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This was my first 'roo and Radiohead was definitely the biggest reason for my coming. Sorry if you couldn't get into it - not everyone has the same musical tastes. I hate the jam band genre, that's just the way it is. That being said most Radiohead fans really enjoy the slow songs, mainly post-OK Computer as another poster said.
Definietely the best show I have ever seen.
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i was a not liker. roo changed that. i didnt getinto the first for songs. but i stood up for the 5th and the rolls hit me and i lost my mind. what a show. the studio albums will still not get much playtime from me but i will be downloading this show and playing it thousands of times. this was by far and away the best roo ever for me. i saw so much great music!!!!!!
so a big you were right and i was wrong to all of the radioheads that i went back and forth with. thank you for the discussions though and if it were not for yall i might have missed it. so thanx!
I talked to some people who didn't really dig the Radiohead show. They were either not fans of the tone or disappointed at the number of down tempo songs played. But most people I was standing near or talked to about it had their minds blown. The new stuff was great. The old stuff was great. The video malfunctions worked great (as did the stuff I was on). All in all, awe inspiring stuff.
they seemed to really be all about bonnaroo. i am glad they enjoyed it so much. im surprised im saying this but i hope they make it back again soon. i dont think id go see a radiohead show but any festival they are at would be something i will have to make it to.
Except I grew up with Petty and knew every song he played, and I was like, where's "Running Down A Dream"? Where's "Love Is A Long Road"? Where's "Woman In Love"? "Don't Do Me Like That"? Fukking "Breakdown"? Why was was the show so short? So, there ya go. Petty left me wondering why the set was so by-the-numbers and just weak, whereas Radiohead, a band I am not so familiar with, left me entranced.
have you ever seen petty before? because its the same show.
he did the same show last friday that he did 2 years ago in boston (sans stevie nicks).
and he has this annoying habit of ending every song like its the last one he is gonna play.
that said, i thought he was pretty good, but I feel he should have taken advantage of the opportunity to play as long as he could and blow people away by demonstrating that they know so much of his music.
ya the breaks between songs were long. not as long a i remember dave being. i coulda dorve home to michigan and took a shower between dave songs. i really thoguht he would play alot longer. but what he did play was excellent in my opinion
radiohead played the most psychedelic, intense and shining show i could ever imagine. i loved seeing them a few years back in atlanta, but this show sent them over the top for me. they're the best band ever from my perspective, and the 'roo show was legendary, by anyone's standards. you should see the ateaseweb.com guys beating themselves up for not getting to see a 2.5 hour set.
dear lord, i was falling into each soft moment and letting the sounds play me like a percussion instrument. i was so freggin close i could see every band member's expressions! i'll be forever changed by the 'roo, especially this show. there's no need for verbal communication anymore, just notes, beats and harmonies.
i liked this show.
(p.s. there is an active torrent on etree for this show -- download it now!)
Post by sparklybecca on Jun 20, 2006 16:23:42 GMT -5
BTW did anyone see the HUGEEEE orange frisbee?? that was ours, we threw it out during radiohead, as i was walking threw the crowdds to find a spot every single person i would pass would say "DUDE, thats the hugest frisbee ive ever seen in my life"
Post by jimmyjamesx5 on Jun 20, 2006 16:30:52 GMT -5
I am not a big radiohead fan, only heard one show prior to the one at the roo one from the Heinken hall in amsterdman, yes by heads and heals Radiohead put on the best show at the Roo, there is alway going to be people who didn't like the show and in a perect world everyone could or would in enjoy this show but that just isnm't going to happen, also how about showing the four band mates and the screen all at one time, super trippy
Post by schwabsauce on Jun 20, 2006 16:31:36 GMT -5
I came to Radiohead with huge expectations. And while I definitely got into everything they played, it was pretty upsetting to me that they released all the energy after each song and never seemed to carry it forward into the next song. At least from where I was it was hard to appreciate all the slow re-starts. And each time they dropped out of a killer beat, I prayed for them to kick it back up four beats later, and let out a scat jam a la Buddy Guy. Or at least stretch out some songs like Petty did. I appreciate the comment that Radiohead isn't a jam band, but at a show like this you have to let loose and play something original. Now, it's likely that I don't realize the extent to which the guys were straying from the recorded versions of their tunes, I heard some of it for myself, but I also got the feeling that it wasn't happening as much as I'd like. Their visual presentation was second to none, but an inherent part of live music is the deviation from the canned sound of an album. Please contradict me, but I'm not sure Radiohead did enough soloing and experimenting.
Petty also missed out on my full approval. I loved just about everything he played, but it really disappointed me that he didn't take more guitar solos after playing such a nice one in the first song. I came into the show with rather low expectations, but if I remember correctly that guitar solo was one of the nicest guitar sounds of the weekend, it was fresh and patient, bluesy and intriguing, perfectly paced. In terms of my musical-analytic/emotional reaction to it, it stands with Buddy Guy's crowd-penetrating solo, Umphrey's finer moments, Trey's early-set ripping solo with Oysterhead, and a few others as one of the most gratifying guitar performances. Nothing Trey played with Mike on Saturday sounded so right. I was totally bummed that Petty didn't follow it up with lots more solos, even though he twice promised to jam in the second set. These were fun but lacking - one seemed to be a totally rehearsed piano ditty and the other didn't have enough memorable soloing. I really appreciated the freestyling Petty did though. Not that he was amazing at it, but its hard for someone of his generation to have the courage to just spit it out to the mic like that, and the stuff he said was nice. It wasn't as fun as Common's freestyle. But I don't remember Beck kicking any rhymes. Or tearing out enough guitar solos. Is my memory just bad? I can't wait to watch these shows on dvd.
Beck was mad original and successful with his visual presentation, but Radiohead gave him a run for his platinum. When the left screen became discolored and distorted early in the first set, I wondered if it was designed to give the crowd some experience of Thom Yorke's injured left eye. By blinking out the left screen and later bringing it back reduced in size, they gave us a tiny shock of what its like to lose some vision, enabling us to empathize better with Thom as he sang and danced for us. My suspicions that it was intentional deepened when I noticed that all the pre-event footage had been simple camera shots like the other bands had used, and all the post-event footage was a highly planned and distorted presentation; then at the encore when he used that amazing camera to ... show us his eye. Now that I think about it, the lines on the right side and bottom of the screen when it first became distorted would explain why they eventually brought it back at a reduced size, so maybe it was a true accident. But I like to think that it was planned to smack us in the face with symbolism, for those who know of the injury, or those who noticed during the encore. The panes the band had above their heads were so beautiful and incredibly well done. I wish I had been close enough to see more dancing. I also wish Thom's most endearing remarks hadn't been obscured by my ignorance of his accent. It was a tremendous show, but it could have been a lot nicer.
radiohead never completely goes off on tangents for forever -- they're a rock band. what they do (and the best, IMO) is play their slow songs decently straightforward (fake plastic trees, etc.) and completely go off on the faster songs. it's like the bass and drums play the driving force, while others (jonny especially) make different sounds depending on their mood/what strikes them as the dizzy shit at that moment. this all churns about in the air and combines to a unique fingerprint for the basic structure of the song. if you knew their songs inside and out, if they were molded into your DNA (like they are mine), you would have realized when they were "jamming out" and when they were sticking to the recorded song.
i think that one reason why jam band people hate on radiohead is that they actually play minor chords. also, they don't shrink from some of the dark sides of life which is more realistic and moving for me.
I had listened to them before and I didn't really enjoy them. I decided to give them another shot and I stayed for about an hour of their set. I wasn't feeling it at all.
I'm sure the hard-core fans loved it. I love any show from any band that I'm a hard core fan of, even if it's not their best night.
But shouldn't the headliner at a festival be one that could entertain the WHOLE crowd, not just the hard core fans. A festival brings all types of music fans together. DMB for instance. They bring a show that fans and non-fans can have a good time at. That's what a festival is for, in my opinion.
Did you see how manyu f*cking people were there???
Literally, when the show was over, our jaws were hanging wide open. My friends and I started walking away from the stage when we realized we had no idea where we were going, or what to do next. We were completely bewildered.
I can understand why some folks are complaining about the energy. Generally, the non fans are casual listeners, who hear things here and there when a friend plays something for them, or they happen to catch something on the radio.
My friends and I were talking about this earlier today after we read the thread, and figured this: a LOT of Radiohead songs are very complex, with lots of layers hidden under other layers, that take a long, long time to really hear. I'm an insane fan, and have heard pretty much every song they've done a million times. And what I've noticed is that a lot of the time, I hear something I'd never picked up on before. Sometimes it's the context of a phrase, sometimes it's a hidden loop behind louder strings, or vice versa. If you only listen casually, you only hear the most obvious sounds. And this, imho, has a lot to do with people not picking up on this almost hidden energy.
i was a not liker. roo changed that. i didnt getinto the first for songs. but i stood up for the 5th and the rolls hit me and i lost my mind. what a show. the studio albums will still not get much playtime from me but i will be downloading this show and playing it thousands of times. this was by far and away the best roo ever for me. i saw so much great music!!!!!!
so a big you were right and i was wrong to all of the radioheads that i went back and forth with. thank you for the discussions though and if it were not for yall i might have missed it. so thanx!
Post by homerjjesse on Jun 20, 2006 20:06:32 GMT -5
yea, for people who didn't like the show, radiohead is not for the timid.
You have to pay attention, to really focus for some of the songs to be enjoyable. There's not as many 'hooks' compared to Blues Traveller. I'd say radiohead is truly like pink floyd in the sense that there are some songs that just strike you the right way the first time around, but there are so many songs that take many a listen before you trully appreciate it.
I thought they were really good, every member seemed really into it except for Ed Obrian (whats with that guy?) and every song was terrific, except for you and whose army. The other two slow ballads at teh end were fun, but I do agree that all those ballads on the back end really did take the excitement out of the crowd for the end.
And please just end with karma police!
still the best day of concerts i'll ever see though. Beck and Costello were incredible.
I was really unimpressed by Radiohead. Everyone says they are the best live band in the world but they don't even make my top 15 at Roo. None of their songs seemed exciting. To be honest it reminded me of Modest Mouse last year...low energy and uninspired. Of course that is just my taste. My two friends were completely blown away by it.
Post by mrjacavich on Jun 20, 2006 21:46:00 GMT -5
Radiohead for me was a life-changing experience, i thought every song they played was amazing, there were a couple songs i wish they would have played but i wouldnt take any songs they played off the set list. Is it just me or was the There There and 2+2=5 an awesome opening. I thought they did an awesome job on You and whose army, and Like spinning plates was amazing. Radiohead is a very complex band and i think you have to understand that and if you just listen to the music you will know thier show sat. was a once and a lifetime experience.
Post by bringinitfromidaho on Jun 20, 2006 23:03:23 GMT -5
I'm surprised by the amount of disappointed people. everyone I talked to was absolutely blown away as was myself. I love all types of music; I rocked out to bela fleck, buddy guy, my morning jacket, superjam, steel pulse, nickel creek, bright eyes, etc. but Radiohead was the best of all. Their musicianship, psychedelia, and intensity far exceeded any of the other bands there.
I came to Radiohead with huge expectations. And while I definitely got into everything they played, it was pretty upsetting to me that they released all the energy after each song and never seemed to carry it forward into the next song. At least from where I was it was hard to appreciate all the slow re-starts. And each time they dropped out of a killer beat, I prayed for them to kick it back up four beats later, and let out a scat jam a la Buddy Guy. Or at least stretch out some songs like Petty did. I appreciate the comment that Radiohead isn't a jam band, but at a show like this you have to let loose and play something original. Now, it's likely that I don't realize the extent to which the guys were straying from the recorded versions of their tunes, I heard some of it for myself, but I also got the feeling that it wasn't happening as much as I'd like. Their visual presentation was second to none, but an inherent part of live music is the deviation from the canned sound of an album. Please contradict me, but I'm not sure Radiohead did enough soloing and experimenting.
Petty also missed out on my full approval. I loved just about everything he played, but it really disappointed me that he didn't take more guitar solos after playing such a nice one in the first song. I came into the show with rather low expectations, but if I remember correctly that guitar solo was one of the nicest guitar sounds of the weekend, it was fresh and patient, bluesy and intriguing, perfectly paced. In terms of my musical-analytic/emotional reaction to it, it stands with Buddy Guy's crowd-penetrating solo, Umphrey's finer moments, Trey's early-set ripping solo with Oysterhead, and a few others as one of the most gratifying guitar performances. Nothing Trey played with Mike on Saturday sounded so right. I was totally bummed that Petty didn't follow it up with lots more solos, even though he twice promised to jam in the second set. These were fun but lacking - one seemed to be a totally rehearsed piano ditty and the other didn't have enough memorable soloing. I really appreciated the freestyling Petty did though. Not that he was amazing at it, but its hard for someone of his generation to have the courage to just spit it out to the mic like that, and the stuff he said was nice. It wasn't as fun as Common's freestyle. But I don't remember Beck kicking any rhymes. Or tearing out enough guitar solos. Is my memory just bad? I can't wait to watch these shows on dvd.
Beck was mad original and successful with his visual presentation, but Radiohead gave him a run for his platinum. When the left screen became discolored and distorted early in the first set, I wondered if it was designed to give the crowd some experience of Thom Yorke's injured left eye. By blinking out the left screen and later bringing it back reduced in size, they gave us a tiny shock of what its like to lose some vision, enabling us to empathize better with Thom as he sang and danced for us. My suspicions that it was intentional deepened when I noticed that all the pre-event footage had been simple camera shots like the other bands had used, and all the post-event footage was a highly planned and distorted presentation; then at the encore when he used that amazing camera to ... show us his eye. Now that I think about it, the lines on the right side and bottom of the screen when it first became distorted would explain why they eventually brought it back at a reduced size, so maybe it was a true accident. But I like to think that it was planned to smack us in the face with symbolism, for those who know of the injury, or those who noticed during the encore. The panes the band had above their heads were so beautiful and incredibly well done. I wish I had been close enough to see more dancing. I also wish Thom's most endearing remarks hadn't been obscured by my ignorance of his accent. It was a tremendous show, but it could have been a lot nicer.
Well, like other people said, it seems you're wanting song bands to be jam bands. And Radiohead and Petty did blend songs at times, just not as continuous as a jam band would. Petty's not the lead guitar in his band, so expecting a solo from him is looking to the wrong guy. And Mike Campbell's produced some of the most influential guitar riffs and solos in the past 25 years. "Last Dance with Mary Jane" alone has inspired two mainstream hits from Red Hot Chili Peppers and the White Stripes. I will say that Petty did seem to try to stretch his set longer than he needed to out of obligation to the "Roo spirit" which seemed kind of lame. As if throwing in a few covers and taking a long time between some songs is enough to justify a 3 hour set. And everytime they did try to jam, it just didn't work for me. (The keyboard solos were pretty godawful).
As far as Beck's concerned, I said it elsewhere, he was putting on his troubadour persona, not his party persona. And he seemed to be making a concerted effort to not overshadow Radiohead. His show set up was interesting. I dug the puppets performing "Loser" and the skits and the whole sitting down at the table thing. I thought the set had its moments, but couldn't help but feel my suspicion that a lot of people would be disappointed by him in a big open air venue doing his troubadour schtick came to fruition. He was good but not stellar which at Roo is enough to turn people off.
Well let's see, considering this is a Bonnaroo board and we all just got back from Bonnaroo......I was speaking of their performance at........................Bonnaroo. I wouldn't put words in anyones mouth I have never met.