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I don't know what it is about appropriation of phrasing but people. seriously. need to stop calling me brother.
Unless you've known me for quite some time, it just reeks of :rolls eyes:
Do you take issue with white people using it all, or is it the assumption that they're calling you that because you're black? I call my friends brother sometimes, regardless of race. Is that appropriation? Idk, for some reason "sister" sounds more like colloquial black vernacular to me than "brother" does.
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I don't know what it is about appropriation of phrasing but people. seriously. need to stop calling me brother.
Unless you've known me for quite some time, it just reeks of :rolls eyes:
Do you take issue with white people using it all, or is it the assumption that they're calling you that because you're black? I call my friends brother sometimes, regardless of race. Is that appropriation? Idk, for some reason "sister" sounds more like colloquial black vernacular to me than "brother" does.
I take issue when anyone says it. It feels hokey - and to double down on it, when black folks say it to me often times it feels like false reaching of connection. Just because we have similar skin tones may give us some historical context in the African diaspora, but truthfully I'm the son of Jamaican immigrants, and it feels like a manufactured statement to me. It often times just doesn't ring true to me, and I don't like phoniness. Appropriation for this one doesn't just mean black community, it means southern American church influence or maybe civil rights era terminology. I get brother from older black people and it feels weird too
I don't know what it is about appropriation of phrasing but people. seriously. need to stop calling me brother.
Unless you've known me for quite some time, it just reeks of :rolls eyes:
Seriously that must make it hard to listen to a lot of rap and hip hop. Between the casual use of certain words and derogatory statements towards women. I may be guessing but I believe if that "b" word bothers you certainly the one used referring to women could and should bother you also.
I don't know what it is about appropriation of phrasing but people. seriously. need to stop calling me brother.
Unless you've known me for quite some time, it just reeks of :rolls eyes:
Seriously that must make it hard to listen to a lot of rap and hip hop. Between the casual use of certain words and derogatory statements towards women. I may be guessing but I believe if that "b" word bothers you certainly the one used referring to women could and should bother you also.
Seriously that must make it hard to listen to a lot of rap and hip hop. Between the casual use of certain words and derogatory statements towards women. I may be guessing but I believe if that "b" word bothers you certainly the one used referring to women could and should bother you also.
Seriously that must make it hard to listen to a lot of rap and hip hop. Between the casual use of certain words and derogatory statements towards women. I may be guessing but I believe if that "b" word bothers you certainly the one used referring to women could and should bother you also.
Oh, be nice.
I am. I was just making an observation and posing a question. I've never heard that "b" word bother someone before and he seemed intelligent and I was just trying to discuss.
My honest question was to find out if certain words are ok used on others ... well you get it.
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I am. I was just making an observation and posing a question. I've never heard that "b" word bother someone before and he seemed intelligent and I was just trying to discuss.
My honest question was to find out if certain words are ok used on others ... well you get it.
I know I personally try to refrain from calling an African American "brother". It just seems insensitive and ignorant. I totally get his point. Just cause he's black he's "brother"?
I am. I was just making an observation and posing a question. I've never heard that "b" word bother someone before and he seemed intelligent and I was just trying to discuss.
My honest question was to find out if certain words are ok used on others ... well you get it.
I know I personally try to refrain from calling an African American "brother". It just seems insensitive and ignorant. I totally get his point. Just cause he's black he's "brother"?
What about people of Jamaican descent, like @bandeto?
I don't know what it is about appropriation of phrasing but people. seriously. need to stop calling me brother.
Unless you've known me for quite some time, it just reeks of :rolls eyes:
Seriously that must make it hard to listen to a lot of rap and hip hop. Between the casual use of certain words and derogatory statements towards women. I may be guessing but I believe if that "b" word bothers you certainly the one used referring to women could and should bother you also.
I am. I was just making an observation and posing a question. I've never heard that "b" word bother someone before and he seemed intelligent and I was just trying to discuss.
My honest question was to find out if certain words are ok used on others ... well you get it.
I don't get the connection you are making between these particular words, though. "Brother," in its literal sense, is a word with a generally positive connotation to signify a close, familial connection. And then, moving away from a literal brother, it's been used to signify a close relationship. But now, some men throw around "brother" to every guy they meet, which makes it seem empty and maybe even condescending. It's not exactly the same, but similar I think to the reason I hate being called sweetie or honey. If you don't know me, you've got no business using a term of endearment on me. It seems to me that for a black man, there could be another layer there because a black man calling another black man brother could be read as implying some connection based solely on the color of his skin, which maybe ignores the fact that those two men might have come from entirely different places and have entirely different experiences. But I'm not a black man, so I can't speak from experience, and I could be totally wrong on that last part.
Bitch is a term for a female dog that is used to refer to women (and men, sometimes) in a derogatory manner. It's not "worse" than calling a man brother. It's a different conversation altogether.
I hate being called 'big guy' or 'boss' Seems like the only two things servers at Buffalo Wild Wings are allowed to call a male.
I'm used to boss, and it also sounds respectful (esp. at a bodega when an older gentleman is talking to you). But Big Guy is the worst... (esp. if you've ever been arrested. because cops use it all the time)
Seriously that must make it hard to listen to a lot of rap and hip hop. Between the casual use of certain words and derogatory statements towards women. I may be guessing but I believe if that "b" word bothers you certainly the one used referring to women could and should bother you also.
I am. I was just making an observation and posing a question. I've never heard that "b" word bother someone before and he seemed intelligent and I was just trying to discuss.
My honest question was to find out if certain words are ok used on others ... well you get it.
I don't get the connection you are making between these particular words, though. "Brother," in its literal sense, is a word with a generally positive connotation to signify a close, familial connection. And then, moving away from a literal brother, it's been used to signify a close relationship. But now, some men throw around "brother" to every guy they meet, which makes it seem empty and maybe even condescending. It's not exactly the same, but similar I think to the reason I hate being called sweetie or honey. If you don't know me, you've got no business using a term of endearment on me. It seems to me that for a black man, there could be another layer there because a black man calling another black man brother could be read as implying some connection based solely on the color of his skin, which maybe ignores the fact that those two men might have come from entirely different places and have entirely different experiences. But I'm not a black man, so I can't speak from experience, and I could be totally wrong on that last part.
Bitch is a term for a female dog that is used to refer to women (and men, sometimes) in a derogatory manner. It's not "worse" than calling a man brother. It's a different conversation altogether.
I know I personally try to refrain from calling an African American "brother". It just seems insensitive and ignorant. I totally get his point. Just cause he's black he's "brother"?
What about people of Jamaican descent, like @bandeto?
And lastly, it should be noted that I'm not offended by the use of brother - it just tires my soul sometimes. Two completely different zones of disapproval. I personally don't use bitch when directed towards anyone, unless, ta-da they are being a bitch about something. But it's also because it's lazy, and honestly the worst part of it in rap is that it is used to just get the song along. That it's a lazy man's tool to complete a rhyme scheme, but I digress because it also not a contextually deep insult.
Seriously that must make it hard to listen to a lot of rap and hip hop. Between the casual use of certain words and derogatory statements towards women. I may be guessing but I believe if that "b" word bothers you certainly the one used referring to women could and should bother you also.
I am. I was just making an observation and posing a question. I've never heard that "b" word bother someone before and he seemed intelligent and I was just trying to discuss.
My honest question was to find out if certain words are ok used on others ... well you get it.
I don't get the connection you are making between these particular words, though. "Brother," in its literal sense, is a word with a generally positive connotation to signify a close, familial connection. And then, moving away from a literal brother, it's been used to signify a close relationship. But now, some men throw around "brother" to every guy they meet, which makes it seem empty and maybe even condescending. It's not exactly the same, but similar I think to the reason I hate being called sweetie or honey. If you don't know me, you've got no business using a term of endearment on me. It seems to me that for a black man, there could be another layer there because a black man calling another black man brother could be read as implying some connection based solely on the color of his skin, which maybe ignores the fact that those two men might have come from entirely different places and have entirely different experiences. But I'm not a black man, so I can't speak from experience, and I could be totally wrong on that last part.
Bitch is a term for a female dog that is used to refer to women (and men, sometimes) in a derogatory manner. It's not "worse" than calling a man brother. It's a different conversation altogether.
Unless you believe in creationism. In which case you believe we are all brothers and sisters. But I see both your points.
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5.5/four tet, daphni b2b floating points, avalon emerson 5.12/neil young 5.19/mannequin pussy 5.21/serpentwithfeet 5.25/hozier 6.12-16/bonnaroo 6.28/goose 6.29/goose 9.17/the national + the war on drugs 9.23/sigur ros 9.27-29/making time 10.17/air