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Post by FatKeystone on Dec 14, 2012 14:10:00 GMT -5
Really sickened by the news this morning. I will never understand how people could bring themselves to commit such a horrible act, especially against innocent children. It's also so disheartening to see that these kind of incidents seem to be increasing over the last few years.
I have strong political feelings on this general issue but I'm not going to share them right now as I don't think it is an appropriate time for that kind of discussion. Now is the time for people to come together and send as much positivity as possible to the victims and their families, not become polarized on political issues.
Situations like this make me feel a little useless as there really isn't much I can do in a time like this. My advice is to not take life for granted, hug your loved ones, hug your children, tell those closest to you how much you love them. It's also easy to say that we live in a scary and dangerous world, which we do, but it is also important to realize there a lot of positive things about life as well. Even with an incident as awful as this, positive things can result from it. Of course, it will be impossible to fully heal all the emotional pain associated with this, but at the very least people can come together, put aside their differences, voice their support, and make others realize that while there are despicable people out there, the majority of the world is filled with genuinely good people.
Post by Dave Maynar on Dec 14, 2012 14:11:35 GMT -5
Office mate #1: "Did you hear there was a school shooting? Something like 24 school kids dead." Office mate #2: "Really? Where at?" Office mate #1: "Somewhere up north. I can't remember." Office mate #3: "Connecticut." Office mate #1: "Oh, if it was New York, it'd just be a regular day there."
"There are two shooters. No, THREE! Wait, there's only one. He's from CT. No, JERSEY! Hey, little 8 year old who just saw a horrific tragedy the likes of which 99% of Americans won't see outside of a movie theater, TELL US WHAT YOU SAW!"
Office mate #1: "Did you hear there was a school shooting? Something like 24 school kids dead." Office mate #2: "Really? Where at?" Office mate #1: "Somewhere up north. I can't remember." Office mate #3: "Connecticut." Office mate #1: "Oh, if it was New York, it'd just be a regular day there."
Office mate #1: "Did you hear there was a school shooting? Something like 24 school kids dead." Office mate #2: "Really? Where at?" Office mate #1: "Somewhere up north. I can't remember." Office mate #3: "Connecticut." Office mate #1: "Oh, if it was New York, it'd just be a regular day there."
"There are two shooters. No, THREE! Wait, there's only one. He's from CT. No, JERSEY! Hey, little 8 year old who just saw a horrific tragedy the likes of which 99% of Americans won't see outside of a movie theater, TELL US WHAT YOU SAW!"
Just despicable, shameless behavior.
From what I understand, the only kids they interviewed were ones who weren't actually near the carnage.
If you must know, the reason that is, is because none of the children who were near what happened made it out. The motherf*cker massacred an entire kindergarten.
"There are two shooters. No, THREE! Wait, there's only one. He's from CT. No, JERSEY! Hey, little 8 year old who just saw a horrific tragedy the likes of which 99% of Americans won't see outside of a movie theater, TELL US WHAT YOU SAW!"
Just despicable, shameless behavior.
From what I understand, the only kids they interviewed were ones who weren't actually near the carnage.
If you must know, the reason that is, is because none of the children who were near what happened made it out. The motherf*cker massacred an entire kindergarten.
I'm not trying to get into the details, but I do know what happened there (or at least what the cops think happened).
I just think people should be shown some respect and privacy when their 5 year old gets shot by a psychopath. Those children being interviewed likely don't comprehend the magnitude of what just happened around them.
This is just all too sad and I want to go home and sleep and pretend I don't live in a world this sh*tty.
Office mate #1: "Did you hear there was a school shooting? Something like 24 school kids dead." Office mate #2: "Really? Where at?" Office mate #1: "Somewhere up north. I can't remember." Office mate #3: "Connecticut." Office mate #1: "Oh, if it was New York, it'd just be a regular day there."
I don't even know what to say.
Print this out and put it on their desk. And then punch them in the face for being so ignorant and indifferent towards the tragedy.
If you guys want we can make a separate thread for shooting/gun discussions. This whole thing is terrible.
Only if it's titled F*ck guns. I actually had been thinking about starting one for a while but my opinion has calcified to the point where I can't even stomach pro-gun arguments, so I didn't see the point.
Good job Fox, CBS, NBC, CNN and the rest. You just showed a facebook profile page and twitter account for the wrong f*cking person. Some guy is getting death threats (despite the fact that the shooter is dead and the guy is literally tweeting/posting on facebook right now).
Post by Don Flamenco on Dec 14, 2012 15:12:10 GMT -5
We are not immune to tragedy and this, unfortunately, is life.
This is the worst one I've ever seen though. Can't imagine what these parents are feeling this morning. My thoughts are also with you guys from that area. I know this really hits close to home.
Good job Fox, CBS, NBC, CNN and the rest. You just showed a facebook profile page and twitter account for the wrong f*cking person. Some guy is getting death threats (despite the fact that the shooter is dead and the guy is literally tweeting/posting on facebook right now).
Is there no shame in the media? Christ almighty.
I honestly hate whenever the give the gunman so much attention. But they all are fighting for ratings and have to be the first to report.
This is beyond words. I just feel sadness for the people of Newtown. I don't have any children, but it's a major tragedy for my state and humanity in general.
I've been to Newtown many times, went to college in nearby Danbury. It's a large town in area covered, but there aren't that many people there. It's a bedroom community, a quiet and safe area with tons of commuters to NYC and Fairfield/Westchester Counties. That upper Fairfield County area feels very familiar to me, a bit of a second home. It's just heartbreaking to know something like this actually happened there. Things like this don't happen around there.
My best friend is an elementary teacher in Danbury and other areas in Fairfield County. Thankfully he is safe, he is in Danbury today. But he has to drive through Newtown most likely to get home ... and I can't fathom how it feels to be there on a day like this.
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Chelsea Crowell, granddaughter of Johnny Cash and direct progeny of Rodney Crowell and Rosanne Cash (and a terrific drinking pal if you ever have the chance), just posted this on fbook:
"i've had a gun at my head 3 times in my life. once for more than 20 minutes. f*ck your f*cking guns. senseless. kills or ruins lives."
It is human nature to try and make sense of a seemingly senseless act. People need to know about this guy, the act itself is terrifying and disgusting. If we cannot make a connection with the monster that perpetrated the crime it becomes even scarier. This may not be rational, but it is just the way I believe it works. At least for most. I don't think any of the attention is "positive"...again, people need to make some sense of this. I think that that involves some connection between what is senseless and more concrete things, like a face and a history of the monster that did this.
Yet it is in this loneliness that the deepest activities begin. It is here that you discover act without motion, labor that is profound repose, vision in obscurity, and, beyond all desire, a fulfillment whose limits extend to infinity.
~ Thomas Merton ~
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It is human nature to try and make sense of a seemingly senseless act. People need to know about this guy, the act itself is terrifying and disgusting. If we cannot make a connection with the monster that perpetrated the crime it becomes even scarier. This may not be rational, but it is just the way I believe it works. At least for most. I don't think any of the attention is "positive"...again, people need to make some sense of this. I think that that involves some connection between what is senseless and more concrete things, like a face and a history of the monster that did this.
I'm trying to find this video....I forget the details but it was a guy talking about how the media SHOULD cover shootings and things like this and one of the important things was not showing/naming the killer. Like...focus on the facts and don't give him all this attention because then the next sick f*ck who may do this sort of thing and wants to be "famous" for it may have more motivation to carry it out.
I think the main idea of it is don't keep showing photos of the guy, don't keep mentioning his name. Focus on the facts. Focus on the tragedy. We've already seen how identifying people in things like this has led to innocent people with the same name being threatened and feeling unsafe. In a few cases (like when Spike Lee retweeted the wrong George Zimmerman's address after the Trayvon Martin stuff).
Post by itrainmonkeys on Dec 14, 2012 16:39:18 GMT -5
Here's the video I was talking about regarding media coverage of shootings. Some of it may not really apply here but it's still interesting to think about:
I think that that involves some connection between what is senseless and more concrete things, like a face and a history of the monster that did this.
Unfortunately these types of incidents only seem to inspire other monsters.
I don't necessarily agree, but I respect your opinion. If somebody has it in them to do something like this, they will eventually do it. They are not sitting around waiting on inspiration or a reason.
Yet it is in this loneliness that the deepest activities begin. It is here that you discover act without motion, labor that is profound repose, vision in obscurity, and, beyond all desire, a fulfillment whose limits extend to infinity.
~ Thomas Merton ~
What I don't get is how anyone could be against a National mental health program (yes funded by our tax $) that both identifies and gives actual real help to people with serious mental health issues.
I think that this could be the best thing towards an actual solution to this. It's finding the problem then finding the solution and I think you're right about this. Maybe this would work.
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Post by gratefuled on Dec 14, 2012 17:46:20 GMT -5
"I have told my sons that they are not under any circumstances to take part in massacres, and that the news of massacres of enemies is not to fill them with satisfaction or glee."
"I have also told them not to work for companies which make massacre machines, and to express contempt for people who think we need machinery like that."
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