likely face abuse.
Glad to have your voice, Meg, and I'll always try to disagree civilly.
Troo - you and I will always end up agreeing to disagree civilly. And sometimes - I do change my mind about my opinions on things based on the opinions, facts and websites posted by people here. I am fairly open minded to most things and - by no means - do I think that my oinion is always the right one. We all have different ways of looking at things and what might be an important issue to me - well - it might be something that no one else cares about.
I'm always surprised when Meg sticks her head in this lion's mouth. While I disagree with Meg most times, it takes courage to express your opinions when you know the vast majority of listeners disagree and knowing you will likely face abuse.
Glad to have your voice, Meg, and I'll always try to disagree civilly.
I second that, Troo. Meg always seems to catch hell on here, and it's a shame. We all need to be more open to differing opinions.
What's everyone think about signing new agreements with Russia? I think anything we can do to reduce the amount of nuclear weapons in the world is a good thing.
i havent read the current news. but i agree, any decrease in our mutually assured destruction is a good thing!
regarding russia, i am reading an old article in playboy - an interview with gary kasperov (sp? the chess guy). he isn't painting a rosy picture of Putin and his administration, that's for sure.
What's everyone think about signing new agreements with Russia? I think anything we can do to reduce the amount of nuclear weapons in the world is a good thing.
I've not read anything but did hear a blurb about it on the news this morning. I would have to think that it is a good thing.
Post by nitetimeritetime on Apr 2, 2009 14:07:31 GMT -5
Agreed. Non-proliferation agreements are definitely good.
The news that I've read about this is even more positive, as it seems that the nuclear agreement is serving as a positive move in our relations with Russia, which have fallen off precipitously over the last few years. I agree with Obama's general stance that we have to actively engage our allies and not-so-allies in discussion if we want any global initiatives (like nuclear non-proliferation) to work.
Watching the news the past couple days, I have to say it's nice to have a President again making speeches in front of people. Secret Service probably isn't too happy about it.
so i know the pres has only been in power for a few weeks. i also know that he inherited a lot (we can all debate who caused what, what failed, etc). my question is, at what point is anything obama's responisibity? is it when the stock markets go sky and stay sky-high? is it when there are no more "terrorists" left in the world? i just seriously want to know when what happens today does not go back to "the past administration". if the economy goes down for another two years, will it still be the past administration's fault. simple quesiton.
Post by wonderllama on Apr 6, 2009 23:36:05 GMT -5
From most of the economic opinions I've heard we can expect the economy to be pretty much in the pooper through at least mid 2010. That would also (hopefully) be enough time for a decent amount of things in this recent stimulus bill to have ramped up and show some kinds of results. Personally, I think if we're not seeing signs of improvement in several sectors by around 'Roo time next year, Obama's got some serious explaining to do. I don't think we'll fully recover from this mess by that time, and I do think it will get worse this year before it gets better. But we damn sure better be on the upswing by 3rd quarter next year. And for the record Obama's still responsible for those votes in the Senate before he became prez. He's just as guilty of shoveling money at the banks as Bush.
As for the terrorist thing... I wish I could tell ya man, and I wish I knew myself. Nobody on either side has told me what "winning" these wars actually means, only that we need to keep fighting them. Victory for me is when all our troops are HOME safe. that COULD happen in a matter of months, it won't happen for at least a matter of years.
I think generally many things that happen during ANY administration are because of what was enacted 1-2 administrations ago. I'm on my phone so can't look this up again, but like the problems during Bush Sr's presidency was mainly because of Reagan.
And especially with long-term issues like the economy, just as there are no quick fixes, there also wasn't a quick route to get where we are now. I've heard some trace it back to Reagan and how everything had become so unregulated during his and subsequent administrations.
You are right dc. Look at the middle east crisis, that started many years before Obama or Bush was alive with the UN decision on Israel recognition as a state over Palestine without properly thinking about the Palestinian people. Violence in that and terrorism based out of the middle east started to effect the west in the early 70's. Some would say earlier as Sirhan used RFK support of Isreal as the excuse to assassinate him. Then Bush(43) and Clinton had to deal with issues form Afghanistan and Iraq because of bad deals brokered in the Reagan era with those two countries that was not properly handled in Bush (41). Then their is the central and south America soon to be crisis that has been mishandled by every president since T. Roosevelt that if not Obama a president after him will have to deal with..
I think generally many things that happen during ANY administration are because of what was enacted 1-2 administrations ago. I'm on my phone so can't look this up again, but like the problems during Bush Sr's presidency was mainly because of Reagan.
Sooo - what I read here is that the problems Bush the second inherited were actually the fault of Clinton??? LMAO
So - it's really the Democrats fault????
Please don't smite me - oh wait - you can't because I opted out of karma/smite/headies/custies ;D
This word also has a underground meaning once you break it down. Let’s take “Bonn” for example and it actually turns into the word “Bone”. We all know gays use this word to describe the action of when they are fecal fisting their Cuban cabana boy at their sex bath house parties. Now let’s look at Roo, “Roo” is short for “Kangaroo”.So put the full true message together and you get“Bone a Kangaroo
I think generally many things that happen during ANY administration are because of what was enacted 1-2 administrations ago. I'm on my phone so can't look this up again, but like the problems during Bush Sr's presidency was mainly because of Reagan.
Sooo - what I read here is that the problems Bush the second inherited were actually the fault of Clinton??? LMAO
So - it's really the Democrats fault????
Please don't smite me - oh wait - you can't because I opted out of karma/smite/headies/custies ;D
if we're going to say this,then we may as well just tell the whole truth.. that is the world is in the shape it is today because of white people... really this country went to hell when the mob got out of the government...
This word also has a underground meaning once you break it down. Let’s take “Bonn” for example and it actually turns into the word “Bone”. We all know gays use this word to describe the action of when they are fecal fisting their Cuban cabana boy at their sex bath house parties. Now let’s look at Roo, “Roo” is short for “Kangaroo”.So put the full true message together and you get“Bone a Kangaroo
further back than that... it goes back to the peanut farmer
From 1969 to 1993 their was one single term democrat president but all the conservatives want to blame him for all the problems in that time period. (Actually I would say longer because Johnson was pretty much a republican).
Besides it was Reagan's people making illegal deals with the Iranian not to negotiate with Carter before the election.
This word also has a underground meaning once you break it down. Let’s take “Bonn” for example and it actually turns into the word “Bone”. We all know gays use this word to describe the action of when they are fecal fisting their Cuban cabana boy at their sex bath house parties. Now let’s look at Roo, “Roo” is short for “Kangaroo”.So put the full true message together and you get“Bone a Kangaroo
This word also has a underground meaning once you break it down. Let’s take “Bonn” for example and it actually turns into the word “Bone”. We all know gays use this word to describe the action of when they are fecal fisting their Cuban cabana boy at their sex bath house parties. Now let’s look at Roo, “Roo” is short for “Kangaroo”.So put the full true message together and you get“Bone a Kangaroo
as we all know all modern day problems can be traced back to these two
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I call BS on that.
I think a lot of our current long-term problems go back to the late 70s/early 80s - after these two were out of office.
True, Reagan was big on deregulation, but he was already on a path Carter had started.
I think the biggest past problem that needs to be addressed is the free-market worshipping, supply-side economics, tax-cuts-solve-everything point of view. Carter made steps in this direction, but Reagan made it into a religion for the GOP. Reagan wasn't the first to try it, either. I don't think current Republican economic policy looks much different now than it did when Herbert Hoover was calling the shots. We all know how well that went.
It's a zombie idea that's been thoroughly discredited. Continuing to follow that path does no favor for the country as a whole, not to mention the current state of the GOP.
Well, I can't really say whether I'm happy or unhappy with Obama's policies on the economy and the money being given to large companies b/c that will take time before we can really tell if it was a good or terrible idea. But socially, Obama has already done some things I am very happy with such as stopping the DEA from raiding state approved marijuana shops/facilities, etc.; reversing the Bush administration policy that bans the use of federal dollars by non-govermental organizations that discuss or provide abortions outside of the United States; lifting the ban on federal funding of human embryonic stem-cell research; and promoting massive government investment in green energy. So basically, I'm glad we have a president that is actually taking science into account when making deicisons. What nice change!!!
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