I thought I was going to have a heart attack during that final Pats drive. I didn't see the PI at the end of the game with Gronk, but after seeing the replay this morning I can't believe the refs didn't give New England another play. And that's coming from a Carolina fan.
Big ups to the Pats fans that were at the game last night. There were a lot of them there, and I didn't see a single one going nuts or being demonstrative after the call didn't go their way. All I saw were a bunch of Panthers fans being assholes to anyone wearing red and blue and generally acting like they've never been around for a big win before. There was even a fight in the parking deck between a dude in a Kuechly jersey and some guy driving a limo. Carolina was keeping it classy last night.
Post by FuzzyWarbles on Nov 19, 2013 13:43:59 GMT -5
I know that was the biggest Panther win since Delhomme got them to the Super Bowl, but they've got a long way to go to earn a spot playing at MetLife Stadium in January. That was the first full game of theirs I've watched this year and really enjoyed it. I think they match up well with the top NFC teams. It should be an interesting final 6 weeks of the season. I'm still waiting to find that one team nobody is expecting much from that makes a late run and gets to the big game. Seems to be one every year.
I'm surprised no one is talking about the reversal call on the final play of the game last night. That was defensive holding. It doesn't matter that the ball was not catchable. Gronk was being hugged and pushed out of the endzone. Ridiculous.
BTW, I hate Steve Smith more than any other player in the NFL. He probably sleeps with his mouth still running. I hope Vaccaro smashes him in the face.
For what it's worth, as a Seahawks fan the team I'm most worried about in the NFC right now is the Panthers. If Newton is on his game, with that defense playing the way it is they're a really tough matchup.
It'd be like looking in the mirror for the Seahawks, almost. Very similar styles and make-ups there.
The Pats are still a good team, above average and playoff contenders. They just aren't as good as they used to be. It doesn't help there's all the defensive injuries, and the offense isn't quite clicking (still.)
Personally, I think Denver is better - and will likely be the AFC champs. The Pats are at best 3rd in the AFC, no lower than 5th - around Indy/KC level, below Denver and Cincy.
Wait - you think the Cincinatti Bengals are better than Indy, Kansas City and New England? Seriously?
Well, were. Cincy did beat New England a month or so ago.
Maybe Cinci after that? The team is injured beyond belief and inconsistent as hell.
I'd go Denver - KC - Indy - Cinci - NE
Do you think Indy would beat KC? I just can't see it.
Depends who is home.
Personally, my rankings would be
Den - Indy - KC - NE also, but this list changes week-to-week. If another team comes out and shows the same flaws in KC that the Broncos did, they can keep falling (I'm not sold on them). I think they end up like 12-4, 13-3 at best and get smacked in R1 on the road in NE in the playoffs.
I think the final seeding will be Denver - Indy - NE - Cincy - KC - whoever wins the poops lottery (Jets/Phins/Ravens/Titans/Chargers/Raiders/Browns/Buffalo)
Post by Mista Don't Play on Nov 20, 2013 17:04:10 GMT -5
I would have Indy second, mostly based on who they have beaten, although I think they could end up being the team to come out of the AFC. I would like to see them put together a complete game, something they haven't done since they lost Reggie Wayne.
No it won't, because I'm sick of people acting like Manning/Brady is the nexus of the football universe. The hype for this matchup is unbelievable.
Two of the top 5-10 (depending on who you ask) quarterbacks of all time are playing in the same era and get to face off against each other a lot. It's pretty cool. I used to complain about things being overhyped, then I stopped watching ESPN when games weren't on
Post by FuzzyWarbles on Nov 22, 2013 12:28:04 GMT -5
I look forward to the Broncs at Pats game because they are two good teams right now. Brady vs. Manning is part of it, sure. They are two of the tops of this generation and have a history against each other, though dominated by Tom Terrific, including big playoff game.
An interesting story line for the Seahawks-Saints game will be Wilson facing the team of the QB he says has been the main one he studies and emulates.
And regardless of all this shiz, the original point you made is that the Giants' ceiling is going 8-8 and maybe a wild card. That's absurd considering we haven't had a losing season since 2004. We won 9 games last year with one of the toughest schedules in the league. And we are better, if not the same. The only significant player we lost is Ahmad Bradshaw - and David Wilson is better anyway.
hey meow! david wilson has shown none of the toughness of ahmad bradshaw
Post by FuzzyWarbles on Nov 24, 2013 16:39:32 GMT -5
Another clutch drive by Cam to boot.
Sigh, I was hoping Case could be the QB Houston was looking for. He has yet to win a game and did not play well today. It wasn't all his fault however. Not much protection for him today, plus a critical drop by Hopkins on the last drive and another bobbled pass that ended up a pick to end the game.
All defenses being equal, if you would prefer Cam Newton, Steve Smith, Greg Olsen, Brandon Lafell, Ted Ginn, DeAngelo Williams over Eli Manning, Victor Cruz, Hakeem Nicks, Ruben Randle, Brandon Myers, David Wilson...welp...then you're outta you're quacking mind.